introducing the Mercenary Camp...

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September 8th, 2015
Freyrix

introducing the Mercenary Camp...
Hello, Clashers!

I know there have been several ideas about Mercenaries before, but -as far as I know- this one's different. Most of the others introduced new Troops and/or were ment to recover own surviving Troops. Please hear me out first, and comment below!

When a battle ends in a 3 star victory (or if the attacker ends it before his troops are killed), the remaining troops now burst in to some kind of purplish bubbles... What a waste!

I suggest they come together at an empty spot on the map and set up a camp, the Mercenary Camp. This would mean, if the defendant comes back online, there is a 'new' building on his map, containing the surviving troops of his last attacker.
Only one Mercenary Camp can exist on the map. If a player is 3-starred several times, the existing camp disappears and a new one is erected. An unsuccesful attack (less than 3 stars) leaves the existing Mercenary Camp as is.
The Mercenary Camp could only appear if the attacker is TH5 or higher.

The Camp site
The Camp itself would be a 3x3 area, with a little campfire in the left corner. It has no Hitpoints and does not need to be destroyed to get a 3 star victory. Its capacity would be linked to the attackers TH-level:
- TH5: 5 spaces
- TH6: 8 spaces
- TH7: 12 spaces
- TH8: 16 spaces (instead of 17)
- TH9: 20 spaces (instead of 21)
- TH10: 23 spaces (instead of 24)
The limited space immediately has a consequence for the available Mercenaries. P.E.K.K.A., Golem and Lavahound are excluded by default.

Using the Mercenaries
When you go to battle, the available Mercenaries line up next to your own Troops. However, it costs gold to deploy them. And they want to be paid in advance. That means you can only deploy your Mercenaries if your own Troops have collected enough loot Gold from the base you're attacking. The cost is immediately subtracted from your collected loot. If you don't have enough loot, the Mercenaries are greyed out (like used Troops are).

I suggest the cost could be 40% of the training cost for regular troops, but in Gold. Some examples:
- Barbarian lvl 4 (100E to train) cost 40 Gold as Mercenary
- Wizard lvl 5 (3,500E to train) cost 1,400 Gold as Mercenary
- Dragon lvl 3 (33,000E to train) cost 13,200 Gold as Mercenary
For Dark Troops, there needs to be a converter, since Dark Elixir is much more precious than regular Elixir. To use Dark Mercenaries, you need to pay 40% of their training cost in Gold, multiplied by 150. Some examples:
- Hog Rider lvl 2 (45DE to train) cost 2,700 Gold as Mercenary
- Witch lvl 1 (250DE to train) cost 15,000 Gold as Mercenary
Miscellaneous
- Mercenaries do not participate in Clan Wars.
- Mercenaries do not defend your homebase.
- The Mercenary Camp can not be moved.
- The Mercenary Camp can be removed by a builder (cost 17500E, 20min, no Gem-bonus).
- Mercenaries are impatient. They will break up Camp if not used within 48 to 72 hours after it was built.
Interesting Thoughts
In this section I'll be adding some ideas that were inspired by others, who replied in this thread. I'm not really convinced these ideas should be implied to the Mercenary Camp, but they might be, to balance out the concept.
- Only allow Troops with a healthlevel of 50% or more (at the end of a battle) in the Mercenary Camp.
- Place the Mercenary Camp 'off grid' (at the 'path' into the forest on the upper left side of the Village, for example), because some base designs have no available area to place a 3x3 building.
- For extra Gold, Mercenaries are more ferocious. Pay again (same price as stated under Using the Mercenaries) and get 7 sec of Rage! Similar action as BK-Ability: After Mercenaries are deployed, the Rage can be activated, the cost is subtracted from the loot.
I tried to keep the numbers (Camp housing space and Mercenary cost) balanced, trying not to overpower or overprice the concept. That doesn't mean these numbers won't need any tweaking, if my idea gets through to the devs.
I hope you can appreciate my idea, and I'm open to any comments. Just be constructive, as we all know it's easy to be blunt.

