HELP with GoWiPe TH8 3 stars?

I've been having trouble recently GoWiPe'n in war. I cannot get a 3 star on a TH8. not sure where i am going wrong. can I get some advice from GoWiPe specialists please?

what I bring

2 Level2 Golems
1 Level3 Pekkas
2 Level2 Hogs to lure cc troops
5 level5 WBs
rest wizzies and a couple archers to top it off

CC Troop level 3 pekka or higher

2 Level5 Heal spells 1 rage (max) 1poison

I think my biggest problem is when i know theres a lvl 4 or higher dragon in the cc.. i get scared and not sure how i can successfully kill it. usually i lure it to a corner then send in my golem so it chases after my golem and then murder it from behind with the archers and wizzies. i think that's my problem then my golem dies too quick?

Looking forward to your advice and your gowipe attack strategy!

-annie

You should use 2 Rage and 1 Heal Spell instead. The Heal Spell is mainly meant for the Wizards so try to drop it on them and other troops if you can. Use 1 Rage Spell as all your troops are going into the walls, and the other one when your pekkas, Wizards and Barbarian King are in the middle.
I found it helpful to use 2 Golems and 2 Pekkas or 3 Golems and 1 Pekka with another Pekka in the clan castle at townhall 8 the meatshields help.

Go wipe is going downhill fast. Start using hogs if you want to be good at war.

GoWipe is not a 3 star strategy.

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Originally Posted by Likeaboss2233

GoWipe is not a 3 star strategy.

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this.

It CAN 3 star, but generally only on very open bases.

I know! lol my hogs are being upgraded currently only to lvl 3... don't ask me why but i screwed up on my research order >__< prollly got bad advice...

so before i can use my hogs what other attack strategies can i use with my current troops then??
-a

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Originally Posted by Nanornanor1999

Go wipe is going downhill fast. Start using hogs if you want to be good at war.

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Gowipe can be a 3 star strategy but it takes some practice, I would use hogs more than gowipe.

Erm.. I beg to differ about GoWiPe at TH8. Our 8's have been using GoWiPe for 3* recently. You can check out my youtube channel, I have a whole GoWiPe playlist that's nothing but three stars.

The base needs to have a small number of compartments. Usually 6 or less. The base that looks like a tire iron with the points at each cardinal direction is a prime example of a gowipe base. Any of those spread out TH8 bases like Tootsie Roll are great gowipe bases.

I've stopped luring w/ my TH8 gowipes - just be ready to throw a rage or heal down so your wizards can take down the dragon fast. Luring and killing the dragon takes way too long and you may end up losing the troops to defensive fire after they're done killing the dragon. Let the dragon wander over to your wizards and use them to fry the dragon before he does damage to your pekkas and golems.

Troop comp:
2 golems
2 pekka
8 wbs
2 archers
17 wiz

cc: wiz or lvl 2 witches

In most cases, I'm able to get 3-stars. Sometimes, if the walls are all skulls and very well compartmentalized, you may need to swap some of your wiz for back-end loons or hogs. But in those cases, you might be better off looking at a hog attack anyways.

have you guys tried the 3 pekka one? instead of 2 you use three pekkas? some people said that's a better comp. also 2 rage instead of just one... your thoughts?

-annie

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Originally Posted by Argat

Erm.. I beg to differ about GoWiPe at TH8. Our 8's have been using GoWiPe for 3* recently. You can check out my youtube channel, I have a whole GoWiPe playlist that's nothing but three stars.

The base needs to have a small number of compartments. Usually 6 or less. The base that looks like a tire iron with the points at each cardinal direction is a prime example of a gowipe base. Any of those spread out TH8 bases like Tootsie Roll are great gowipe bases.

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Thats exactly what we've been saying...it can 3 star bases if it's the RIGHT base...but generally speaking its a guarenteed 2 star and a roll of the dice at 3.

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

have you guys tried the 3 pekka one? instead of 2 you use three pekkas? some people said that's a better comp. also 2 rage instead of just one... your thoughts?

-annie

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Yes to all of this. If your clan can provide one, take a max pekka in your CC and two of your own. 2 rage, 1 heal is the way to go. Heal the wizards on the way into the core, rage the core, save last rage to accelerate your pekkas through the last compartment or two.

thanks for the reply,

question how about luring that dragon, i always seem to have issues with the dragon lure..once i lure it then i send my golem in then my golem dies way too quickly after i send out my wizzzies after the dragon. then again i get my two stars only... did i lure it out incorrectly? someone suggested healing my wizzies or raging my wizzies while they zap the dragon.. thoughts?

