HOPPER PROBLEM!!!!! --Solution

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June 28th, 2013
MarioFlores

HOPPER PROBLEM!!!!! --Solution

Okay, so this guy joined my clan and said "Hello, I'm ____ , I'm 15 years old." So like ever other new person joining the clan he requests for troops and then asks "So what does it take to become elder around here?" And as leader, I'm fair to everyone and say, "You have to donate 750 troops a week or become loyal." The person says okay. In 3 days the person donates 829 troops and says "There, I want elder." And I give him elder. NOTE: I only had 4 elders including him and the clan had 48 members. I log off and when I came back, all members have been kicked! And he left. And I was only gone for 18 minutes!

Therefore the solution-

There should be a Cooldown for elder to kick players, 1 every 5 or so minutes between expels.
this way the clan doesn't loose all members!

what do you think?
June 28th, 2013
IFTW

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioFlores

Okay, so this guy joined my clan and said "Hello, I'm ____ , I'm 15 years old." So like ever other new person joining the clan he requests for troops and then asks "So what does it take to become elder around here?" And as leader, I'm fair to everyone and say, "You have to donate 750 troops a week or become loyal." The person says okay. In 3 days the person donates 829 troops and says "There, I want elder." And I give him elder. NOTE: I only had 4 elders including him and the clan had 48 members. I log off and when I came back, all members have been kicked! And he left. And I was only gone for 18 minutes!

Therefore the solution-

There should be a Cooldown for elder to kick players, 1 every 5 or so minutes between expels.
this way the clan doesn't loose all members!

what do you think?

i believe that is a great solution but maybe more of a cooldown time because sometimes leaders. Maybe offline to sleep
June 28th, 2013
DiamondsareMine

how about elders get a cool down and if supercell make co-leader only one person can get it and no cool downs for the co-leader
June 28th, 2013
Hemi

Need to be more careful who you make elder to bud.
June 28th, 2013
iansilv

Check out my player history button idea.
June 28th, 2013
Hannibal42

Ya, I support any idea along these lines, but even then that could be a game of people seeing how many people they can kick in between the cooldown before they get kicked. I made a post suggesting they put a simple field the guild leader can put how many people an elder can kick per day. 1, 2, 3...48 (cant kick leader and self lol).

edit: its not a hopper problem too but mass clan kicking, aka griefing. :/
June 28th, 2013
TheLastClan

1. why does that guy become elder at all?
2. this has been suggested before
3. its an awesome idea:cool:
June 28th, 2013
MarioFlores

Agreed

Quote:

Originally Posted by IFTW

i believe that is a great solution but maybe more of a cooldown time because sometimes leaders. Maybe offline to sleep

Yes, even better👍
June 28th, 2013
GooseCookin

Theres a new sticky in the General section, thread located here: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...s-Clan-Related

contains all the possible future update ideas related to clans. Yours and many others are mentioned there, vote on 11 that you would like implemented!
June 28th, 2013
Stitch

The solution you propose proves you haven't learnt your lesson. So instead of losing everyone you'd still lose 3 or 4 people in a 20 min break with a 5 min cool down between kicks.

Elder is a powerful position, pretty much the same as clan leader. Just dont give it out to people you barely know. Make them earn it over a period of months.
June 29th, 2013
MarioFlores

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitch

The solution you propose proves you haven't learnt your lesson. So instead of losing everyone you'd still lose 3 or 4 people in a 20 min break with a 5 min cool down between kicks.

Elder is a powerful position, pretty much the same as clan leader. Just dont give it out to people you barely know. Make them earn it over a period of months.

Well, loosing 5 members in 30 minutes is not the same as loosing all members in your clan in 30 or less seconds😑
So you tell me which is better👍😏
June 29th, 2013
Nonameentered

this would help because then elders can just keep promoting while the kicker kicks and waits for cooldown. It will definately discourage the kickers from kicking since they like kicking a lot rather than one.
June 29th, 2013
Daniel119

I hate trollssss

Well sometimes people join my clan ClanMasters(Im Leader) the clan has 15094 trophies currently and people r really jealous of it and they join fake the loyalty and then kick everyone now a days i really keep the clan balanced so no one kicks members now. I think that's a great idea so i can asure that my clan will be safe. I think they should add a role of High Elder or CoLeader. Who agrees with me?
June 29th, 2013
IceKingGlaceon

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioFlores

Okay, so this guy joined my clan and said "Hello, I'm ____ , I'm 15 years old." So like ever other new person joining the clan he requests for troops and then asks "So what does it take to become elder around here?" And as leader, I'm fair to everyone and say, "You have to donate 750 troops a week or become loyal." The person says okay. In 3 days the person donates 829 troops and says "There, I want elder." And I give him elder. NOTE: I only had 4 elders including him and the clan had 48 members. I log off and when I came back, all members have been kicked! And he left. And I was only gone for 18 minutes!

