People hating on clash ideas for no reason!!

Im not going to point out who but I have noticed many people on the ideas subforum that are hating on threads that make sense. And no I'm not paranoid, but it seems as if they enjoy making people feel bad. They will say something bad about an idea even if they already answered it in the thread. Its as if they are too lazy to read the whole thing and they just want to troll people. I looked at the profile of the person who I've witnessed doing this a lot and almost every single one of his replys were negative even too perfectly legit ideas! Anyone else witnessed this?

AND NOTE THESE ARE COMPLETELY ORIGINAL IDEAS IM TALKING ABOUT!

I've seen some people be a little sharper than is necessary, but it's also really annoying when people either don't read the stickies, don't search, or don't even bother to use proper spelling and grammar to make their threads easy to read... I'm not saying hating on ideas is justified, it's just understandable because it gets really frustrating to see the same tired old ideas again and again.

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Originally Posted by FlyAutumn

I've seen some people be a little sharper than is necessary, but it's also really annoying when people either don't read the stickies, don't search, or don't even bother to use proper spelling and grammar to make their threads easy to read... I'm not saying hating on ideas is justified, it's just understandable because it gets really frustrating to see the same tired old ideas again and again.

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Yes I completely agree with you and I find it soo annoying seeing those threads, but from what I've seen it is just wrong. Claiming something is OP even if its fine, saying "supercell wont waste their time on this its too lame", saying "no one else will like it you're just posting on the forums for your selfish needs", or just saying "bad idea" without giving any advice.

Maybe because people are tired of seeing the same ideas over, and over and over again, usually posted in the wrong forum as a bonus.

It does make me cringe sometimes, I know the (usually) more experiennced person has probably seen 100 other "donate resources to clan mates" threads before - but we often need to be friendlier, often people mean wel, just arn't that used to the forum...we do have a lot of content on here.

i sometimes wish people would write the reply they want to give, don't hit save, go away have a glass of water and then re-read as if someone were saying that to them, and edit if necessary.

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Originally Posted by Snarg

Maybe because people are tired of seeing the same ideas over, and over and over again, usually posted in the wrong forum as a bonus.

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This^^^

I find this forum to be frustrating. It's difficult to spend any amount of time on it at all and not succumb to the temptation to start telling fresh spawn that they didn't read the stickies etc.

Question: Why the problem with this forum so much??
Answer: Because feature requests and ideas belong in a bug tracker, not a forum. Tools like marking features as acknowledged, duplicates, resolved, etc etc just don't work well in a forum setting.

I feel like this thread is about me...

Now, as someone who can be viewed as "Sharper" than most people, I would like to state that most of the times, when I'm being "sharp" It's either because A. You can't read stickies, B. You can't use a search function (Granted, the search here is pretty bad.) or C. It's a good idea, but there are some problems with it. I tend to TRY to find these problems, so these ideas get fixed, and possibly added.

Of course, there are always trolls, but, just wanted to give the awesome guys side of the story! :cool:

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Originally Posted by Theking8133

I feel like this thread is about me...

Now, as someone who can be viewed as "Sharper" than most people, I would like to state that most of the times, when I'm being "sharp" It's either because A. You can't read stickies, B. You can't use a search function (Granted, the search here is pretty bad.) or C. It's a good idea, but there are some problems with it. I tend to TRY to find these problems, so these ideas get fixed, and possibly added.

Of course, there are always trolls, but, just wanted to give the awesome guys side of the story! :cool:

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Lol, no this thread isnt about you! Its pointless negativity that's the problem rather than constructive criticism.

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Originally Posted by Daddy

It does make me cringe sometimes, I know the (usually) more experiennced person has probably seen 100 other "donate resources to clan mates" threads before - but we often need to be friendlier, often people mean wel, just arn't that used to the forum...we do have a lot of content on here.

i sometimes wish people would write the reply they want to give, don't hit save, go away have a glass of water and then re-read as if someone were saying that to them, and edit if necessary.

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I honestly don't know how you and the other mods do it. If I had to mod this place for 6 months or stay at Chernobyl for a year, I'm packing my bags. Chernobyl is less toxic.

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Originally Posted by IronSoldier73

Im not going to point out who but I have noticed many people on the ideas subforum that are hating on threads that make sense. And no I'm not paranoid, but it seems as if they enjoy making people feel bad. They will say something bad about an idea even if they already answered it in the thread. Its as if they are too lazy to read the whole thing and they just want to troll people. I looked at the profile of the person who I've witnessed doing this a lot and almost every single one of his replys were negative even too perfectly legit ideas! Anyone else witnessed this?

AND NOTE THESE ARE COMPLETELY ORIGINAL IDEAS IM TALKING ABOUT!

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Yeah, there are a lot of trolls and haters on the forum website, not too long ago I ran into one with one of my ideas, the dude was just being a jerk and completely rude, not going to mention the name though.

People get sharp when someone keeps backing up they're idea even though its ♥♥♥♥. (Not pointing at people)

If someone is new to the fourms they'll let it slide, but if they already know, the community will probably give them ♥♥♥♥.

I've noticed one person in particular who hates all but one idea that I know of. It's really annoying that some people just don't like any ideas!

I think the worst are people that object to simple ideas that don't have any effect on gameplay (e.g. show who donated troops or show the most recent clan of a person requesting to join) and that is often accompanied by what is BY FAR the stupidest advice ever given on a forum in the history of forums "well just don't invite those kind of people into your clan in the first place."

In short, if an idea will harm the gameplay then by all means object. But if you just want to give pedantic advice and tell other people what information they don't really need, then stick a fork in it.

