I've been wondering this for a long time but never bothered to ask on forums. So here I am, sitting in my office, being bored again... thought i'd post here and see what you folks think.
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I've been wondering this for a long time but never bothered to ask on forums. So here I am, sitting in my office, being bored again... thought i'd post here and see what you folks think.
Yes, its fine.
SC's list of censored words is not very well sorted
some mildly offensive words are censored while some more offensive ones aren't
(not saying "♥♥♥♥" should be banned)
Policies on cursing applies to both in game and on the forum. Something that has been announced a while back is that simulated cursing will be considered cursing. That acronym is simulated cursing.
Here is Super Steve's post on the matter http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ctual-Swearing
So in seeing Steve's post I'm surprised that all the req and leave(using the acronym) are not ba,nnedQuote:
Originally Posted by AxionXD
Odd very odd
Thanks for the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxionXD
Well that's exactly my point. There're so many ♥♥♥♥ clans out there, and there was even a donation event supported by mods/staff a while back involving a clan called "Req N' ♥♥♥♥" or something.
Why haven't those clans got a forced name change?
EDIT: just to be clear, i have nothing against those clans, i think it's kinda pointless in having a clan like those, but it's their clans, so they can set w/e rules they please. I'm just genuinely curious.
if they don't get reported then they don't get name changes. honestly could care less though.
There is tons and tons of Req and ♥♥♥♥ clans.
If ♥♥♥♥ is a bad word, having that many clans with this ♥♥♥♥ things doesn't make it alright.
Here's the donation event i was talking about... scroll down and check no. 2 on the little leaderboard there.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post4595528
Because it's an initialism which could stand for a million of totally innocent things compared to the extremely small number of vulgar meanings it could have.
I agree. Find this very strange and imbalanced from SC.
They can ban people/clans for many other use of language yet this common acronym is not deemed inappropriate?
true, but in this context, i can't think of any meaning other than what's inappropriate, and again, it's not unheard of for SC to ban names with subtle implication of "bad words".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dresden
G - great
T - thanks
F- for
O- offering
why would you find that offensive:p
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Originally Posted by hemirt
lol, good one, but it should've been more like GTFR - great thanks for requesting ;)
They make the rules as they go along. There's a thread on the first page of general naming and shaming a clan for allegedly doing something really bad. Even a mod has commented on it without doing anything about this blatant rule break.
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Originally Posted by x0pht
The lack of enforcement in entirety doesn't change the rules, but if I were to start a Req and Leave clan, I'd avoid using that acronym. Better safe than sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by smolson
yes these clans should be punished. they clearly violate the terms. many players and clans have had their tags changed as well and ♥♥♥♥ is no exception.
Even under that context, there's a million non-vulgar ways of saying it. "Get the frick out". "Get the fudge out". "Get the farfignewton out". The letter F means whatever you want it to mean, and isn't vulgar in anywhere but your own mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by x0pht
Nice try but we all know 99.99996% of the time you see this acronym its going to mean what we all know it to mean. Im not personally offended by it but it's still against the rules and these clans are subject to a name change, if they are reported /caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dresden
Just like the clans that claim the double middle finger base design is some form of medieval friendly greeting. Maybe at some point in history yes, but not now, wr all know what the middle finger means now.
♥♥♥♥ cannot be determined as simulated swearing because you don't know what it stands for.
Getting
To
Fat -
Obese
Gary
Talks
Forever
Okay
Going
To
Franks
Outhouse
Get
The
Food
Out
Simply, Supercell cannot determine what "♥♥♥♥" actually stands for. It's like ♥♥♥! That isn't cencored, because the determination of the acronym cannot be confirmed by Supercell.
Why
The
Face?
Wasn't
That
Funny?
Welcome
To
Simply, the use of ♥♥♥♥ cannot be determined and that is why it is not a bannable offense and is allowed as an appropriate word in clan names, just the same as ♥♥♥ can be said in global. There is no actual swearing in the acronym, as it could stand for many different things. :)
Reporting for small things like this and they getting ban makes the game so childish.
Very true. The acronym could mean millions of things as aforementioned. Changing clan names and banning people is just a waste of Supercell Support's time. As if they don't have enough to deal with without people being so overprotective and those who don't even have a laugh or banter.Quote:
Originally Posted by wizardsfury
For goodness sake the game is rated 13+ I think we all know what ♥♥♥♥ means :rolleyes:
This game isn't for 8 year olds, so people need to get over it. If they're offended by it, they're highly immature as it's just a clan name, not an insult.
Let's be real. You can make every excuse under the sun: We all know what the acronym stands for. Just because there's an endless amount of words that start with the letter "F" that can be substituted there to bypass traditional filters doesn't change the nature of the acronym itself.
Now, is it's bad enough that we should go on a world wide crusade and report every single clan that uses that acronym? I'll leave that up to the individual to decide. You all know how to take a screenshot and should also know how to submit those screenshots to Supercell's in game reporting system if you truly feel offended enough to do so.
