Walls price and TH 10 and good suggestion

Hi Supercell,
this is my first thread, i hope you read it and take into consideration.

First of all, about walls, the price of the wall is quite expensive, hopefull for level 9 and above you can adjust a little bit lower, im not asking for much lower, reasonable 200.000 gold cheaper for level 9 for example.

And can we upgrade wall without a builder? Because it takes 0 min to upgrade a wall why there should be a bulder?

I want to have a great wall for my village, please make the options to upgrade wall either with gold or elixir with the same prices. Because i seems to be full of elixir most of the times, and lack of gold because of all the upgrades.

Th 10, i seems to see that alot of player already complaining about the difficulty in looting. I want to suggest that for th10 and th 9 is consider the same loot rate. For example if iam th 10, and i want to raid th 9, i still get 100 percent of the possible loot. I think this way more and more people will upgrade their th.

For the updates, when you announced there will be updates, almost all the comment is negative. Most of them shout the same thing over and over again, the updates are for high level player and bla2, and the pro answer them, yeah because lower level have so many things to do, they dont need the additional updates.
So here is my suggestion, make some of the updates available for lower TH.. For example, inferno tower available 1 in th9, another one in th10. Xbow available 1 in th 8, 1 in th 9, 1 in th 10. And so on. If you do this, less people complain but you also get the same amount of money from high level who used instant gems to build right?? Because th 10 also can build the additional updates.
People want option, lets give them option, why force them to upgrade TH when they are not ready yet, i have seen a lot of player who abandoned their village just because they cannot get enough gold and elixir, because they upgarde their TH too soon.

Lastly, i understand that supercell is doing this for money, and it is essential for people to buy gems to make things running, so i have suggestion that why dont you advertise in this game, im sure a lot of brand would be very interested, therefore you have additional income and able to give daily bonuses to your loyal user.

Okay that is all for now, for all other player that read my thread, if you think this is a good suggestion please post a reply so that supercell will read it and consider it.

Thanks

You guys are awesomee

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

Hi Supercell,
this is my first thread, i hope you read it and take into consideration.

First of all, about walls, the price of the wall is quite expensive, hopefull for level 9 and above you can adjust a little bit lower, im not asking for much lower, reasonable 200.000 gold cheaper for level 9 for example.

And can we upgrade wall without a builder? Because it takes 0 min to upgrade a wall why there should be a bulder?

I want to have a great wall for my village, please make the options to upgrade wall either with gold or elixir with the same prices. Because i seems to be full of elixir most of the times, and lack of gold because of all the upgrades.

Th 10, i seems to see that alot of player already complaining about the difficulty in looting. I want to suggest that for th10 and th 9 is consider the same loot rate. For example if iam th 10, and i want to raid th 9, i still get 100 percent of the possible loot. I think this way more and more people will upgrade their th.

What is the point of this? So there's no consequence to your actions?

For the updates, when you announced there will be updates, almost all the comment is negative. Most of them shout the same thing over and over again, the updates are for high level player and bla2, and the pro answer them, yeah because lower level have so many things to do, they dont need the additional updates.
So here is my suggestion, make some of the updates available for lower TH.. For example, inferno tower available 1 in th9, another one in th10. Xbow available 1 in th 8, 1 in th 9, 1 in th 10. And so on. If you do this, less people complain but you also get the same amount of money from high level who used instant gems to build right?? Because th 10 also can build the additional updates.

The only reason people upgrade their TH prematurely is to GET those things, so if you lower the requirements, then you'll have a lot more peoplewho should be TH5ers at TH9.


People want option, lets give them option, why force them to upgrade TH when they are not ready yet, i have seen a lot of player who abandoned their village just because they cannot get enough gold and elixir, because they upgarde their TH too soon.

How is SC forcing anyone to do anything? And why are you complaning about abandonded villages?!?

Lastly, i understand that supercell is doing this for money, and it is essential for people to buy gems to make things running, so i have suggestion that why dont you advertise in this game, im sure a lot of brand would be very interested, therefore you have additional income and able to give daily bonuses to your loyal user.

Okay that is all for now, for all other player that read my thread, if you think this is a good suggestion please post a reply so that supercell will read it and consider it.

Thanks

You guys are awesomee

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Padonn my mistakes in ttyping, iOS 7 safari is a little laggy wiith this and I don't fell like tapping all thhered words.

Thanks! I think I'm typing too dang fast for thhis keyboard...

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

Hi Supercell,
this is my first thread, i hope you read it and take into consideration.

First of all, about walls, the price of the wall is quite expensive, hopefull for level 9 and above you can adjust a little bit lower, im not asking for much lower, reasonable 200.000 gold cheaper for level 9 for example.

