Poison spell wasn't a great idea?

Witches in CC made my war attacks random even on the same base. Bringing a lightning to kill the witch was a big waste of spell place.

The poison gave me a regular way of dealing with the war CC.

But I admit, dragon became the norm. Especially with the new level 5 dragons. Dealing with a level 4 dragon was a breeze. but the level 5 is much harder to kill.

I agree we need a new long range troop to put in the CC. Something that can survive a maxed poison and still hide behind walls while hitting golems, loons and pekkas.

I think poison has its place. It's just the troops that nee to get better. Level 7 wiz somebody?

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Originally Posted by cnaf

Lets not forget the elixir for walls beauty. Again, Law of Unintended Consequences had a field day with that one...

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Ha ha yeah. I remember before that came out but after it was announced in the sneak peaks, I (and a few others) spent days arguing with people on the forums telling them how it would make the CoC economy worse that it already was (and it was terrible at that point). They kept telling me that it would be fine and that the devs would have done extensive calculations first before introducing it to make sure it worked...

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Originally Posted by powercage

Poison spell was probably the single worst addition to the game in any update. They clearly didnt think it through.

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I can't really disagree with this. An update that managed to remove some of the skill from the game and some of the variety for no gain.

And which also made any multi-player base raidable - I used to avoid a few good, unlurable, bases when looting in multiplayer (TH9 vs TH9) as too risky/not worth the effort. Once I had poison, I barely looked at the base - simply nexted until I found the desired amount of loot and attacked. The best or most stupid bases all gave up their loot equally.

One of the problems is the strength of the poison - killing max barb/arch/gob/wiz/witch/min even at level 1 just seems a bit silly. If it could only barely kill wiz/witch when fully upgraded, that might have worked better. Or if the slowing effect was stronger, but it couldnt kill wiz/witch outright.

they will probably make it take up 2 spell slots to balance

SC took a huge shot at skill with the poison spell.

No longer do you need to have any skill in drawing and killing CC witches and wizards. That's too hard /whiney kid voice. Easy button to the rescue!

Yes poison was a terrible idea, especially lvl1 killing max wizards and witches in one shot.

I don't think SC has many options on how to fix this problem.

I don't think they will remove it unfortunately, and I also don't think they will adjust the damage so it can't kill witches, wizards.. Etc, because the spell would be no longer useful.

I think their best option as a couple of people pointed out is to add a new troop that is ranged and can't be killed by the poison..

Hopefully SC will figure it out soon.

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Originally Posted by OnyxDS

I can't really disagree with this. An update that managed to remove some of the skill from the game and some of the variety for no gain.

And which also made any multi-player base raidable - I used to avoid a few good, unlurable, bases when looting in multiplayer (TH9 vs TH9) as too risky/not worth the effort. Once I had poison, I barely looked at the base - simply nexted until I found the desired amount of loot and attacked. The best or most stupid bases all gave up their loot equally.

One of the problems is the strength of the poison - killing max barb/arch/gob/wiz/witch/min even at level 1 just seems a bit silly. If it could only barely kill wiz/witch when fully upgraded, that might have worked better. Or if the slowing effect was stronger, but it couldnt kill wiz/witch outright.

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Yea, it basically ruined various aspects of the game. It in no way added to the game either. Shame


Even max TH10s are pretty much a guaranteed two star now.



What they need to do is turn poison into a Hero specific weapon and make it weak against everything else.


Or delete it from the game entirely and disavow any knowledge of it ever existing

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Originally Posted by blackcollector

Witches in CC made my war attacks random even on the same base. Bringing a lightning to kill the witch was a big waste of spell place.

The poison gave me a regular way of dealing with the war CC.

But I admit, dragon became the norm. Especially with the new level 5 dragons. Dealing with a level 4 dragon was a breeze. but the level 5 is much harder to kill.

I agree we need a new long range troop to put in the CC. Something that can survive a maxed poison and still hide behind walls while hitting golems, loons and pekkas.

I think poison has its place. It's just the troops that nee to get better. Level 7 wiz somebody?

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I do remember other saying about witches and max wizard along with a CC that was hard to lure creating a major problem for war attacks. You absolutely had to bring special troops and a lighting spell just to get those troops out and deal with them or your war attack would fail.

For me i would rather deal with a dragon or Lava Hound than a witch/max wizard.

In my opinion witches and wizards were OP as defensive ccs troops, before the poison spell. Not impossible obviously, just annoying hard to take out. I mean really if when im attacking a maxed base, I'm still only worried about the cc there's a problem. I'm glad they fixed the problem.

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Originally Posted by blackcollector

Witches in CC made my war attacks random even on the same base. Bringing a lightning to kill the witch was a big waste of spell place.

The poison gave me a regular way of dealing with the war CC.

But I admit, dragon became the norm. Especially with the new level 5 dragons. Dealing with a level 4 dragon was a breeze. but the level 5 is much harder to kill.

I agree we need a new long range troop to put in the CC. Something that can survive a maxed poison and still hide behind walls while hitting golems, loons and pekkas.

I think poison has its place. It's just the troops that nee to get better. Level 7 wiz somebody?

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Even a level 7 wizard would be easy to poison.

Right now a max wizard has 164 hit points. Clearly, even if there was for some (no good) reason, a higher level wizard released, you obviously couldn't add a whole lot of hit points to the current 164 or it would be very imbalanced.

lvl1 poison does 270 damage. 270. That is way above anything a wizard could ever be.

You really need to put some actual thought into your ideas.

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Originally Posted by troydaboy420

In my opinion witches and wizards were OP as defensive ccs troops, before the poison spell. Not impossible obviously, just annoying hard to take out. I mean really if when im attacking a maxed base, I'm still only worried about the cc there's a problem. I'm glad they fixed the problem.

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God forbid the defending CC by annoying to take out. We can't have that!

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Originally Posted by VecTor622

I do remember other saying about witches and max wizard along with a CC that was hard to lure creating a major problem for war attacks. You absolutely had to bring special troops and a lighting spell just to get those troops out and deal with them or your war attack would fail.

For me i would rather deal with a dragon or Lava Hound than a witch/max wizard.

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Yes most people would rather deal with easier CC troops. Those good CC troops are just too hard, and this game is supposed to be easy.