level 7 dark troop!! The Tangler!!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ps5c1b8ef5.jpgIn my previous Doom Knight thread I presented a troop that I would like to see as the final dark troop in Clash of Clans, however it will be awhile before we ever got to see that troop put in the game so I'd like to present additional ideas for troops that might not be as far off in the future. With that being said, here's a potential idea for a level 7 dark troop that I hope you all find interesting...

Deep within the swamps and forests across the realm.... an ancient and mysterious creature awakens from centuries of slumber.... summoned to the battlefield by the power of dark elixir! This plant-like combatant is known as the mighty Tangler! (Alternative names could be the Ent, Treant, Spriggan, or the Wrapper lol)

Stats and Characteristics:

*in game troop description: This aggressive plant beast wraps up enemy walls in vines, helping the invading army get into a base!!

*Unlocked at a Dark Barracks Level 7 (TH 10)
(Suggested cost is 4,000,000 elixir)

*I've edited the troop to no longer deal damage, so it's strictly a support troop

* it's "attack" is a splash "latch on" which then creates an effect

*attack speed is 2.0 seconds

Ability: the Tangler targets walls at melee range, and latches on to them with a kind of "vine wrap" attack which deals no damage but activates a jump effect. Any nearby ground troops will be drawn in to climb over the wall the same way as if an actual jump spell had been dropped (smaller 2.5 tile radius though).....

**within this small area once a tangler latches onto a wall the animation of the walls would then change to show green vines wrapped around them.
(Primary purpose of this troop is to have a tankier alternative to wall breakers as means of getting into a base)

*tanglers like wallbreakers are unaffected by jump, so one placed after the other will not move deeper into a base.

*to maximize their effectiveness in groups they should be dropped spread apart

*as a cc troop the tangler would act as a "stunning" troop, that doesn't deal damage but latches onto troops and heroes and freezes them for a short duration.

*Upgrade Cost
-Lvl 2- 60,000 dark
-Lvl 3- 70,000 dark
Lvl 4- 90,000 dark

Stats:
Lvl 1
cc Stun duration- 5 seconds
Radius of jump- 2.5 tiles
HP-950
training cost:150 Dark
attack type: splash, melee
targets: ground
fav target: walls
Housing:10
training speed: 8 min
mov: 12

Lvl 2
Cc stun duration- 6 seconds
Radius of jump- 3.0 tiles
HP- 1200
training cost-250 dark

Lvl 3
Cc stun duration- 7 seconds
Radius of jump- 3.5 tiles
HP-1400
training cost-350 dark

Lvl 4
Cc stun duration - 8 seconds
Radius of jump - 4.0 tiles
HP-1600
Training cost- 500 dark

Weaknesses....
*primary weakness of this troop is x2 damage from inferno towers, because since it is a plant the extreme heat burns it up even faster. Given that inferno towers are already very powerful, this is a HUGE counter to any kind of tangler attack,and will only make them effective if kept out of an inferno towers range

*the troop is not immune to spring traps

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Please comment and share your thoughts and opinions on this troop concept :)

This Troop idea is very well thought of and I can tell u really about this while making it I do think a little twist could be added though... Maybe make it so lower level wizards (since they shoot fire not lightning) should do a bit more damage and be able to unlatch the tangler from walls for 1.5 seconds. This is just thought and this is your idea so u don't have to use this but thanks for reading anyway������

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Originally Posted by CrimsonWaffle

This Troop idea is very well thought of and I can tell u really about this while making it I do think a little twist could be added though... Maybe make it so lower level wizards (since they shoot fire not lightning) should do a bit more damage and be able to unlatch the tangler from walls for 1.5 seconds. This is just thought and this is your idea so u don't have to use this but thanks for reading anyway������

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Appreciate the feedback, that sounds like it would be a cool idea but I don't think it would really serve much of a purpose towards balancing the troop out more

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Originally Posted by Asmdus88

Appreciate the feedback, that sounds like it would be a cool idea but I don't think it would really serve much of a purpose towards balancing the troop out more

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Kk ok I was just thinking and came up with it randomly I do think that this definitely should be added to the game so good luck!!!

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Originally Posted by CrimsonWaffle

Kk ok I was just thinking and came up with it randomly I do think that this definitely should be added to the game so good luck!!!

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Glad you like the idea

I think something like this would have a lot of strategic value to it and would fit nicely with what we already have in the game

Any other feedback on this concept? Does anyone think something like this would be useful? Would you want to see this in Clash?

I definitely see uses for this troop, good thread overall, and good job.