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Making any TH walls cheaper would allow everyone to acquire them too easily.

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

And can we upgrade wall without a builder? Because it takes 0 min to upgrade a wall why there should be a bulder?

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Excellent idea. It really annoys me when my builders are busy for a couple of days and I can't do anything with the accumulating amount of gold I receive during those days. My base also gets attacked during that time, and if I could just upgrade my walls I might've been victorious against the attackers.

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

I want to have a great wall for my village, please make the options to upgrade wall either with gold or elixir with the same prices. Because i seems to be full of elixir most of the times, and lack of gold because of all the upgrades.

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If SuperCell were to implement this idea, it would cut the time it takes to acquire a full complementation of upgraded walls in half the time it would take to normally upgrade walls with just gold. They would have to significantly raise the prices of all walls if this were to work at all, and the prices for walls are already a plateful for everyones respective Town Halls.

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

Th 10, i seems to see that alot of player already complaining about the difficulty in looting. I want to suggest that for th10 and th 9 is consider the same loot rate. For example if iam th 10, and i want to raid th 9, i still get 100 percent of the possible loot. I think this way more and more people will upgrade their th.

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It is harder for TH10 to get loot because they are at the very top of the CoC food chain. If TH10 players want good loot, then they can attack fellow TH10 bases.

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

For the updates, when you announced there will be updates, almost all the comment is negative. Most of them shout the same thing over and over again, the updates are for high level player and bla2, and the pro answer them, yeah because lower level have so many things to do, they dont need the additional updates.
So here is my suggestion, make some of the updates available for lower TH.. For example, inferno tower available 1 in th9, another one in th10. Xbow available 1 in th 8, 1 in th 9, 1 in th 10. And so on. If you do this, less people complain but you also get the same amount of money from high level who used instant gems to build right?? Because th 10 also can build the additional updates.
People want option, lets give them option, why force them to upgrade TH when they are not ready yet, i have seen a lot of player who abandoned their village just because they cannot get enough gold and elixir, because they upgarde their TH too soon.

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Giving the Inferno Towers and X-Bows at earlier levels would extremely imbalance the game, because the troops at TH8 wouldn't be able to survive an X-Bow barrage for very long. In turn this will stop players from raiding, the players would get bored of the game and then leave.

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

Lastly, i understand that supercell is doing this for money, and it is essential for people to buy gems to make things running, so i have suggestion that why dont you advertise in this game, im sure a lot of brand would be very interested, therefore you have additional income and able to give daily bonuses to your loyal users.

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I will commit suicide if my favourite iOS game got in-game advertisements. They are annoying and make the game lose more people than they receive. Besides, SuperCell already receives more than enough money. Daily bonuses would just annoy players as well. I can't stand daily rewards as it forces the player to have the annoying urge to log-in every day. The only reason that should cause players to log-in daily is because they love playing the game, not for the rewards.
You've got some good suggestions here though, good work.

Only thing I agree with is upgrading walls without a builder.
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I agree with...none of it. Sorry. None. All either make loot harder to find or insult players who have upgraded so far.

Wall Prices: If they were cheaper everyone would have them, what's the point? Everyone has the same problem, having them expensive puts a long term achievement into the game. You aren't going to suffer too much if your walls are 1-2 levels behind. [as long as they at least pink, which is easy to get.]

Build Walls with no Builder: No, balance your builders accordingly. If such a move come in it would be even harder to find gold.

Elixir/Gold Walls: No, like above it would smash available elixir per raid. I'm really sick of stating the 'imbalance' ♥♥♥♥ attached to gold vs elixir. Elixir has constant variable costs in troop training/xbow loading/donating/gardening. Gold does not. Therefore gold upgrades MUST be substantially higher.

Same loot cap for 9 v 10: That is absurd, TH10s could much more easily take out a TH9 due to fewer defenses, loot caps are there to balance that. Also sick of people wanting these caps changed, they are designed to stop stronger [higher hall] players beating the hell out of weaker ones. [lower halls]

Moving X-bows/Infernos to lower halls: No, it would imbalance the game. And would really ♥♥♥♥ off players who upgraded to TH9 for an X-bow for TH8 to suddenly get one.

Ads: No, ads in any way shape or form are pathetic and annoying. The fact that Clash of Clans is one of the few that doesn't have them is a GOOD thing!

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Originally Posted by Icemannaruto

Only thing I agree with is upgrading walls without a builder.

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I agree. But I think this is a money making thing. As in SuperCell realise this and hope you pay gems to free up a builder to build the walls. But I actually like the idea.

