My goal currently is to get a level 20 barb king and level 25 archer queen. Currently I have L15 King and L20 queen. I have 16k gems right now, how do do you guys recommend I use them most efficiently for the heroes?XD
My goal currently is to get a level 20 barb king and level 25 archer queen. Currently I have L15 King and L20 queen. I have 16k gems right now, how do do you guys recommend I use them most efficiently for the heroes?XD
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Farm DE in heavy sessions while boosting your barracks, spells and/or heroes.
I'm in the same situation as you, but I don't really have the time to do that so I just boost my DE drills. Never buy DE directly with gems (lol at the post above) because the DE/gem ratio is too small - you can get heaps more by boosting drills/barracks.
The best use of gems to push hero upgrades is to farm and use gems to finish now.
The other use would be to boost and do some raiding to gain de. Do not buy DE
THANKS GUYS! That was what I had in mind...
Earn the dark, gem the time. To save more on gems, gem the time of the king when he gets half way and gem queen time right away.
What I am doing with my gems is:
Earn the dark. Start my queen at the end of a farming session. Let her upgrade until the next day when i start to farm or need to do a war attack. Saves me over 100 gems per level, which is nice.
@dhaddix - interesting statement... I am also in a similar situation as OP, may I know why u gem the time of the king at the halfway point while the queen right away?Quote:
Originally Posted by dhaddix1
Is it because the optimal gem-to-time ratio is the best at these points?
I know for lab upgrades, the best time to gem (save time) is right at the start the moment u upgrade... the longer the time left, the more value u get in terms of time saved per gem... trust me i did analysis on an excel spreadsheet for this. LOL
16K? Wow, rich guy there. The most effective usage of gems are to boost barracks/factory spell and hero's health for farming usage, gemming donation war troops for clanmates, gemming hero's upgrade time if you have a full tank DE sitting there waiting for your heroes to wake up.
Probably because the queen is important to snipe those de? The king not so much... imo :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by NoobCakeOwn
Depending on how well you can farm without heroes, I would probably use 10K gems to gem the rest of the AQ build time. Then save the 5K gems for TH10 to gem the AQ build time to 35 and 1K gems to gem the build time on your spell fact in TH10.
Having a maxed AQ early on will make farming DE for the BK a lot easier.
I use gems to finish the upgrade in time for next war attack. Getting dark elixer is easy. Sitting your heroes out for a week is painful and actually costs you a lot of de in raids where you can't get to the core without your heroes. So I put mine down after one war and then gem the time when I'm ready to attack in next war.
What I have done, and will continue to do as long as I'm willing to afford it, is boost when I can and feel like it and gem the AQ time almost immediately (I'll at least put her down at the end of a raid session and leave down until I am ready to rock and roll again) but wait it out on the BK at the very least until I need him for a war attack, if not leaving him down for a war even (down right after early war attacks, down a war, up later in the next war).
If you want to try and make it with the AQ down for awhile to save gems on waking her up boost the BK and the spell factory, even if you aren't necessarily boosting barracks, as the BK with a heal and a jump can really help take the place of the AQ on a lot of bases IME (for raids)
Never ever buy resources with gems. And with rare exceptions (spell factory for example) never gem buildings. Just builder huts till you have 5, hero upgrade times, boosting, and maybe some troops upgrade times in the lab. Anything else is just criminally inefficient gem use
See if you can refund those gems for cans of Monster.
because you have 16K gems which is lot, IMO you can boost de drills too.
did this:
- train gibarch: 14-16 giants 70 archers rest barbs + 6-8 wb + 5-10 minions for backup
- boost all 4 normal barracks + SF + queen (no need to boost dark barracks)
- next to find a base with 1000 de which you sure you can reach it.
- upgrade king non stop and use queen in raids. if you reach full de storage upgrade queen and use finish now (1000 gems). always gem queen and only queen.
IMO above is the most efficient use of gems.
I dont think you can collect enough de to gem the king time too unless you reach lvl30 queen. but anyway if you reach lvl30 queen start gemming your king.
IMO nothing that involves boosting drills can be considered the most efficient. Boosting one max drill for one day is 30 gems and only nets you a maximum of 2,400 gems. That's ONE good raid. You can boost three separate 2 hour things with 30 gems...which means you can gain a LOT more than one stinkin extra raid using those 30 gems.