Special thanks to Gam069.

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Adjusted housing space to avoid room for two Witches.
Added Golem to the list of excluded Troops (due to required housing space).
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September 9th, 2015
Freyrix

Really? No one has anything to say... :confused:
September 9th, 2015
F34R991

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Originally Posted by Freyrix

Really? No one has anything to say... :confused:

Maybe because it doesn't appeal to people?

This will cause problems, how will the camp spawn if there is no space on the map for it? Many people have bases that leave little space for a 3x3 building. It is also OP, no need for more troop space
September 9th, 2015
herranton

I think that for the average clasher, this would be fine, but it would wreak havoc in titan and legend leagues. It would also make pushing a lot easier. The idea seems to take into account balancing for resources, but not balancing for trophies.
September 9th, 2015
Freyrix

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Originally Posted by herranton

I think that for the average clasher, this would be fine, but it would wreak havoc in titan and legend leagues. It would also make pushing a lot easier. The idea seems to take into account balancing for resources, but not balancing for trophies.

Why would it wreak havoc in Titan and Legend Leagues? Due to the limited space (even for TH10: 23 housing space) the Mercenary Camp can never house the most powerful troops. As I said, P.E.K.K.A. (25 housing space) and Lavahound (30 housing space) are excluded by default. I just realize I have to add Golem (30 housing space) to that list... Therefore Dragon and Witch are the most powerful Troops to fit the Mercenary Camp. We all know Dragons are quite useless beyond mid-TH8 and Witches aren't that strong (75-100 Hitpoints).

I'm pretty sure the impact on trophies would be quite minimal, because any trophies gained by deploying Mercenaries (and getting 3 stars instead of 1 or 2) are just as easily lost by getting 3-starred by someone else using his Mercenaries. In the long run, I assume it will turn out break-even...

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Adjusted housing space for TH10 Mercenary Camp.
September 9th, 2015
0jij0

I haven't like the idea maybe for a game other than coc it will be nice but not for clash of clans
September 9th, 2015
frenchytheginger

I like it!
September 9th, 2015
herranton

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Originally Posted by Freyrix

Why would it wreak havoc in Titan and Legend Leagues? Due to the limited space (even for TH10: 23 housing space) the Mercenary Camp can never house the most powerful troops. As I said, P.E.K.K.A. (25 housing space) and Lavahound (30 housing space) are excluded by default. I just realize I have to add Golem (30 housing space) to that list... Therefore Dragon and Witch are the most powerful Troops to fit the Mercenary Camp. We all know Dragons are quite useless beyond mid-TH8 and Witches aren't that strong (75-100 Hitpoints).

I'm pretty sure the impact on trophies would be quite minimal, because any trophies gained by deploying Mercenaries (and getting 3 stars instead of 1 or 2) are just as easily lost by getting 3-starred by someone else using his Mercenaries. In the long run, I assume it will turn out break-even...

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Adjusted housing space for TH10 Mercenary Camp.

Because it is an extra 4 loons. That is huge dps. And can make a big difference between a 2 star and an easy 3 star.
September 10th, 2015
Freyrix

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Originally Posted by herranton

Because it is an extra 4 loons. That is huge dps. And can make a big difference between a 2 star and an easy 3 star.

You're right, it's an extra 4 Balloons... if you're lucky enough to get 4 'Loons in your Mercenary Camp, that is.

However, those 4 extra 'Loons making the difference between 2 and 3 stars, implies at least one of those Balloons would survive battle and end up in the Mercenary Camp in your village... giving you the advantage in your next attack. Which might be a revenge-attack in which you use the defenders own Troops against him!
September 10th, 2015
Antdroid

Lower the Housing Space a bit... It's an ok idea.....
September 10th, 2015
Freyrix

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Originally Posted by Antdroid

Lower the Housing Space a bit... It's an ok idea.....

I've already lowered the Housing Space to avoid two Witches as Mercenaries. There will probably always be a reason to fiddle with the numbers, so I'm gonna leave it as is... I'll leave the finetuning to the devs, if they decide to give my idea a closer look.