Hi guys, thanks for replying. Yeah i think every suggestion has pro and cons. I appreciate your opinion.

For the wall price, as i mention before, i dont expect supercell to cut the price down 50 percent. Im hoping for 10-20percent max, if it were too easy than everyone would have it. Well in the past supercell has make adjustment to lower the price for TH , xbow and other things .hopefully walls too.

I know balance my builder, but my deff now each upgrade takes 7-8 days, how to balance ? It only took me less than 2 days to fill 8 million gold and elixir.
I see your point that it will get harder to find gold, but i think people still need to store gold for upgrade deffensive turrets which is not cheap at all.

Xbow loading, donating, gardening are all cheap, only troops training cost elixir significantly. Walls level 9-11 combine need 2 billion gold.

Th 10 could easily take out TH 9? i have to disagree, it is all depends on your troop and your strategy. In attacking troops the difference from th 9 and 10 is : 20 more troops, better level pekka and dragon, and freeze spell, most of us doesnt use pekka or dragon for farming. So if you are currently in Th 10, and you still want to do farming, the only advantage is you have 20 more troops.

What i meant is that supercell have to consider updating something for the lower level, Last update is additonal gold miner and elixir collector for TH 10.. Why not level 8?

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Originally Posted by daz258

I agree with...none of it. Sorry. None. All either make loot harder to find or insult players who have upgraded so far.

Wall Prices: If they were cheaper everyone would have them, what's the point? Everyone has the same problem, having them expensive puts a long term achievement into the game. You aren't going to suffer too much if your walls are 1-2 levels behind. [as long as they at least pink, which is easy to get.]

Build Walls with no Builder: No, balance your builders accordingly. If such a move come in it would be even harder to find gold.

Elixir/Gold Walls: No, like above it would smash available elixir per raid. I'm really sick of stating the 'imbalance' ♥♥♥♥ attached to gold vs elixir. Elixir has constant variable costs in troop training/xbow loading/donating/gardening. Gold does not. Therefore gold upgrades MUST be substantially higher.

Same loot cap for 9 v 10: That is absurd, TH10s could much more easily take out a TH9 due to fewer defenses, loot caps are there to balance that. Also sick of people wanting these caps changed, they are designed to stop stronger [higher hall] players beating the hell out of weaker ones. [lower halls]

Moving X-bows/Infernos to lower halls: No, it would imbalance the game. And would really ♥♥♥♥ off players who upgraded to TH9 for an X-bow for TH8 to suddenly get one.

Ads: No, ads in any way shape or form are pathetic and annoying. The fact that Clash of Clans is one of the few that doesn't have them is a GOOD thing!

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Upgrading walls without a builder will screw with avaiable raidable loot. Everyone will dump there gold into walls before logging out.

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

What i meant is that supercell have to consider updating something for the lower level, Last update is additonal gold miner and elixir collector for TH 10.. Why not level 8?

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I think you answered your own question.

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

Th 10 could easily take out TH 9? i have to disagree, it is all depends on your troop and your strategy. In attacking troops the difference from th 9 and 10 is : 20 more troops, better level pekka and dragon, and freeze spell, most of us doesnt use pekka or dragon for farming. So if you are currently in Th 10, and you still want to do farming, the only advantage is you have 20 more troops.

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If TH 10 can't take TH9 out easily and add in the loot penalty, TH10 need a boost.

Hello purelink, thanks for replying and giving opinions :)

to finish upgrading wall level 9-11, you have to loot 2 billion gold, if we were able to upgrade walls with elixir like you said we will be able to finish half the time, I think cut the time in half is not so terrible idea.
Let say everyday you play coc, you get 4 million gold, it will take you 500 days to finish upgrade your walls.


Chubacup, clans : jakarta elite

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Originally Posted by Purelink113

Making any TH walls cheaper would allow everyone to acquire them too easily.



Excellent idea. It really annoys me when my builders are busy for a couple of days and I can't do anything with the accumulating amount of gold I receive during those days. My base also gets attacked during that time, and if I could just upgrade my walls I might've been victorious against the attackers.



If SuperCell were to implement this idea, it would cut the time it takes to acquire a full complementation of upgraded walls in half the time it would take to normally upgrade walls with just gold. They would have to significantly raise the prices of all walls if this were to work at all, and the prices for walls are already a plateful for everyones respective Town Halls.



It is harder for TH10 to get loot because they are at the very top of the CoC food chain. If TH10 players want good loot, then they can attack fellow TH10 bases.



Giving the Inferno Towers and X-Bows at earlier levels would extremely imbalance the game, because the troops at TH8 wouldn't be able to survive an X-Bow barrage for very long. In turn this will stop players from raiding, the players would get bored of the game and then leave.



