War Preperation Overhaul

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

It's not needed...you want it, mainly so you can war more often for more XP and loot, that much is clear. I don't see it happening though for reasons mentioned above.


As for the rest it, I do like the idea of win streaks...it's something I'd like to see as a stat for sure, and some sort of bonus/reward would be nice, but 1.5x is way too much.

If it is XP for every consecutive win beyond 3, I would give like 25 additional XP for winning the 3rd consecutive war, or maybe even only 10, with 25 when you get to 5 consecutive. At 10 wars I'd bump it to 50, maybe 75 at 15, and a max of 100 additional XP at 20+.

If it is a single milestone that you only get once, like a clan achievement, you could bump it up some. 50XP for 3 wins, 100XP for 6, and 250XP for 10.

I actually thought of this a while ago though, and I think rather than XP, it should be a loot bonus. +5% war win bonus for win streak of 3 or more. +10% at 5 wins, +15% at 10 wins, +20% at 20 wins or more. Of course, this was an idea I had before clan perks came out, so I'm not sure about it now because clans perks already give added war loot bonus.

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This is an awesome idea, i see where you got the name from =P

I would rather go for XP bonusses on winningstreaks rather than loot bonusses, mainly because XP affects all members of the clan, and a loot bonus would only affect the players that were selected in the most recent war. That could cause frustrations with the people that did participate in the first 3 but had to go red on the #4 and #5.
those player will feel duped as they did their share, but wont get any reward.

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Originally Posted by btcc1721

This is frequently bought up, and will never happen:


1. Most big international clans need 24 hours to fill war cc's and prepare etc..

2. Wars give big payouts, which means players buy less gems losing SC money. Decreasing the amount of time over which war takes place will seriously hurt SC's coffers.

Along with a host of other, small reasons.

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Just thought I'd provide a couple of counter arguments.

1. But not all international clans need all that time. A "we're ready" button would be nice. Take the time if you need it. If both clans are ready move on. We have 50 international members and rarely it takes very long to fill the clan castles. In no way does this provide advantage to some clans over others. Every clan would have the same opportunity to prepare faster if they wanted to war more. So some fast clans would get XP faster when they pair with other fast clans you say? Well, that's probably true but it's already true that some clans are faster than others. Since there is no monetary bonus really for leveling up your clan it seems that shouldn't be that big of a consideration.

2. I'm a TH9 and I get around 320k bonus gold/elixer for a war win. It takes 48 hours to do that with a war. I can do two or three attacks in a few hours and get more than the war bonus. It's more reliable too... we might not win the war but I can pretty reliably raise loot attacking. Further, to get the war win, I have to use more expensive troops. Likely if I decide to resort to barching, I can do just as well.. and then even faster.

If anything, warring faster is likely to make some players gem more.

You're probably right that there are many other small reasons. But are they actually just small personal preferences?

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Originally Posted by dennisjm

Just thought I'd provide a couple of counter arguments.

1. But not all international clans need all that time. A "we're ready" button would be nice. Take the time if you need it. If both clans are ready move on. We have 50 international members and rarely it takes very long to fill the clan castles. In no way does this provide advantage to some clans over others. Every clan would have the same opportunity to prepare faster if they wanted to war more. So some fast clans would get XP faster when they pair with other fast clans you say? Well, that's probably true but it's already true that some clans are faster than others. Since there is no monetary bonus really for leveling up your clan it seems that shouldn't be that big of a consideration.

2. I'm a TH9 and I get around 320k bonus gold/elixer for a war win. It takes 48 hours to do that with a war. I can do two or three attacks in a few hours and get more than the war bonus. It's more reliable too... we might not win the war but I can pretty reliably raise loot attacking. Further, to get the war win, I have to use more expensive troops. Likely if I decide to resort to barching, I can do just as well.. and then even faster.

If anything, warring faster is likely to make some players gem more.

You're probably right that there are many other small reasons. But are they actually just small personal preferences?

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Wait what? 320K bonus gold/elixer for both attacks? maybe it's just me but issn't that a bit low?
I'm a beginning TH9 and i get like 440K for each target, so at the end of the war we're talking about +- 880K gold/elix. That's a huge diff =/

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Originally Posted by HungryHungryHippo

This is an awesome idea, i see where you got the name from =P

I would rather go for XP bonusses on winningstreaks rather than loot bonusses, mainly because XP affects all members of the clan, and a loot bonus would only affect the players that were selected in the most recent war. That could cause frustrations with the people that did participate in the first 3 but had to go red on the #4 and #5.
those player will feel duped as they did their share, but wont get any reward.

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The name actually came from the mistake of letting my gf's 11 year old name the account (which is also why it's spelled wrong since he typed it in). ;)

I see where you're coming from, and maybe XP would be the way to go since like I said there's already loot bonuses in clan perks. If it was loot it might encourage more people to participate, but I don't think it would be too frustrating either...it's not a huge bonus, and you wouldn't want to jeopardize the win streak.