But I'm glad you like my idea!
September 10th, 2015
Gam069

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Originally Posted by Freyrix

I've already lowered the Housing Space to avoid two Witches as Mercenaries. There will probably always be a reason to fiddle with the numbers, so I'm gonna leave it as is... I'll leave the finetuning to the devs, if they decide to give my idea a closer look.

But I'm glad you like my idea!

Well said! I think you're on the right track here!

Using the mercenaries should be a reward/ benefit if you've earned the right to use them and it may aid you to a 3-star but it could be the difference between zero and one.

Thanks for the honorable mention ha-ha
September 10th, 2015
HungryHungryHippo

I like the concept, but wonder if there really is a need for this. It sounds like a nice bonus reward for hitting that 3 star attack, but next to the normal loot, bonus loot and cups it might be a bit too much extra for that victory. I like the fact that those troops get a second purpise, but through efficiënt placement you might be able to reserve those troops already. And besides that, the troops are not wasted in my opinion. They dealt damage to buildings and structures to give you that 3 star in the first place so they did what they were trained for, this might cause many people to just overkill their targets on every attack. Nevertheless, i like the concept of mercenaries, just dont think those mercenaries should be the excessive troops from previous attack.
September 10th, 2015
BarchTheDeco

Good idea

But it needs less housing space come on! Do u have to check clan castle and mercenary camp for dragons I suggest 20 for town hall 10
September 11th, 2015
Freyrix

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Originally Posted by HungryHungryHippo

I like the concept, but wonder if there really is a need for this. It sounds like a nice bonus reward for hitting that 3 star attack, but next to the normal loot, bonus loot and cups it might be a bit too much extra for that victory. I like the fact that those troops get a second purpise, but through efficiënt placement you might be able to reserve those troops already. And besides that, the troops are not wasted in my opinion. They dealt damage to buildings and structures to give you that 3 star in the first place so they did what they were trained for, this might cause many people to just overkill their targets on every attack. Nevertheless, i like the concept of mercenaries, just dont think those mercenaries should be the excessive troops from previous attack.

It's not really a bonus for hitting a 3-star attack. It's more like a consolation prize for getting 3-starred by another player. It's not the attacker who recovers a few of his surviving Troops, it's the defender who gets the Mercenary Camp. It seems to me you got it wrong. Overkill would only make your opponent stronger and give him the opportunity to use your own (surviving) Troops in a revenge-attack. Therefore, I'm convinced my Mercenary Camp will reduce overkill-attacks...

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Originally Posted by BarchTheDeco

But it needs less housing space come on! Do u have to check clan castle and mercenary camp for dragons I suggest 20 for town hall 10

What do you mean? I thought I clearly stated that the Troops in the Mercenary Camp do not go to Clan Wars, nor do they defend your Village. So, as an attacker, you do not have to lure the Mercenary Camp. You don't even have to destroy it to get a 3-star victory. In fact, it can be considered an Obstacle, like trees and stones are...
September 11th, 2015
BarchTheDeco

If supercell added mercenary camp that troop camps lv will be upgraded so mehhh but it also troops u got from 3 star must be have 50% of its health
September 11th, 2015
Freyrix

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Originally Posted by BarchTheDeco

If supercell added mercenary camp that troop camps lv will be upgraded so mehhh but it also troops u got from 3 star must be have 50% of its health

I'm sorry, but are you using a translator of some sort?

The only thing I understand is that you suggest only Troops with a healthlevel of 50% or more should go to the Mercenary Camp. That's actually an interesting thought... I'll add it to a new section (Interesting Thoughts) of the first post in this thread!
September 15th, 2015
Freyrix

Added another 'Interesting Thought'...
September 15th, 2015
Jmcmi47

Seems like a good idea, although i havent been on here for a while it seems original. Wouldnt mind it
September 16th, 2015
Freyrix

I've added a third 'Interesting Thougt'.