-a

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Originally Posted by Argat

Yes to all of this. If your clan can provide one, take a max pekka in your CC and two of your own. 2 rage, 1 heal is the way to go. Heal the wizards on the way into the core, rage the core, save last rage to accelerate your pekkas through the last compartment or two.

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

thanks for the reply,

question how about luring that dragon, i always seem to have issues with the dragon lure..once i lure it then i send my golem in then my golem dies way too quickly after i send out my wizzzies after the dragon. then again i get my two stars only... did i lure it out incorrectly? someone suggested healing my wizzies or raging my wizzies while they zap the dragon.. thoughts?

-a

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Just make sure you have it set up right. You want to place the golem so it will run THROUGH the dragon. That way the dragon stays in place and the wiz take it out before they start chasing it, losing dps time in the process. Before dropping the wiz make sure the dragon fixated on the golem and that it's far enough away from defenses that they don't shoot the wiz. Also make sure you don't place the wiz along the golem path♥or they will get roasted while it walks right past them. And the single most important thing with dragons, that everyone seems to overlook: The dragons shadow is it's center point, not the body.

Alternatively you can place several archers slightly(and I do mean slightly)spread out around the dragons shadow and place several wiz further away. The dragon will only be able to take out one archer at a time if you don't clump them.

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

I've been having trouble recently GoWiPe'n in war. I cannot get a 3 star on a TH8. not sure where i am going wrong. can I get some advice from GoWiPe specialists please?

what I bring

2 Level2 Golems
1 Level3 Pekkas
2 Level2 Hogs to lure cc troops
5 level5 WBs
rest wizzies and a couple archers to top it off

CC Troop level 3 pekka or higher

2 Level5 Heal spells 1 rage (max) 1poison

I think my biggest problem is when i know theres a lvl 4 or higher dragon in the cc.. i get scared and not sure how i can successfully kill it. usually i lure it to a corner then send in my golem so it chases after my golem and then murder it from behind with the archers and wizzies. i think that's my problem then my golem dies too quick?

Looking forward to your advice and your gowipe attack strategy!

-annie

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go with 2 rage and 1 heal, get a pekka in your own camp (lev3) and get some max wiz in cc.. dont lure the cc go for it straight with the rage .. hope that might help

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Originally Posted by Biotec

I've stopped luring w/ my TH8 gowipes - just be ready to throw a rage or heal down so your wizards can take down the dragon fast. Luring and killing the dragon takes way too long and you may end up losing the troops to defensive fire after they're done killing the dragon. Let the dragon wander over to your wizards and use them to fry the dragon before he does damage to your pekkas and golems.

Troop comp:
2 golems
2 pekka
8 wbs
2 archers
17 wiz

cc: wiz or lvl 2 witches

In most cases, I'm able to get 3-stars. Sometimes, if the walls are all skulls and very well compartmentalized, you may need to swap some of your wiz for back-end loons or hogs. But in those cases, you might be better off looking at a hog attack anyways.

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I agree, when I used to lure I would just screw up haha

Hey Guys,

Thank you for all your helpful suggestions, my confidence boosted up cuz i got 3 stars finally in war on my mirror. each and every one of your suggestions really helped me. so i did the following for the particular base i was against.

i took 3 pekkas, 2 in my army camp, one in my cc.

5 wbs
1 hog to lure
3 archers
rest wizzies (abt 18)
2 heals and 1 rage (iffy if i should have taken 2 rage instead of 1)

so in the end i still had a lot of wizzies left, and 1 pekka (almost dying though...)
1 pekka i placed exterior to clean up outside stuff. the two i sent into core.

thing is my golems didn't last until the end, was that suppose to happen?

oh also their cc was just maxed wizzies... so again, i couldn't try out the dragon lure... so i am still scared about that...

but thanks for all the great suggestions, i would still love to hear more suggestions... as i am still scared about the dragons in the cc x__x

thanks

-annie

This is one of ours...

https://youtu.be/drTdWomCfjk=UU6kdiVkqIGDqvyGkZ4hfRLg


https://youtu.be/drTdWomCfjk

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Originally Posted by KingBeatdown

this.