Therefore the solution-

There should be a Cooldown for elder to kick players, 1 every 5 or so minutes between expels.
this way the clan doesn't loose all members!

what do you think?

Watch who you make Elder.
June 29th, 2013
mxa

if someone has to ask, for elder, they don't deserve elder
June 29th, 2013
MoHandles

Honestly, why did you feel the need to promote some guy who had only been in the clan for a few days? Elders should be trusted members who have been in the clan for months, and who you know to donate constantly. This feature would not be needed if everyone waited and only promoted trusted members.
June 29th, 2013
Mufasa

When I was leader in bDTP if someone even asked for elder or what it took to get it especially when they joined I would kick them.
June 29th, 2013
Edster56

Why dont they make it that elders can only kick when the leader is online that way the leader can kick the elder that kicks for no reason before they inflict further damage
June 29th, 2013
MarioFlores

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoHandles

Honestly, why did you feel the need to promote some guy who had only been in the clan for a few days? Elders should be trusted members who have been in the clan for months, and who you know to donate constantly. This feature would not be needed if everyone waited and only promoted trusted members.

Wow, im not even gonna say what this reply ment to me-.-
June 29th, 2013
MarioFlores

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edster56

Why dont they make it that elders can only kick when the leader is online that way the leader can kick the elder that kicks for no reason before they inflict further damage

That is Genius👍
June 29th, 2013
Fire296

already in sticky - is needed, suggested by other before.

next time only promote people you really trust, sometimes you gotta be harsh with giving the elder.

-- maybe there should also be a button that allows you to re invite kicked members? --
June 30th, 2013
MarioFlores

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire296

already in sticky - is needed, suggested by other before.

next time only promote people you really trust, sometimes you gotta be harsh with giving the elder.

-- maybe there should also be a button that allows you to re invite kicked members? --

"maybe there should also be a button that allows you to re invite kicked members"
Genius, but it would be better if it had both because i was just being fair to clan members to donate 650. He was just jealous.
June 30th, 2013
Mikazzi

Educate your elders. When someone starts kicking, promote every member, you can promote much faster than they can kick.
June 30th, 2013
MarioFlores

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikazzi

Educate your elders. When someone starts kicking, promote every member, you can promote much faster than they can kick.

No it is not faster, it is the same.. And "when someone starts kicking" remember that I logged out for 17 minutes.. How am I suppose to promote everyone if I'm not online... Dude, seriously read and think before typing. -.-
June 30th, 2013
MarioFlores

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikazzi

Educate your elders. When someone starts kicking, promote every member, you can promote much faster than they can kick.

Oh and not all my elders were on at that time.
June 30th, 2013
Bocker99

Kicking limit good and bad

As many have said people do have issues with the whole thing where you make somebody elder and you come back and half your clan is gone along with him. I think that this is a good idea but to a point, there will always be cases where you just kicked somebody for bad language or whatever and then this dude comes in and kicks out one of your better members for no reason, you are then stuck waiting for 5 minutes while he could've just kicked another person......the kicking out could still be a problem if no other elders are on though......
June 30th, 2013
BillyJazz

Preventing an elder from kicking a player for a time period completely undermines the position.

The real solution is to have an additional level within the structure that is higher than elder, maybe 'co-leader' or something like that. You can hen think in terms of exactly how you go about setting privileges for people within the clan and defining their role. Maybe only the clan leader and co leaders can kick people.

Another feature which I am actually amazed isn't on the game is to have a ban feature. A guy called 'Taylor' joins the clan, he gets kicked, he come back, he gets banned. He can then no longer join the clan. The ban list can be administered by the clan leader and co-leaders.

You could say the current system is broken because features don't exist to control situations. The solution is create new features that puts leaders in even more control of their clans. The solution isn't to break existing features that serve a good purpose.
June 30th, 2013
Tuvya

Excellent idea!! Same thing happened in our clan too!
June 30th, 2013
Elothean

You shouldn't promote that quickly unless you know them personally (especially those who demand the position)
June 30th, 2013
Mantarians

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamondsareMine

how about elders get a cool down and if supercell make co-leader only one person can get it and no cool downs for the co-leader

I agree, never had this problem but sounds annoying.
June 30th, 2013
Jackcold

How about leader can give elder but can select if they can invite ,kick or both.not hard to do
June 30th, 2013
Stitch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mufasa

When I was leader in bDTP if someone even asked for elder or what it took to get it especially when they joined I would kick them.

So you'd kick a new member who joins your clan all excited asking lots of questions, if one was about what it took to get Elder status?

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