So, the Tangler will twist vines onto walls for other units to climb over? Seems very intereting, but I do believe Wallbreakers will be needed in order for the Tangler to get deeper into a base. The Tangler won't replace Wallbreakers, which is a positive.

This troop isn't another damage dealer, and is quite unique compared to many other ideas.

Will this troop only attack walls? Because if there are a few situations where units don't need to climb walls,what will the troop do?

Anyhow,another great idea/thread and good luck with it.

I like it ok......

Well, part of me says it sounds cool, but ....

my first thought as I read is... with wb, jump, and now earthquake, do we really need one more thing to target walls? Why spend 1-2-3-5 million on e.a.c.h. wall segment if there are going to be a gazillion ways to destroy them?

So I'm not sure about this one yet....?

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Originally Posted by MommySnooks

Well, part of me says it sounds cool, but ....

my first thought as I read is... with wb, jump, and now earthquake, do we really need one more thing to target walls? Why spend 1-2-3-5 million on e.a.c.h. wall segment if there are going to be a gazillion ways to destroy them?

So I'm not sure about this one yet....?

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That is what I do not like about this troop... 4 Earthquakes could replace it.... Hogs, Wall Breakers, Jump Spells, and Earthquake Spells mess with walls... Why add a 5th?

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

I definitely see uses for this troop, good thread overall, and good job.

So, the Tangler will twist vines onto walls for other units to climb over? Seems very intereting, but I do believe Wallbreakers will be needed in order for the Tangler to get deeper into a base. The Tangler won't replace Wallbreakers, which is a positive.

This troop isn't another damage dealer, and is quite unique compared to many other ideas.

Will this troop only attack walls? Because if there are a few situations where units don't need to climb walls,what will the troop do?

Anyhow,another great idea/thread and good luck with it.

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Originally Posted by Asmdus88

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ps5c1b8ef5.jpgIn my previous Doom Knight thread I presented a troop that I would like to see as the final dark troop in Clash of Clans, however it will be awhile before we ever got to see that troop put in the game so I'd like to present additional ideas for troops that might not be as far off in the future. With that being said, here's a potential idea for a level 7 dark troop that I hope you all find interesting...

Deep within the swamps and forests across the realm.... an ancient and mysterious creature awakens from centuries of slumber.... summoned to the battlefield by the power of dark elixir! This plant-like combatant is known as the mighty Tangler! (Alternative names could be the Ent, Treant, Spriggan, or Wall Crusher)

Stats and Characteristics:

*in game troop description: This aggressive plant beast wraps up enemy walls in vines, helping the invading army get into a base!!

*Unlocked at a Dark Barracks Level 7 (TH 10)
(Suggested cost is 4,000,000 elixir)

*attack speed is 1.0 second

*attack type is single target "streaming" attack

Ability: the Tangler targets walls at melee range, and latches on to them with a kind of "vine wrap" attack which deals damage every second. Any nearby ground troops will also be drawn in to climb over the wall the same way as if a mini jump spell had been dropped (2.5 tile radius)..... within this small area the animation of the walls would also change to show green vines wrapped around them.
(Primary purpose of this troop is to have a tankier alternative to wall breakers as means of getting into a base)

*tanglers like wallbreakers are unaffected by jump, so one placed after the other will not move deeper into a base.

*2 tanglers latched on to the same wall would stack the damage dealt every second, but in order to expand the jump effect a different wall would need to be targeted

*as a cc troop the tangler would be a very strong tanking troop

*Upgrade Cost
-Lvl 2- 60,000 dark
-Lvl 3- 70,000 dark
Lvl 4- 90,000 dark

Stats:
Lvl 1
DPS-100
HP-950
training cost:150 Dark
attack type: single target
targets: ground
fav target: walls
Housing:15
training speed: 8 min
mov: 12

Lvl 2
DPS- 140
HP- 1200
training cost-250 dark

Lvl 3
DPS-180
HP-1400
training cost-400 dark

Lvl 4
DPS-200
HP-1600
Training cost- 600 dark

Weaknesses....
*primary weakness of this troop is x2 damage from inferno towers, because since it is a plant the extreme heat burns it up even faster. Given that inferno towers are already very powerful, this is a HUGE counter to any kind of tangler attack,and will only make them effective if kept out of an inferno towers range

*the troop is not immune to spring traps

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Please comment and share your thoughts and opinions on this troop concept :)

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Maybe tougher, the climbing thing, maaaaybe without the damage aspect??

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Originally Posted by MommySnooks

Well, part of me says it sounds cool, but ....

my first thought as I read is... with wb, jump, and now earthquake, do we really need one more thing to target walls? Why spend 1-2-3-5 million on e.a.c.h. wall segment if there are going to be a gazillion ways to destroy them?