OP: This is your goal for your attack log. I just screen capped these this minute. I'm doing exactly what you are asking about. I put my AQ down for lvl25 a few minutes ago and will gem her awake...I'm not sure...either tonight before I boost raid some more or tomorrow afternoon when the next war starts.
http://i60.tinypic.com/ndsj0w.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/incyon.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/214aulj.jpg
Now look at that and tell me using 30 gems to boost a drill is better than boosting barracks/spells/heroes/whatever to squeeze some extra raids in.
You should farm for DE in master 3. Boost barracks, spell factory and queen then gem archer queen time. That's what I did. Now I have maxed out archer queen and am now doing non-stop upgrade of barbarian king (level 24) but I don't gem king and have no plans to gem him.
Hello OP, if i were you i would only use the gems to gem the hero upgrading time everytime i had enough DE for the next upgrade. I believe that boosting SF, Drills or even hero health would be a waste but thats up to you. I myself can farm DE very well without heroes and without using any spells at all with Gibarch at crystal leagues where the small bonus helps a bit.
Edit: prioritize the AQ, once you max her you will be able to use her to farm DE much faster for Bk.
I have been using superqueen strat and getting same loot, do you mind sharing what you boost when you do boost sessions and you exact army u cook in each barrack I would love to try it outQuote:
Originally Posted by FisherPrice
Each barracks is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey2e
-Giants
-Wizards (not necessary but I like the extra punch, for quicker turnaround make this like the next barracks listed)
-2 giants rest archers
-6 wallbreakers, 2 giants, rest barbs
I sort of took this from other people who did straight giant, wiz, arch, barb barracks with WB added to barb barracks when they used theirs. I wanted more giants though so I stuck a couple in the barch barrcks. I just queue in giant/wiz/arch/barb to fill the barracks queue before I go out on a raid. When I get back, assuming I used all the giants and WB, it's a simple matter of deleting the arch/barb to stock the WB/giant in ahead of them in those two barracks.
In the rare event I hit pumps I use the giants for a shield then barch behind and simply don't queue wallbreakers in when I get back.
If the base I hit isn't too juicy or is easy to take I will save the wizards and let them build up for a big hit, or donate them.
Spell I stockpile are either 3 heal/1 rage (with a rage pre cooked so I may end up with 2 rage at once, but no more than that) or 2 heal/1 rage/1 jump with a heal pre cooked.
I just started using jump recently but it really helps direct troops to the DE storage in the core, especially on well designed near max/max TH9's or weak TH10's.
And of course one poison spell is always available for hard to lure CC's that have decent troops in them (especially witches and wizards).
I use a giant and barch on the flanks to create a funnel for the majority of giants (use WB on most bases) and heroes to push to center, jump in the second/third level if necessary.
ETA: When I really boost I boost everything, all four barracks, spell factory, and heroes. I can usually wait awhile to boot the AQ, keeping her healthy, not starting the boost until I let her take damage, which means having her boosted for a little while after the rest has expired.
Or I boost the wizards barracks, spells, and maybe AQ only.
I have a Level 37 Queen and a Level 30 King. I'm farming my Queen currently to level 40! I do alot of Boost with Barch in Crystal1-3.
My Way is to search for snipes while Troops being cooked to get the free 100-400 de and attack any Base with easy accessable de! After I farmed the De for my Queen , I gem her time to get her quicker up + saving some Gems.
Works great ! Farmed 2 Queen Levels in 3 Days
So your recommendation/strategy is basically "attack any base with easily accessible DE". That's super helpful lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sturmi
that is helpful because I don't waste my Time with hard Storage raids.Quote:
Originally Posted by FisherPrice
I tried to say I mostly aiming for smaller offers like 200-800 de in Drills or Storages which are outside + taking the crystal League Bonus while Barch is cooking. 360k De in 2-3 Days prove that. Works better than heavier army in Masters aiming for full Storages inside the Core.
Pretty good. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturmi
very dependent on if you war or not, and how patient you are. I managed to save up around 2k or so gems, should get another 2k soon as I hit champ. I used them only to rush the time on my heros for a war if and only if I felt I needed them in the war. Worked well, was able to stretch those gems to get my heros to 15 or so.
16k gems seems like a lot but if you look at the threads that show the cost of gemming they can vanish quickly and not get you very far if you aren't careful. Boosting barracks is good if you have the time to sit around and farm non-stop for hours while your boosted. (I prefer one good raid an hour)