Poison Spell Modifications - Damage Based on Troops' Total Health

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

I reviewed it and this is even worse than it was before.

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I understand what you're saying but in my opinion it shouldn't take one spell (even if it's upgraded) to completely kill a bunch of troops, as I think that eliminates strategy.

I also see what you're saying about it only taking two spells to destroy high hitpoint troops - I have changed it to smaller damage increments depending on level, but making it do 3x damage to weak troops.

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Originally Posted by Deadtoast15

I agree with this idea. In the past 10 wars I have encountered one clan castle with wizards and witches in it. That is 20 bases. The rest had dragons and one had a lava hound. Way too predictable now.

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Thanks :) I honestly think this would be a great addition to the game. Of course, why wouldn't I, I suggested it :smirk:

I like the idea, but hate itas well. I agree with what the "super long post" said. Hoggers use poison to kill Larrys chasing the hogs. I don't use Hogs but I know that poison has helped fight Larrys along the way. I think what needs to be done is to add a change in the CC Deployment of troops. It should deploy a couple at a time to different sides of the map. That is what will help bring a real diversity to CC troops plus it would take away using one hog to lure ALL troops out. It would also of course make players use more than one poison or really try to "lure" troops out. Just my honest opinion.

I primarily support this idea because of the fact that it could bring back a more diversified set of Clan Castle Troops. The Poison Spell currently forces us to bring a more stable troop to survive the effects of a Poison Spell, and I feel killing troops with a spell is a bit too easy. Your idea of the Poison spell would be to either almost kill or barely kill enemy troops, and I think that may be just what we need.

Bad idea the poison spell will be useless

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Lol alright I have read the whole thing now :smirk:

Poison Spell still has the slow down affect, so it won't be useless against skeleton traps.

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I'd say that, giving that the only point of the poison spell at that point would be to slow down troops, you'd be making it a useless spell to make- an anti-haste in that case... For a hog raid, slowing down skellies only works for the briefest moment before the Hogs stop at a defense. And instead of bringing a poison spell in that case, it'd be more useful to bring a haste spell then, because it actually speed up your attack and overall dps as opposed to slowing down skelly traps.

So, in that respect alone, you're killing the variability of uses for the poison spell, forcing them to only be used for the CC troops alone.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

And archers can't kill units in one shot, so this will help with that.

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And, in respect to the purpose I'd look at the poison spell for being used in Wars, No one ever brings Archers in wars, apart than to pick off surrounding buildings for percentage. But you'll rarely, if ever, see anyone spread archers behind their golems in a GoWiPe (GoArPe) attack... It's nonsensical to not bring your best for War... So I ask you again, what possible point would there to be to have a Witch at 10% total health getting shot by a Wizard as opposed to a 100% health Witch getting hit by a Wizard? What this does is put a serious damper on high HP CC troops, completely eliminating them from War CCs since poison would essentially do nothing to Witches and Wizards... SO instead of creating more variability in War CCs, you'd be narrowing it down to worse than it was before with having Witch-Wiz based CCs.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Also, the spell will act like a normal spell at levels 3-4 to add a bit more strategy into the game (decide what you should put in your clan castle, as attacker might not bring a level 3 or 4 poison spell :))

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Me, being a Max TH9 see nearly every one of my War Targets with Max Troops and Spells, which Max TH9 spell is Lv3. And in Multi, I only ever get hit by Th10s, meaning that I'm completely screwed no matter what, unless someone is attacking me way above their level. Essentially, what you're saying is that Everyone at the TH9 to TH10 Level should not have Dragons, Hounds, Loons, Valks, etc in their CCs, because three spells will take it out of the sky with Spells alone. And Even some higher Level TH8s should be weary of being attacked by an opponent with Lv3 Poison, because in Wars, some Top TH8s won't be closed by another TH8, but rather by a TH9, if their base design held up particularly well.

Overall, I'd say that the Percentage idea is severely flawed. And it is in fact perfectly fine the way it is...

Although this all sounds great, I think this would be too much like the earthquake spell.

I disagree, it would make the spell pretty much useless if it doesn't instantly kill low HP troops. I'd never make it again and go back to taking lightning...which lowers my offensive potential.

Lowering offensive potential, especially for TH10 is not a good thing.

This is one of the few time where I think you are wrong Anthony.
Cc troops were pretty OP before the update. Lots of people agree with me. This makes the poison spell pretty much useles. I would never use it anymore. It's like dropping two lightning spells on an air defense. Sure it weakens it, but it can still shoot down your troops and it's a waste. Keep it the way it is please.

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Originally Posted by Nolanvw

This is one of the few time where I think you are wrong Anthony.

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I was thinking that myself, I'm a huge fan of his ideas most of the time. But not on this occasion.

A return of a Witch/Wizard/Archer CC is just bad news for all attackers.