Stop hating on the haters! That's just so racist!

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Originally Posted by thecoolkyle

Stop hating on the haters! That's just so racist!

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This comment made me chuckle

Yeah, it does happen in here a bit unfortunately.

Some members have just the same seen ideas, of variants of the same idea so many times they have lost count of them and are losing patience seeing them time and time again. Unless the idea is really original and well presented they often don't get a lot of love. Simply due to the volume of ideas that pour into here.

All I can say is if you have an idea for the game, try bring something new to the table. And put some thought and effort into the idea. Not just a one or two line sentence. Explain why you think the idea will benefit the game. Consider what potential consequences it may have.

While those who respond need to try be more respectful replying...or just don't reply at all.

Is it hating To strongly suggest changes to a concept or idea about something you see as either op or flawed in some way? I would think/hope doing so is an attempt at constructive criticism and not hating.... because if it's hating I guess I could be guilty of that lol.

We could all strive to be a little more tactful towards each other I suppose, but I think it's also important for ppl to recognize the difference between when someone is trying to help them as opposed to just putting them down.

Unless you're on here just to troll I think most forumers/forumites/forumians/etc want to keep the experience fun and respectful for each other

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Originally Posted by Asmdus88

Is it hating To strongly suggest changes to a concept or idea about something you see as either op or flawed in some way? I would think/hope doing so is an attempt at constructive criticism and not hating.... because if it's hating I guess I could be guilty of that lol.

We could all strive to be a little more tactful towards each other I suppose, but I think it's also important for ppl to recognize the difference between when someone is trying to help them as opposed to just putting them down.

Unless you're on here just to troll I think most forumers/forumites/forumians/etc want to keep the experience fun and respectful for each other

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Yep, it goes both ways indeed.

I have at times seen members get terribly defensive to negative feedback over an idea they have put up. Even in cases where the negative feedback is posted in a helpful, constructive manner.

Just remember we all want to make the game better, we just have different thoughts on how to achieve that.

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Originally Posted by daz258

Yep, it goes both ways indeed.

I have at times seen members get terribly defensive to negative feedback over an idea they have put up. Even in cases where the negative feedback is posted in a helpful, constructive manner.

Just remember we all want to make the game better, we just have different thoughts on how to achieve that.

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Truth.

Ultimately we're all on here because we all enjoy clash lol, and whatever good ideas that get added into the game are a benefit to all of us not just any one individual.

I think as a given we should try to recognize we're really all on the same team here when we share ideas..... If there's a kind of consesus of that then people wouldn't have any motivation to "hate" on other ideas, or take other people's criticism as hate

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Originally Posted by Kenchafer

I honestly don't know how you and the other mods do it. If I had to mod this place for 6 months or stay at Chernobyl for a year, I'm packing my bags. Chernobyl is less toxic.

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:thumbsup: Good one.
Personally, I usually give constructive critisim, unless the idea is beyond bad, not ruin the game bad, but so bad this guy is trolling bad.

I know who this thread is about... Mwahahaha...

I remember my experience with a troll hater on one of my ideas, a Mod had to actually remove the posts because the person was throwing insults at me. That person is now banned, and will remain banned. I understand a little bit of CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISCM, but not INSULTS! Insulting someone is against the Forum Guidelines. Us people did not sign up for personal attacks, yes, there will be constructive criticism, but it should not be to the point where the person feels bad about themselves. So that's my input on this whole "hating" controversy.

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Originally Posted by ClashOn4Life

People get sharp when someone keeps backing up they're idea even though its ♥♥♥♥. (Not pointing at people)

If someone is new to the fourms they'll let it slide, but if they already know, the community will probably give them ♥♥♥♥.

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It can be "♥♥♥♥" in your eyes, and it can be the "best idea ever" in someone elses eyes. So it really depends on the person, and what they think of the idea. Now with that being said, it does not give the opposing team the right to hate on the other side vice-versa.

Playing clash do have some effect on players, predominantly the aspect of the game. Loot hard to find, clouds, 1-3 cups offers in higher leagues, can't revenge, losing resources once offline, can't use heroes in war, unfair war match-ups, train/build times takes too long, AI of troops and so many other factors which leads to negativity.

Fix the issues at hand. Have the game running smoothly and you'll end up with alot of happy players. Having happy players, will, in turn, have positive feedbacks, comments and discussions.

The way I see it now, why suggest something new when the old hasn't been fixed?

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Originally Posted by LemoneyFresh937

I know who this thread is about... Mwahahaha...

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Yeah please soften up a bit. You're being pretty insulting to people. Also, could you please read through the stickies and double check that the idea you are replying to is ruled out. Sometimes you do that to perfectly legit threads, confusing the OP.

Maybe they are hating on ideas because said ideas are bad

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

Maybe they are hating on ideas because said ideas are bad

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It still does not entitle the opposing team to "hate on" people.

If you feel it alters gameplay in a negative way, then I think it's fair game to shoot it down. Protect the game from bad ideas at all costs. If it's especially harmful to the game, then be as sharp as you want.

If it's ruled out and you aren't a mod, just leave it. Why bump the ruled out threads perpetually?

If the idea is completely benign, for example, "show who donated to war clan castle", and you don't like it, then it's better to shut that face up than to tell other people how they don't need it and how superior you are at running your clan.

If you aren't a SuperCell developer then keep your opinions on technical things like overloading servers and "requires code" (dumbest objection ever to an idea btw - all idea requires code), then again shut that face up. Nothing reveals ignorance faster than movie-script technobabble.