It CAN 3 star, but generally only on very open bases.

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I use GoWiVa for open bases.

Gowipe will not get you a 3 star.
Add backend hogs and it will be a 3 star

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Originally Posted by Likeaboss2233

I use GoWiVa for open bases.

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While I do too...GoWipe is also better vs open bases...pretty much any base GoWiva will do well against same with GoWipe..

Both are 2 star strategies....again unless it's vs the right base.

whats backend hogs?

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Originally Posted by Tyl3t

Gowipe will not get you a 3 star.
Add backend hogs and it will be a 3 star

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so i hit a base which looked too easy but i am thinking i hit it from the wrong end/... the base looked long so i went bottom up and it couldn't clear enough.. what went wrong? how do i know if the base isn't good for GoWiPe??

thank you!


-annie

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Originally Posted by KingBeatdown

While I do too...GoWipe is also better vs open bases...pretty much any base GoWiva will do well against same with GoWipe..

Both are 2 star strategies....again unless it's vs the right base.

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

whats backend hogs?

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A few hogs in army comp that you deploy when troops are in core. The hogs will they target remaining defences.

The golems not living at the end isn't an issue, they hardly do any damage. In fact if they are the last thing alive it's a sign you didn't use them properly. They are there to take hits for your other troops.

Pekkas are a different story, they need to stay alive as a large part of their housing space budget is wrapped up in damage.

As for your spells, I wouldn't worry about rage vs heal. I always brought 3 heals with my gowipes. They are a bit more versatile in my opinion, you can do things like drop them on wizards that wonder off by themselves. It can save pekkas, it can support back end hogs etc. Though I always cc pulled at th8. Comes down to preference.

how many backend hogs do bring?

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Originally Posted by Tyl3t

A few hogs in army comp that you deploy when troops are in core. The hogs will they target remaining defences.

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You're probably having trouble because GoWiPe is NOT a 3-star strategy. It can 3-star, but other attacks can do it much better and have a higher chance.

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

how many backend hogs do bring?

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5-8 hogs should do the trick.
However this will no work well against max bases as GoWipe is poor when you get to th9. Learn better strategies now for when you upgrade town hall.

At th8, use dragloon. 9 drags, 4 loons, max loons in cc. bring 2 rage and a heal, drop a rage when you reach the enemy's cc troops

90 % of all my war attacks are a 3 star, and yes using GoWipe . To successfully 3 star a base you need to scout and plan very well, you also have to change your army depending on the base.

Army Comp

2 Golems
2 Pekkas
8 wallbreakers
18 Wizards
2 Archers
1 Max pekka in cc

Now depending on the base depends on how many WallBreakers you bring,amount of archers and wizards
ALWAYS BRING the 2 golems and 2 pekka and atleast 8 Wb

Here is a example of my plan which turned into a 3 starAttachment 131672

Now i never lure the cc, this is because luring the cc wastes time which is very important for a 3 star using gowipe.
When the cc troops come over place a heal and a rage .This willl be your first heal and rage placement . Also take 2 rage 1 heal and a earthquake spell as most of the time a drag will be in the cc

Wow i guess someone needs to tell my my troops that, and take away a couple hundred of my war stars that I earned on my way through TH9, lol. Maxed out TH9 and on my way to TH10 as we speak, now I did not use only GoWiPe of course, but I will use it if that is what will work, and it will work. Not to mention GoWiXx will be the base for all these other so called 3 star attacks, might as well learn at an early point to use Gosomething.

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Originally Posted by Likeaboss2233

GoWipe is not a 3 star strategy.

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it's not a good strategy for you because you don't know how to use it.

GoWiPe is probably the strongest attack for TH8.

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

I've been having trouble recently GoWiPe'n in war. I cannot get a 3 star on a TH8. not sure where i am going wrong. can I get some advice from GoWiPe specialists please?

what I bring

2 Level2 Golems
1 Level3 Pekkas
2 Level2 Hogs to lure cc troops
5 level5 WBs
rest wizzies and a couple archers to top it off

CC Troop level 3 pekka or higher

2 Level5 Heal spells 1 rage (max) 1poison

I think my biggest problem is when i know theres a lvl 4 or higher dragon in the cc.. i get scared and not sure how i can successfully kill it. usually i lure it to a corner then send in my golem so it chases after my golem and then murder it from behind with the archers and wizzies. i think that's my problem then my golem dies too quick?