I guess we don'y have this issue because these clans dont war or do it just for a few xp, not to win as anyone can come and spy the base. The reports for innapropriate clan name mostly comes from low trashs that just want to win that way, not because it is actually offensive lol.
I can't believe the Clash community are so butthurt about people using this acronym for their clan names. You would've thought everyone would be a bit more mature about it and get on with their lives. People are just having fun with the game, and they don't mean to personally insult anyone, it's just a way of making the clan look scarier and to get more publicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxionXD
If people want to be spoil sports and report them, go ahead. But I see no reason as to why it's wrong.
If ♥♥♥♥ isn't filtered in the clan chat, then people should not be banned and clan names should not be changed until the change in global chat is implemented. Otherwise, if Supercell change clan's names, it is totally hypocritical, especially as the clan chat filter system is so bad. Until ♥♥♥♥ is cencored on Global, no further action should be taken against these clans. Supercell should set the example by updating their filters if they really want to go forwards that way.
Keep in mind, this isn't a game for 5 year olds. :rolleyes:
Like i said earlier, neither am i against those clans nor am I offended by their names, it just feels inconsistent to me in regard to how SC handles forced name changes and bans.
I heard people have been forced to have their name changed because it had numbers 420, 666, or some words that could mean a lot of different things instead of what can be smoked. for all we know, the guy was probably born on April 20th. :smirk:
XDQuote:
Originally Posted by x0pht
10 xDs
I don't necessarily disagree with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo006
I agree with you. Every time I see a clan with that acronym that's what I assume it means. Some of these suggestions people have said that it could mean are just silly. I'm totally sure a clan would make a weird thing up like that that no one else understands. I don't have a problem with it either but when clans can get banned for cursing in their own chat or description then they should be able to be banned for having a obvious curse word in their name. Many clans have no problem with cursing so I'm sure they meant the F in ♥♥♥♥ to be a curse word. Their might be a few out their that don't mean the F to be a curse word but it's likely they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbug
Base in the clan we must matched is "BAMF", which I have seen a lot of
Should we be reporting all of these?
lol
Get
The
Fried
...Oxen?:confused:
On the scale of important issues for SC to waste time on, I agree this is about as low as it gets and personally not offensive to me. That said anyone arguing that it could stand for anything is just making excuses ad we ALL know what it means, especially when used for a req and go clan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo006
And if we are talking maturity...a mature clan wouldn't use such a childish acronym. Just because something isn't censored does not automatically mean its ok and/or not offensive. The list of banned global words is not a contract for what is acceptable and what is not. Things slip through the cracks sometimes.
what's wrong with get the fudge Oreos?
It might stand for Getting The Fun Ostriches.
Very well said and agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbug
Remember, chat censorship isn't the be all, end all of standards. At the end of the day, Supercell is the final judge as to what is deemed appropriate and within the spirit of the game.
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Originally Posted by Terms of Service
By that logic a swastika base shouldn't be banned either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo006
If it isn't censored in the chat, how are people to know that it isn't acceptable? If Supercell really thought it was inappropriate, using "♥♥♥♥" in a clan name would not be allowed. However, if you try and make a clan called "♥♥♥♥" you will be able to. There are loads of clans with the word ♥♥♥♥ in them and I don't see what the problem is here.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxionXD
Supercell have taken the decision not to deem "♥♥♥♥" as inappropriate, just the same as "♥♥♥♥♥♥ed" and "♥♥♥" isn't inappropriate, in their eyes.
We can debate what is appropriate and what's not all night long, but, as you said, Supercell is the final decider in which words are censored. We could debate over all of the words, but at the end of the day, we have no control over this factor.
Using nazi symbolism as a base is highly inappropriate and offensive as 6 million Jewish people died in the Holocaust. Nobody has died because of a clan using "♥♥♥♥" in their clan name.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlindHaze
However, using the aforementioned logic, I can understand your point as it could be assumed as a religious symbol in Hinduism and Buddhism.
While we could go on and debate about inappropriate base designs all night, unfortunately that isn't the topic of the thread. :)
Nope, in those clans you are supposed to request and leave, so it means exactly what most people think it means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dresden
Agreed - I could start a new thread about the swastika base but I think that's been discussed to death with no compromise....!Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo006
Are you offended by it? Most people aren't, because the clans aren't trying to insult people.
Everyone calm down. The world police is here.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxionXD
By 'world police' do you mean America?Quote:
Originally Posted by advanced1
If SC really wanted to be fair and PC it wouldn't be difficult for them to do a global
replace of ♥♥♥♥ with GO. The meaning should remain clear and be unoffensive.
However, in someways having such clan names is useful, since it marks many
of the clans that I wouldn't want to join.
I understand you have a problem with me from a previous post we clashed on, but you need to get over yourself. I'm here to try to help people and part of that knowledge is knowing the rules and regulations of the forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by advanced1
You don't have to like it, I may not agree with all of them, but we're both guest here (both forum and in game) and both have to follow them like everyone else. Whether you appreciate being pointed out the rules or not, it does help those players who did not know stay out of trouble.
Any other issue you have with me personally can be settled through PM.