th8 how to use hogs

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Originally Posted by tyler4

There's a debate raging in the appropriate forum for this right now (attacking strategies), and don't waste your time with GOWIPE: If you want two stars, just dropped level 3 dragons upwind of the air sweeper and lightning the AD in front of it. If you like three stars, then GOVALO, level 3 dragons, or level 4 hog a base as appropriate.

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this is about hogs....

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Originally Posted by NF2335

Yes, level 3 hog riders are better than level 3 dragons at attacking th8.

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In what world? Level 3 dragons can 3 star most lower TH8s, max TH8s with bad layouts, and can two star any TH8... Level 3 hogs don't have the hp to survive giant bombs like level 4 hogs do and any attempt on a decent TH8 using them will fail spectacularly. I've had enough people in my clan try to tell you it's the hogs, not you.

As for someone pointing out this is about hogs not other attacks, OP doesn't have level 4 hogs, therefore his hog attacks are destined to fail and waste tons of DE he needs for level 4 hogs.. So yeah, it's sensible to tell him what his best bet for three stars are because it isn't GOWIPE.

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Originally Posted by tyler4

In what world? Level 3 dragons can 3 star most lower TH8s, max TH8s with bad layouts, and can two star any TH8... Level 3 hogs don't have the hp to survive giant bombs like level 4 hogs do and any attempt on a decent TH8 using them will fail spectacularly. I've had enough people in my clan try to tell you it's the hogs, not you.

As for someone pointing out this is about hogs not other attacks, OP doesn't have level 4 hogs, therefore his hog attacks are destined to fail and waste tons of DE he needs for level 4 hogs.. So yeah, it's sensible to tell him what his best bet for three stars are because it isn't GOWIPE.

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Level 3 hog riders can survive one giant bomb.
Any decent TH8 layout with 3 level 6 air defence can defend against a dragon attack.
Although a dragon attack is better for 2 stars (if a hog attack fails, it usually is 1 or no stars).
I do agree that GOWIPE isn't a good attack for 3 stars. :smirk:

Just a heads up, do NOT use hogs until level 4, they just aren't strong enough on most bases until lvl 4 (experience from attempts in my clan, now most of us have level 4)

Neither level 3 hogs or level 3 dragons are sufficient to three star well laid out TH8's with very high or max defenses. In the hogs' case maxed giant bombs and a good layout may be enough with a strong base, and in the dragon's case maxed air defenses and well set up sweeper may be enough. Neither will do it on a well designed maxed defense base. Mostly what we see three starring max TH8's in war is a maxed TH8 hog attack or a TH9 dropping.

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Originally Posted by NF2335

Level 3 hog riders can survive one giant bomb.
Any decent TH8 layout with 3 level 6 air defence can defend against a dragon attack.
Although a dragon attack is better for 2 stars (if a hog attack fails, it usually is 1 or no stars).
I do agree that GOWIPE isn't a good attack for 3 stars. :smirk:

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Can they survive a single giant bomb? Barely. But if your heal is a second too late, they're done for, and if they're getting hit by point defenses, the heal won't save them. In a vacuum, you're right, but in practice if the giant bombs are inside the base even with proper healing too many level 3 hogs are going to be level 3 bacon and your level 3 hogs won't be strong enough to clear the base.

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Originally Posted by tyler4

Can they survive a single giant bomb? Barely. But if your heal is a second too late, they're done for, and if they're getting hit by point defenses, the heal won't save them. In a vacuum, you're right, but in practice if the giant bombs are inside the base even with proper healing too many level 3 hogs are going to be level 3 bacon and your level 3 hogs won't be strong enough to clear the base.

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Yup. In practice lvl3 hogs hitting a single lvl3 giant bomb tends to kill many if not all of them. Hogs are taking other damage at the time, not just from the bomb, and have to literally be 100% health when they hit it too

I would add that if there aren't obvious bomb/ double bomb locations in the base, don't lay a stream of hogs down on an untested area outside the base walls. Nothing like watching a dozen hogs go up in smoke before they even breach the walls.

Edit that, always try to make that put you hog mass down in a pre-tested area.:facepalm:.

Most basic tips are watch out for double gbombs, skeleton traps and queen

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Originally Posted by NF2335

Level 3 hog riders can survive one giant bomb.
Any decent TH8 layout with 3 level 6 air defence can defend against a dragon attack.
Although a dragon attack is better for 2 stars (if a hog attack fails, it usually is 1 or no stars).
I do agree that GOWIPE isn't a good attack for 3 stars. :smirk:

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Hogs at level 3 have 360 hp, and a single giant bomb does 337.5 hp of damage. When a giant bomb hits a hog at level 3 it will be so dead that even a mini bomb at that point can kill them all at once unless they start at 100% and have a heal on them at the same time.

At level 4, hogs were my favourite attack. Problem is if one thing goes wrong they are very easy to mess up. Now that the poison spell has made an entrance it is much easier to use hogs. DO NOT use the poison spell on cc troops. You will need it to get rid of the Skeltons when they pop. They can kill hogs rather quick all on their own.