Looking forward to your advice and your gowipe attack strategy!

-annie

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The key to successful, gowipe is timing, spell placement, good wall breaking and possibly the most important thing (save 2 or 3 wizards for the end of the battle). Choosing the right base is important too. My clan, most people don't lure cc (even if it's a drag), as long as you have enough wizards following your golem, a well placed heal over the golem will help keep it alive and wizards will initiate combat with the dragon. You should stagger release of the wizards so that they don't group up, this makes them vulnerable to splash damage and GBs. Since you can't really predict the travel of your meat shields (golem/pekka) after they go through the core, saving a few wizards and positioning them to destroy remaining defenses once they're mostly done with the base is critical. often times, golems and pekka get stuck behind a few walls and can't reach the last defenses. Making sure you wait for the last defenses to target the golem/pekka before dropping your wiz is important.

Here's a link to several th8 gowipe 3 star attacks that you might find helpful with troop composition, placement and timing... https://www.3starsclanwars.com/categ...er-th08+gowipe

OMG i watched a lot of your guys' videos and it helped so much! lol!! i haven't watched it recently cuz i have been busy and traveling! ack! wow i am so happy you replied my thread!! thank yu thank you!

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The key to successful, gowipe is timing, spell placement, good wall breaking and possibly the most important thing (save 2 or 3 wizards for the end of the battle). Choosing the right base is important too. My clan, most people don't lure cc (even if it's a drag), as long as you have enough wizards following your golem, a well placed heal over the golem will help keep it alive and wizards will initiate combat with the dragon. You should stagger release of the wizards so that they don't group up, this makes them vulnerable to splash damage and GBs. Since you can't really predict the travel of your meat shields (golem/pekka) after they go through the core, saving a few wizards and positioning them to destroy remaining defenses once they're mostly done with the base is critical. often times, golems and pekka get stuck behind a few walls and can't reach the last defenses. Making sure you wait for the last defenses to target the golem/pekka before dropping your wiz is important.

Here's a link to several th8 gowipe 3 star attacks that you might find helpful with troop composition, placement and timing... https://www.3starsclanwars.com/categ...er-th08+gowipe

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Hi Tyl3t!
thanks for your response again..so i should replace some wiz with hogs? i am in th8 and most of my mirrors are th8..i am almost maxed so most of my opponents same... so the hogs is better to replace some wizz then?

right now i am suffering sometimes i get three stars sometimes i get 2... arghhh.. i need my usual 6 stars for war >___< good news is my hogs finally going to lvl 4..

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Originally Posted by Tyl3t

5-8 hogs should do the trick.
However this will no work well against max bases as GoWipe is poor when you get to th9. Learn better strategies now for when you upgrade town hall.

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

Hi Tyl3t!
thanks for your response again..so i should replace some wiz with hogs? i am in th8 and most of my mirrors are th8..i am almost maxed so most of my opponents same... so the hogs is better to replace some wizz then?

right now i am suffering sometimes i get three stars sometimes i get 2... arghhh.. i need my usual 6 stars for war >___< good news is my hogs finally going to lvl 4..

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Take out a PEKKA and put one in the CC. This means you can have 5 hogs and take out a few wizards too and have 2-3 extra hogs.

Don't listen to anyone that says gowipe isnt a 3 star strategy. That's a cop out response by people that don't know how to plan and attack properly. Th8 in particular is gowipe prime.

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Originally Posted by johnleoman

Don't listen to anyone that says gowipe isnt a 3 star strategy. That's a cop out response by people that don't know how to plan and attack properly. Th8 in particular is gowipe prime.

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I would love to see you try 3 star a max th9 inc. lavas because you will fail. At th8 you can get away with any strategy but th9 you only have access to a Pekka from th8 (lvl 3)which will not 3 star a max th9.

thanks Ty :)

so let me see if i got this right,

2 golems
2 pekkas one in cc one i make. 5 hogs
rest wizzies
and wbs...
drop hogs after wizzies?

x__X

oh lord!

-annie

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Originally Posted by Tyl3t

Take out a PEKKA and put one in the CC. This means you can have 5 hogs and take out a few wizards too and have 2-3 extra hogs.

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

thanks Ty :)

so let me see if i got this right,

2 golems
2 pekkas one in cc one i make. 5 hogs
rest wizzies
and wbs...
drop hogs after wizzies?

x__X

oh lord!

