New Dark Troop - the Zeppelin

I propose a new dark troop - the Zeppelin. It would be an air troop, obviously. In the way that a wallbreaker rides a balloon, the goblin commands the Zeppelin.

This troop has an affinity for resource storages (but not collectors). It moves at a moderate pace, somewhat faster than a balloon, but it does take a long time to turn and change course.

The Zeppelin is unusual in that it doesn't actually do damage to resource storages. Instead, it drops a hose and suctions out the loot, leaving an empty but structurally sound storage building behind. It would take an average of about 10 seconds to clean out a storage building, plus or minus depending on the amount of loot rather than the hitpoints of the storage. The Zeppelin does no other damage to any buildings or troops.

The Zeppelin would have hitpoints somewhere between a Valkyrie and a Dragon depending on level, and take somewhere in the neighborhood of 12 housing space. If all storage buildings are emptied the Zeppelin will attempt to flee the battlefield via the nearest edge of the map. If the Zeppelin is shot down it will do splash damage to ground troops and buildings equal to its hitpoints.

The Zeppelin would take double damage from archer towers because those darned pointy arrows are so very sharp. Clearly you couldn't tank the Zeppelin or send it in alone or it would be shot to ribbons. Also, air defenses don't see the Zeppelin due to its shiny Mylar shield, and quite frankly because it doesn't pose an actual offensive threat. Therefore you couldn't use the Zeppelin as a cheap Lava Hound substitute to occupy AD.

The main uses would be as follows:

- Farming: if you can clear out the archer towers and some wizard towers/x-bows, or otherwise draw their fire, you can reach those secluded storages that were previously out of reach.

- War: the Zeppelin could potentially be used to lure the cc for some troop types, and also potentially lure some air mines in the process. The Zeppelin could also be a mini air tank for a while, if you are ok with your tank running away once the storages are destroyed.

All values and and peculiarities are open for debate.

You cant deplete a storage but not break it...

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Originally Posted by Thedolanizor

You cant deplete a storage but not break it...

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How nice. Thank you.

What would it do after all the resources are gone
and there is no real purpose to using this when you have goblins. It would be a very useless addition, as goblins do exactly what these would do, but 2x better

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Originally Posted by pikacu221

What would it do after all the resources are gone
and there is no real purpose to using this when you have goblins. It would be a very useless addition, as goblins do exactly what these would do, but 2x better

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Goblins are a ground troop and subject to cannon and mortar fire, as well as bombs and spring traps. Why do we need dragons when we already have wizards?

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Originally Posted by PvtLeeOwned

Goblins are a ground troop and subject to cannon and mortar fire, as well as bombs and spring traps. Why do we need dragons when we already have wizards?

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Your troop sounds a little OP to me. It cannot be targeted by Air Defenses. You eliminated the use for the Air Defense if this is an Air troop.
The idea of a troop taking resources, but not damage the structure, is very unbalanced, and make winning a raid more difficult. This troop will fly off the battle after stealing all the resources. Regular Goblins will not do that, why does a flying Goblin have to? I like the idea of an Air-Type resource collector, but I think it needs a few changes.
Suggestions:
-I'd like you to make this troop vulnerable to Air Defenses, like regular Goblins are to Cannon/Mortar fire.
-Make this troop deal damage to the storages/Collectors, or this troop is useless if we can't get percentage out of it.
-Eliminate the x2 damage from archer towers. There are plenty of them around in a base, and a few tank troops will not protect them.
-Make this troop target the Storages also and not just the collectors.
-Remove the feature explaining that this troop will leave the battle, no one wants a troop that can't finish a raid while alive...
-This is basically a goblin troop that flies. I suggest making the speed the same as a regular Goblin or Minion
-Lower the Hitpoints of this troop, by a lot... If we have a resource taking troop with over 1000 HP, then you have yourself a conflict.
-Eliminate the Splash damage effect when the troop dies. There doesn't seem to be anything about this troop that will have this feature make any sense.
-Lower the Housing Space to 2. Obviously this troop will be a bit bigger than a regular Goblin, and be able to fly and pass over walls to steal resources. We don't want this to be too high, or no one will use it. Goblins don't dish out a lot of damage to regular buildings, but they can do twice as much to resource buildings, which is enough.

I'd also like to see some troop compositions with this troop, and more strategies this could enable. It almost looks like you just put this idea together, with no other thoughts or comparisons with other troop capabilities.

We don't need new versions of already existing troops unless there Heros

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Your troop sounds a little OP to me. It cannot be targeted by Air Defenses. You eliminated the use for the Air Defense if this is an Air troop.
The idea of a troop taking resources, but not damage the structure, is very unbalanced, and make winning a raid more difficult. This troop will fly off the battle after stealing all the resources. Regular Goblins will not do that, why does a flying Goblin have to? I like the idea of an Air-Type resource collector, but I think it needs a few changes.
Suggestions:
-I'd like you to make this troop vulnerable to Air Defenses, like regular Goblins are to Cannon/Mortar fire.
-Make this troop deal damage to the storages/Collectors, or this troop is useless if we can't get percentage out of it.
-Eliminate the x2 damage from archer towers. There are plenty of them around in a base, and a few tank troops will not protect them.
-Make this troop target the Storages also and not just the collectors.
-Remove the feature explaining that this troop will leave the battle, no one wants a troop that can't finish a raid while alive...
-This is basically a goblin troop that flies. I suggest making the speed the same as a regular Goblin or Minion
-Lower the Hitpoints of this troop, by a lot... If we have a resource taking troop with over 1000 HP, then you have yourself a conflict.
-Eliminate the Splash damage effect when the troop dies. There doesn't seem to be anything about this troop that will have this feature make any sense.
-Lower the Housing Space to 2. Obviously this troop will be a bit bigger than a regular Goblin, and be able to fly and pass over walls to steal resources. We don't want this to be too high, or no one will use it. Goblins don't dish out a lot of damage to regular buildings, but they can do twice as much to resource buildings, which is enough.

I'd also like to see some troop compositions with this troop, and more strategies this could enable. It almost looks like you just put this idea together, with no other thoughts or comparisons with other troop capabilities.

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I appreciate all the thought you put into the feedback. My goals retrospectively were to:

- create a novel suggestion combining air and resources
- not have the unit be an air raid tank
- not have the unit augment other air attacks particularly well (respecting storages as shields for example)
- create some interesting new twists (suction hose and turning time)
- create an opportunity for a two-phase hybrid air/ground farming attack
- add troop similar in some respects to a healer with no offensive capability

Thats about it. Figuring the right values for HP, housing space, etc. is something I generalized about, but expect any new idea would be play-tested extensively. I'm not particularly married to any aspect of the proposal other than the character it creates which in my mind has a personality in the spirit of classic Clash perhaps more so than some of the more traditional fantasy characters commonly suggested such as wraiths, mages, etc - not that there is anything wrong with those kinds of suggestions.

I don't think it's useful troop. TH10 players wouldn't require it in a long term!

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Originally Posted by sujalthelost

I don't think it's useful troop. TH10 players wouldn't require it in a long term!

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TH10 players don't require anything but lava hounds and balloons, but I digress.

This idea is not intended to meet requirements or provide utility. This request is intended to bring enjoyment and fun by mixing up the game.