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Originally Posted by HungryHungryHippo

Wait what? 320K bonus gold/elixer for both attacks? maybe it's just me but issn't that a bit low?
I'm a beginning TH9 and i get like 440K for each target, so at the end of the war we're talking about +- 880K gold/elix. That's a huge diff =/

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No I was referring to just one attack. Yes some are 400k, depends on how high you attack. That's all nit picking details though. The point is I can still raise more loot in a few hours normal raiding that I can in 48 hours of war. You can too :)

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Originally Posted by dennisjm

No I was referring to just one attack. Yes some are 400k, depends on how high you attack. That's all nit picking details though. The point is I can still raise more loot in a few hours normal raiding that I can in 48 hours of war. You can too :)

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Haha ooh trust me....i do ;)

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Originally Posted by dennisjm

Just thought I'd provide a couple of counter arguments.

1. But not all international clans need all that time. A "we're ready" button would be nice. Take the time if you need it. If both clans are ready move on. We have 50 international members and rarely it takes very long to fill the clan castles. In no way does this provide advantage to some clans over others. Every clan would have the same opportunity to prepare faster if they wanted to war more. So some fast clans would get XP faster when they pair with other fast clans you say? Well, that's probably true but it's already true that some clans are faster than others. Since there is no monetary bonus really for leveling up your clan it seems that shouldn't be that big of a consideration.

2. I'm a TH9 and I get around 320k bonus gold/elixer for a war win. It takes 48 hours to do that with a war. I can do two or three attacks in a few hours and get more than the war bonus. It's more reliable too... we might not win the war but I can pretty reliably raise loot attacking. Further, to get the war win, I have to use more expensive troops. Likely if I decide to resort to barching, I can do just as well.. and then even faster.

If anything, warring faster is likely to make some players gem more.

You're probably right that there are many other small reasons. But are they actually just small personal preferences?

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1. Dependent on war matchup in terms of time for preparation. The we're ready button would work if it was 24h + prep day time remaining. It would require a big change to the war system. It would also be immensely difficult to implement, without stopping wars being declared over 48h before the necessary maint break.

2. 320k is too low for a TH9, unless it is a very, very rushed base. I don't dip below 440k ever. Most wars, I get over 1 million in bonus. The fact is, my 2 alt accts. lived/live off wars. Imagine how much that could reduce gem sales.

The clan perks system was also integrated to work with 48h wars.

The long and short of it is, it's too hard to implement, and SC are unlikely to do so, as it will lose them money. Zapping lost them money, which is why they addressed it.

Well you can make more from doing attacks in 48hrs then you can ever in clan wars loot or otherwise. i recommend its overhaul based on factors that would Benefit clans to war more frequent because lets face it people just like to.

Give players what they want and yes they would gem more. Its all about acquiring players, keeping new players and getting those that have not even considered the game in here to play it. A added bonus for clan xp is to keep clans warring because of that fact you can get more loot farming. And no it has nothing to do with add or adhd it has to do with upgrading an old version to something newer while still keeping the old one running. STAGNATION kills games you have to reinvent things or they just go down the drain. That is why supercell places these sections on the forums to keep fresh new ideas coming in to help the game stay current. Then update with new fresh ideas and keep their money rolling in and the players happy this is elementary my dear watson and my idea is to FIX the war preparation either by adding new elements such as a all ready button, clan xp or something that would fix it. clans fighting clans is the very essence of this game it is its name Clash of Clans not die on bus ride waiting on war prep time. My intention is making it more so, vamping it up and making a steroid version of it. Supercell can't? or they will not" or they are, considering those phrases will have an impact here. But the mere thought of you can not do it cause it would interfere with international readiness is an excuse not to update servers, network administration. And in the very sense is admittance that the game is floating to the downward spin of doom. The end game result Upgrade or do nothing and get nothing. Invest and get a return or walk away from a mistake and let the game die off.

And as far as not being able based on what reason. the programming code is a set of numbers that can always be edited or deleted therefore making it whatever you want it to be. What drives everything is Money. After money it is technology can we do this with what we have at the current time followed up by manpower. end product is the result. this is the bases of most games but it all starts here. With an Idea! and believe me it ends with no ideas. my advice keep the ideas coming and roll out with what updates they can make or tell us they can't with a reason understandable to high school students or younger because believe me kids play this game as well as us adults. And time always advances, making these fresh ideas new and appeal to those younger than us will secure this games future in their hands. Even if they have ADHD. To me that just me more updates because the attention span is gone. Good luck. And keep the posts rolling in.;)

So one team hits the ready button at 8pm and they are ready to roll. Then the other team based on the other side of the world hits the ready button at 4am relative to the first teams time zone. Who has the advantage now?

I very much do not want this idea to be implemented.

I've been whinging about the length of clan war (to myself) for months now. It's too long a wait between wars. During Prep day most active clans fill war cc's in 12 hours or less, well we do anyway. Then we have another 24 hours to war. That is more than enough time to train troops and plan attacks. Once I've done both attacks I'm bored af. I also need to practice war strategies but the match ups in normal raids are not as competitive as war match ups so I don't even bother. I don't care about xp or loot as much. I'd love an option to start a new search for war at least 12 hours before the end of the current war. I know a lot of people and including myself are surprised to find how addictive this game is especially during clan wars, winning or losing. Please, please consider an option to start a new war search before the end of the current war.