-annie

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That's right do your normal GoWiPe and when troops are in or near the core deploy your hogs. And they will destroy remaining defences that are targeting Pekkas, golem etc.
if you feel you need more hogs remove some wiz. 👍

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Originally Posted by BossingBros

90 % of all my war attacks are a 3 star, and yes using GoWipe.

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9 out of 10? That's an extraordinary ratio. I'd love to see some videos of your attacks, particularly the last 10 attacks, as you should have netted 27 stars.

Also, that base that you showed was far from maxed out. 3-starring an upper end TH8, especially a max/near max TH8, with GoWiPe isn't easy (barring a base that begs for it), despite claims to the contrary.

I don't understand how anyone can argue that backend loons or hogs don't significantly improve on a GoWiPe. A straight GoWiPe, in my mind, is a vastly inferior attack. What is often the case is that your pekkas/B King/troops get stuck on walls once through the core and this allows the remaining defenses to just tee off on them. Those two options are often great ways to deal with the last defenses and help secure the 3-star.

The absolute key to any of these types of attacks is the golem and the wizards. Pekkas just come for the ride and can easily be replaced with other strong troops, like, say, valks.

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Originally Posted by Tyl3t

I would love to see you try 3 star a max th9 inc. lavas because you will fail. At th8 you can get away with any strategy but th9 you only have access to a Pekka from th8 (lvl 3)which will not 3 star a max th9.

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The thread starter is specifically talking about th8 gowipe, which will 3 star max th8s. blankly saying its not a 3 star strategy is false. Instead it would be accurate to say that 3 star potential for gowipe peaks at th8 then goes down hill from there.

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Originally Posted by johnleoman

The thread starter is specifically talking about th8 gowipe, which will 3 star max th8s. blankly saying its not a 3 star strategy is false. Instead it would be accurate to say that 3 star potential for gowipe peaks at th8 then goes down hill from there.

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Sure, but it's equally faulty to say that it will 3-star max TH8 bases.

It can, sure, but GoWiPe is often very base specific, requiring lots of walkways. A "tight" base and the GoWiPe will likely struggle.

I think the reason people say it's mostly a 2-star strategy is because you just don't often see a GoWiPe 3-star attack much, or, shall we say, anywhere near as often as, say, mass drags (with or without hogsd/loons) and/or a hog run (& it's variants). Overwhelmingly, the results of most GoWiPes is a 2-star. Perhaps this is because most people don't know how to attack/use it on the wrong base/whatever, but I think that at least plays a role in the conclusions people have about it.

Personally, I'm not a fan of GoWiPe, unless it's got backend loons, or, my favorite (& clan's favorite) hogs with it. You put a L5 Pekka in the CC, get golems, B King, and wizards working into the core, that's one of the strongest attacks I've seen against max/near max TH8 bases

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Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe

Sure, but it's equally faulty to say that it will 3-star max TH8 bases.

It can, sure, but GoWiPe is often very base specific, requiring lots of walkways. A "tight" base and the GoWiPe will likely struggle.

I think the reason people say it's mostly a 2-star strategy is because you just don't often see a GoWiPe 3-star attack much, or, shall we say, anywhere near as often as, say, mass drags (with or without hogsd/loons) and/or a hog run (& it's variants). Overwhelmingly, the results of most GoWiPes is a 2-star. Perhaps this is because most people don't know how to attack/use it on the wrong base/whatever, but I think that at least plays a role in the conclusions people have about it.

Personally, I'm not a fan of GoWiPe, unless it's got backend loons, or, my favorite (& clan's favorite) hogs with it. You put a L5 Pekka in the CC, get golems, B King, and wizards working into the core, that's one of the strongest attacks I've seen against max/near max TH8 bases

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Ive watched alot of failed mass dragon attacks, and was apart of a clan where me and a few others consistently 3 starred max 8s with gowipe and variations of gowipe, so I don't understand why people see mass dragons as more viable. I prefer just about every ground attack over dragons.

i am sorry, but i must agree with John, perhaps i am not a great player like most of you are >__< but i took the cue to move on to ground attacks because i was having difficulty three starring max bases with mass dragons. I use to get 5-6 stars with dragons but i upgraded more i was having difficulty 3 starring my mirror enemy bases and 1 up enemy... definitely base layout had something to do with it (i guess?) but i knew i needed to learn another attack and have it under my belt for the rest of my TH8 days...
Your opinions are very much appreciated. i read every one of them and take it all into consideration though :)

-annie

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Originally Posted by johnleoman

Ive watched alot of failed mass dragon attacks, and was apart of a clan where me and a few others consistently 3 starred max 8s with gowipe and variations of gowipe, so I don't understand why people see mass dragons as more viable. I prefer just about every ground attack over dragons.