I will commit suicide if my favourite iOS game got in-game advertisements. They are annoying and make the game lose more people than they receive. Besides, SuperCell already receives more than enough money. Daily bonuses would just annoy players as well. I can't stand daily rewards as it forces the player to have the annoying urge to log-in every day. The only reason that should cause players to log-in daily is because they love playing the game, not for the rewards.
You've got some good suggestions here though, good work.

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Originally Posted by Chubacup

What i meant is that supercell have to consider updating something for the lower level, Last update is additonal gold miner and elixir collector for TH 10.. Why not level 8?

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Personally I'm annoyed that didn't come in for TH9 instead. TH9 have very high costs just like TH10.

I'm hoping a pump upgrade, to lv 12 will be introduced in the future to help offset it. And allow it at TH8 or TH9.

TH7, TH8 & TH9 all currently share the same pump situation, yet drastically different costs. That isn't right.

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Originally Posted by AznJinx

Upgrading walls without a builder will screw with avaiable raidable loot. Everyone will dump there gold into walls before logging out.

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Yeah you have a good point but most of them still have to collect gold to upgrade their deffensive turrets right? You cannot build xbow in 1 day farming.
And what good is wall if you dont upgrade your deffensive turrets

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Originally Posted by daz258

Personally I'm annoyed that didn't come in for TH9 instead. TH9 have very high costs just like TH10.

I'm hoping a pump upgrade, to lv 12 will be introduced in the future to help offset it. And allow it at TH8 or TH9.

TH7, TH8 & TH9 all currently share the same pump situation, yet drastically different costs. That isn't right.

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Finally we agreed on something :p
I agree for lvl 12, and i think also with storage, they should up the capacity, i hate to waste my elixir

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Originally Posted by Purelink113

It is harder for TH10 to get loot because they are at the very top of the CoC food chain. If TH10 players want good loot, then they can attack fellow TH10 bases.

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I love people who talk like they have a clue but in their comment they admit they have no clue. You basically admit you're not TH10. So why are you commenting about something you know nothing about? Explain this to me Einstein. How do you farm resources from someone with 3 xbows and 2 inferno towers? I'll give you a hint: YOU DON'T.

I would not say farming at TH10 is impossible. I do it every day. But I will say this. 99.99% of coc players will never make it to where I'm at without fairly significant gemming. It is that hard.

Can you please think about what you're REALLY saying? You're basically arguing that it should be incredibly difficult to do anything at TH10, right? Well, can't you see the problem there genius? There is a way around the difficulty....MONEY. So you're recommending that the non money players face an even tougher fight to compete with gemmers. Wow.....that's smart...not.

I like the idea of getting walls without builders because I constantly save for wall upgrades while I have other upgrades going and then people steal like 100000 of my gold that I was going to use for a upgrade to the walls, that I very much need to stop people stealing my gold...

Build Walls with no Builder: No, balance your builders accordingly. If such a move come in it would be even harder to find gold.

I agree with this as nice it would be to upgrade without a builder, it would unbalance loot available to players making it harder to get loot.

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Originally Posted by Thevinegru

I love people who talk like they have a clue but in their comment they admit they have no clue. You basically admit you're not TH10. So why are you commenting about something you know nothing about? Explain this to me Einstein. How do you farm resources from someone with 3 xbows and 2 inferno towers? I'll give you a hint: YOU DON'T.

I would not say farming at TH10 is impossible. I do it every day. But I will say this. 99.99% of coc players will never make it to where I'm at without fairly significant gemming. It is that hard.

Can you please think about what you're REALLY saying? You're basically arguing that it should be incredibly difficult to do anything at TH10, right? Well, can't you see the problem there genius? There is a way around the difficulty....MONEY. So you're recommending that the non money players face an even tougher fight to compete with gemmers. Wow.....that's smart...not.

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Hello thevinegru,

I can feel your frustration, perhaps you already read my previous comment, that i suggest TH 9 and TH 10 have the same loot percentage, or maybe TH 10 can get a better loot percentage. My fellow clansmate also suffer the same.
im at crossroad here, im tempted on getting the updates of TH10, but i still want to farm, even though my deff is almost max, but my wall are still so far from finished.

Without pekka or dragon or golem and Spell and good level of heroes, you dont stand a Chance against 2 inferno tower, and 3 xbow. All you can do is keep pressing next button until you found another player who is stupid enough not knowing about the loot percentage, upgrade their TH10 with silly defense.

But on the positive side, you can still find TH9, with minimal penalty, only 10 percent.