So I'm not sure about this one yet....?

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There are multiple ways to get around walls already, each with it's own sense of strategy to it, so the main point of adding something like this is really just to offer more depth to that strategy.

You could use a jump spell, orrrr a few of these. One option gives you less troop space, but opens up 2 spell slots for you. Whichever way you decide to go there are advantages and disadvantages. You could even try incorporating an attack strategy that used both.

A jump spell can be dropped at any time anywhere on the map but has limited duration. With a troop like this so long as it's alive there is the potential to have a jump somwhere on the map indefinitely.... but that's just it, it can die, it can hit a spring trap when you least expected it or it can move in a direction you didn't want it to go lol.

Wallbreakers can get one-shotted by mortars which would never happen with this troop, but wallbreakers are twice as fast, take up less army space, and if used right can blow open several walls very quickly (while this troop breaks them down slowly overtime).

It's all about achieving the same goal in different ways, and finding ways to mix and match with different troop set ups. That is a big part of the fun in Clash imo.

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Originally Posted by MommySnooks

Maybe tougher, the climbing thing, maaaaybe without the damage aspect??

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At max, this troop does 200 damage per second..... to walls, which have 7000 life at max level. For one of these by itself to break through 1 max wall will take 35 seconds..... so in any given match, The most walls he could break through would be 5 (if the walls are maxed and he doesn't die)

The damage stacks if multiple tanglers are together.... so with 2 of them they'd drop max walls in about 17.5 seconds, and with 3 they'd drop them in about 11.25 seconds..... but remember.... they take up 15 army space each...... and all the while they're on a wall they're vulnerable to defenses, plus they are affected by spring traps (which would make them the largest troop with this weakness)

Against level 8 walls it'd take one 15 seconds per wall, and 20 seconds per wall at lvl 9.

People could use more than one or two if they wanted but the more you use the less army you have to actually fight a base with so that would be very risky.

Perhaps the damage aspect could be removed completely, and the function of this troop could be redesigned to strictly be about offering an indefinite jump spell.

That way he functions as a non damage support troop somewhat like the healer, but instead of healing he offers jumping to your troops..... and the only way to get him deeper into a base is to fight your way through and open up the path with the existing methods.

I kind of like that notion.

I've made a critical change to this troop concept, opinions? Does this seem like something useful you'd like to see in game someday??

Would love to hear what other ppl say. I think there is a lot of potential here.... :-)

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Originally Posted by MommySnooks

Would love to hear what other ppl say. I think there is a lot of potential here.... :-)

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Haha glad you think so. I agree I like this idea a lot more now after the last edit :)

i bets that the new troop type-tree/grass/wood would be nice to fit in dark barrack lv7/8/9/10.. and of course i like this type very much.. because this type is my favourite.. hehe

Why couldn't this troop target resource buildings instead of walls? The dark barracks doesn't have any troops that go after resources. With some decent health on this troop it could fill that role. I don't like the thought of an ent just helping troops over walls.. If I had an ent in my army he should be able to walk right over the wall... He's a tree for clash sakes. Make him extremely vurnable to fire... Inferno towers would torch these fiends.

Love your idea. However, right now your cost for this is half of that of a lava hound. Needs to be raised. Not a lot, but at least a little.

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Originally Posted by LordXBox

Why couldn't this troop target resource buildings instead of walls? The dark barracks doesn't have any troops that go after resources. With some decent health on this troop it could fill that role. I don't like the thought of an ent just helping troops over walls.. If I had an ent in my army he should be able to walk right over the wall... He's a tree for clash sakes. Make him extremely vurnable to fire... Inferno towers would torch these fiends.

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That could also be a cool version....walks over a wall and latches onto a storage (if you place it properly) otherwise it attaches to whatever mine, collector, or storage it's closest to. Then that brings back the damage element instead of a troop version of a jump spell?

Just a thought....?

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Originally Posted by MommySnooks

That could also be a cool version....walks over a wall and latches onto a storage (if you place it properly) otherwise it attaches to whatever mine, collector, or storage it's closest to. Then that brings back the damage element instead of a troop version of a jump spell?

Just a thought....?

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Cool idea as well but nah I really like this non damage support troop version now. I think it would be more unique to have it in this way.

And it's true that we don't have a resource collection troop on the dark side but idk if that's what we all really wanna see in clash. I raid just fine with barch and goblins tbh, and generally when picturing the last dark troops I like to think of something that could enhance the playing experience of Clan wars, something that adds some level of further depth into the strategy.

I don't think a resource gatherer fills that role