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Originally Posted by johnleoman

Ive watched alot of failed mass dragon attacks, and was apart of a clan where me and a few others consistently 3 starred max 8s with gowipe and variations of gowipe, so I don't understand why people see mass dragons as more viable. I prefer just about every ground attack over dragons.

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Sure, if you're facing, say, AD666/max/near max TH8, no way do I check to dragons unless I can execute something like a dragon snipe. Just not consistent enough. Low to mid, however, it's pretty easy to 3-star with dragons.

But, by the same token, no way do I just blindly think of GoWiPe either. The base has to really call for it. But I'm looking hog first and foremost at max TH8 levels, for it really takes a DGB to stop most hog attacks and even then variants (like GoHo) can deal with DGB locations.

Most of the work on a dragon attack goes into the planning. Once you deploy, you're almost on cruise controls. In other words, it's often an easier attack as well. This helps younger TH8 players execute (hopefully) solid attacks.

And, once again, dragons probably appear more viable because people likely see far, FAR more 3-stars with dragon attacks than GoWiPes over the course of their TH8 career. Granted, the introduction of the leaf blower does change things, but low to mid TH8, it's still just too easy in many, if not most, wars to get 3 from a drag attack

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

i am sorry, but i must agree with John, perhaps i am not a great player like most of you are >__< but i took the cue to move on to ground attacks because i was having difficulty three starring max bases with mass dragons.

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Emphasis on max bases...

Yes, barring a dragon snipe attack (or similar), I don't even consider drags against a max/near max TH8. But a GoWiPe will often struggle, big time, against a great many (most?) max TH8 bases as well. A true GoWiPe often requires a specific base to execute elegantly, otherwise it loses serious steam once it powers to/through the core. There's a reason why serious clans like, say, OneHive, frowns on them (unless the base screams for it)

Luna,

Thank You. What do you suggest and what attacks do you like for TH8 any level?

Thank You again for taking your time to comment :)

-annie

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Originally Posted by johnleoman

Ive watched alot of failed mass dragon attacks, and was apart of a clan where me and a few others consistently 3 starred max 8s with gowipe and variations of gowipe, so I don't understand why people see mass dragons as more viable. I prefer just about every ground attack over dragons.

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Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe

Sure, if you're facing, say, AD666/max/near max TH8, no way do I check to dragons unless I can execute something like a dragon snipe. Just not consistent enough. Low to mid, however, it's pretty easy to 3-star with dragons.

But, by the same token, no way do I just blindly think of GoWiPe either. The base has to really call for it. But I'm looking hog first and foremost at max TH8 levels, for it really takes a DGB to stop most hog attacks and even then variants (like GoHo) can deal with DGB locations.

Most of the work on a dragon attack goes into the planning. Once you deploy, you're almost on cruise controls. In other words, it's often an easier attack as well. This helps younger TH8 players execute (hopefully) solid attacks.

And, once again, dragons probably appear more viable because people likely see far, FAR more 3-stars with dragon attacks than GoWiPes over the course of their TH8 career. Granted, the introduction of the leaf blower does change things, but low to mid TH8, it's still just too easy in many, if not most, wars to get 3 from a drag attack



Emphasis on max bases...

Yes, barring a dragon snipe attack (or similar), I don't even consider drags against a max/near max TH8. But a GoWiPe will often struggle, big time, against a great many (most?) max TH8 bases as well. A true GoWiPe often requires a specific base to execute elegantly, otherwise it loses serious steam once it powers to/through the core. There's a reason why serious clans like, say, OneHive, frowns on them (unless the base screams for it)

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

Luna,

Thank You. What do you suggest and what attacks do you like for TH8 any level?

Thank You again for taking your time to comment :)

-annie

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Totally depends on what base you are attacking and what troops are available.

As a new/mid TH8, I'd almost always be going drags in war. Far too many bases are just awful and/or the ADs are so weak that L2 drags, to say nothing about L3 drags, just torch 'em, even with the leaf blower.

Somewhere along the line, which I'd loosely (make that very loosely) define as, say, AD665 (or higher), the game changes. Mass drags (even L3) just get too hard, barring a dragon snipe attack (search JTJU for this term, although, I don't necessarily use hogs to snipe all 3 ADs, it totally depends on the lay of the base, but if you can get to the ADs fast, you can light up max TH8s with this attack and I'll always go to it first if it's there---it's just taking candy from a baby type of attack...)

In my mind, which I'm sure others may disagree with, at mid to especially max TH8, it's overwhelmingly about hogs. L4 hogs can do a ton of work on a TH8 base, especially if the bacon doesn't get spring trapped or blow up in a GB. As an example, I can think of several dragon snipe attacks where I went 8 drags (+ rage) to get one AD and 13 hogs to get the other 2 (this was just prior to poison and drags/loons dominating CC--a loon will torch hog attacks and must be dealt with carefully, but that is another story...) and the 13 hogs were the star of the show. It just cracked the entire clan up---hogs rule.

So many hog attacks can blow up max TH8s, be it a GoHo or a straight hog run (my favorite right now, despite its simplicity!). A few of my clan mates just rock GoWiPe with hogs, it's not even funny. Their skill with that attack crushes mine and they just light bases up. I can do it, but I find a straight 30-31 hog run easier and more enjoyable...haha Ultimately, you will be amazed to find how many bases do NOT run DGB and many stick GBs on the outside of the base where a single barb can pop it!! /DUH! You can rest assured, a 31ish hog attack will follow and likely 3 star the base...

I also think a variant of GoWiPe/GoWiVa with backside loons/hogs can also be nasty, but the key to the 3 always seems to be those hogs/loons. Some of the best clans/attackers I've ever seen use this idea as well, up to and including against my clan, which sucked!! haha

Unlike townhall 7 which mostly revolve around dragons and lightning spells against other townhall 7s, townhall 8 has plenty of varieties of attacks to choose from like Hogs, Dragon and Dragoon Varieties, GoWi attacks like GoWiPe varieties or GoWiVa...Pretty much the right tool for the right job...you just have to make a good call in knowing which attack to use...

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Originally Posted by MysteriousR

Unlike townhall 7 which mostly revolve around dragons and lightning spells against other townhall 7s, townhall 8 has plenty of varieties of attacks to choose from like Hogs, Dragon and Dragoon Varieties, GoWi attacks like GoWiPe varieties or GoWiVa...Pretty much the right tool for the right job...you just have to make a good call in knowing which attack to use...

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I understand that Mysterious, and thank you for responding.
i would like to perfect my gowipe if possible. i know there are many attacks which i am exploring. however at this point i have maxed my gowipe troops and waiting for my lvl 4 hogs. therefore i am practicing gowipe and would like to hear from ppl in the forum on their take - if they use gowipe and see how i can tailor my gowipe attack and attempt three stars more often.

again, yeah i have slight confusion on knowing the base which would be gowipe or goho and such. again i am waiting for my hogs to lvl up. i have done a few GoVaPe,GoWiVa etc.
i just like to get my attacks down...

thank you for your response :)

-annie

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Originally Posted by MysteriousR

Unlike townhall 7 which mostly revolve around dragons and lightning spells against other townhall 7s, townhall 8 has plenty of varieties of attacks to choose from like Hogs, Dragon and Dragoon Varieties, GoWi attacks like GoWiPe varieties or GoWiVa...Pretty much the right tool for the right job...you just have to make a good call in knowing which attack to use...

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Throw away the idea of using PEKKAs, and start using valks instead.. earthquake to get them into the core, heal them there, then send in some loons to clear the defenses on the other side of the remaining walls.

Yeah, some people act like it's bad players that say that GOWIPEs are two stars then show how they can three star bad bases.. Any attack can three star most of those bases. I say GOWIPE is a two star strategy because we get hit by GOWIPEs in wars over and over and against our stronger 8s, they're never three stars, meanwhile we three star their 8s with dragons, hogs, and GOVALOs. In my experience, GOVALO is just as consistent for getting two stars with a MUCH higher 3 star chance (most of our failed GOVALOs finish at like 90%, most failed GOWIPES against us are 50-70%)

I recently tried tweaking my GoWiPe army composition to make it a 3* strategy and it worked! Here's what I used:

3 golems
21 wizards
level 5 pekka in cc
8-10 wbs
a giant and archers for luring and for corner buildings
Spells; 2 rage 1 heal

Attack in the same way you would when doing a GoWiPe.

totally forgot to bring wbs... note to everyone.. wbs are very importantt must have them for gowipe... any type of gowipe lol...
totally forgot about wbs.. i am cooking more troops now to try this lol

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Originally Posted by Tyl3t

That's right do your normal GoWiPe and when troops are in or near the core deploy your hogs. And they will destroy remaining defences that are targeting Pekkas, golem etc.
if you feel you need more hogs remove some wiz. 👍

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totally forgot to bring wbs... note to everyone.. wbs are very importantt must have them for gowipe... any type of gowipe lol...
totally forgot about wbs.. i am cooking more troops now to try this lol

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Yeah wall breakers are very very very helpful. 😬

lol.. i was wondering why i had so many wizzies.. lol and then when i tried to go break the wall i was like wheres the wbs? lol.. im sure that person will share that replay with their clan..

u think this strategy will work with maxed th8?
thanks Tyl3t :)

-annie

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Yeah wall breakers are very very very helpful. 😬

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i have no idea why, but yet another two stars in war... and every time it's that nasty dragon in the cc..i have everything down but killing that dragon.. that dragon really screws me up...

HELP :facepalm:

OR is there another attack other than hogs or gowipe? it's that dragon every time... plus i have to deal with maxed th8 defenses gawd..


-annie

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

i have no idea why, but yet another two stars in war... and every time it's that nasty dragon in the cc..i have everything down but killing that dragon.. that dragon really screws me up...

HELP :facepalm:

OR is there another attack other than hogs or gowipe? it's that dragon every time... plus i have to deal with maxed th8 defenses gawd..


-annie

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Lure the cc with a few hogs use an archer to bring it over to corner and drop a few archers and wiz to kill drag.
Army comp:
2 Golem
1-2pekkas
5 hogs
1 giant
10 archers
5 wbs
10 wiz if u use 1 pekka use more wiz
Cc hogs
2heal 1 rage or 3 heal

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Originally Posted by DaenerysWawa

I've been having trouble recently GoWiPe'n in war. I cannot get a 3 star on a TH8. not sure where i am going wrong. can I get some advice from GoWiPe specialists please?

what I bring

2 Level2 Golems
1 Level3 Pekkas
2 Level2 Hogs to lure cc troops
5 level5 WBs
rest wizzies and a couple archers to top it off

CC Troop level 3 pekka or higher

2 Level5 Heal spells 1 rage (max) 1poison

I think my biggest problem is when i know theres a lvl 4 or higher dragon in the cc.. i get scared and not sure how i can successfully kill it. usually i lure it to a corner then send in my golem so it chases after my golem and then murder it from behind with the archers and wizzies. i think that's my problem then my golem dies too quick?

Looking forward to your advice and your gowipe attack strategy!

-annie

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I find the trouble with GoWiPe and also GoWiVa at TH8 is that they are having problems getting stuck taking down walls while remaining backside defenses are firing. I think it is best to choose to start the attack (Deploy your Golem spread) on the side which has the most defenses. So that side will be taken of early. Also, add in some Hogs or Loons into the mix to deal with backside defenses.

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Originally Posted by Tyl3t

Lure the cc with a few hogs use an archer to bring it over to corner and drop a few archers and wiz to kill drag.
Army comp:
2 Golem
1-2pekkas
5 hogs
1 giant
10 archers
5 wbs
10 wiz if u use 1 pekka use more wiz
Cc hogs
2heal 1 rage or 3 heal

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I would highly suggest the cc always be the pekka. Max pekka is a much more considerable increase in stats compared to max hogs. On top of this it limits your deployment options as 5 hogs are limited to the same drop spot. The option to deploy them surgically is a big boon, especially on the back end.

I use GoWiPeHo and had some great results. My army is
2 Golems
7 WBs
18 Wizards
1 P.E.K.K.A
4 Archers
5 hogs
1 P.E.K.K.A in CC

Do not lure CC troops. When troops enter the core they get high damage from opposite side, thats when u releasr hogs from the other side. This will work when all defences have targeted ur Golem or Pekka in core.