Upgrade Level 7 Walls With Elixir - Reasons Included

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August 9th, 2015
Gigatron0012

Upgrade Level 7 Walls With Elixir - Reasons Included

STOP THE GRIND FOR GOLD AT TH8

Now I know many have already posted this idea, but I would like to elaborate on why it would be beneficial to the game. As an early Town Hall 8 I rushed to collect tons of elixir and get the troop upgrades as fast as possible. But, near the end of my time as a TH8 I found I had no way to spend my elixir. The only thing I could spend elixir on was troops as I grinded for my level 8 walls. It got so bad that I almost stopped playing, it was an endless cycle of attacking, upgrading my walls for 0 XP, and repeating. I'm sure I am not the only one who had this elixir overflow, and that's why I think it would improve the game.

Gigatron0012
August 9th, 2015
AxionXD

Your excess elixir feeds the TH9 and TH10 above you.

When elixir for walls became a reality, level 8 was upgradable by Elixir. It was so terrible as a TH9, i couldn't find anyone with elixir and couldn't build armies anymore.

Elixir dried up that much, and with TH9 not having any, the TH10 certainly couldn't get any.

They reverted it to level 9 for elixir and it's been a decent balance.
August 9th, 2015
btcc1721

When you reach th9, you'll be glad of it.
August 10th, 2015
badfish1979

Sorry, but they're not going to add something back into the game that was already removed for causing too many problems.

If you've run out of things to spend your elixir on at TH8, you always have the option of upgrading to TH9 so you can spend all that elixir. Or you can stay at TH8 to enjoy the lower loot penalties and protections. But you can't have both.
August 10th, 2015
PvtLeeOwned

How about a compromise? How about for TH8 only, that once all Elixer upgrades and Elixer troop and spell research has been completed, then and only then will Level 8 walls be available via Elixer?

I know it's a little convoluted. It simply recognizes the reality that toward the (lengthy) end of TH8 there isn't much to do with Elixer. Most of the TH8's will continue to stockpile Elixer to fund the economy. It's just that last part that gets a little boost.

Yes, it's wonky. But so is the imbalance in the amount of resources demanded for maxing out TH8.

Just a thought trying to help a little without giving away too much.

And no, I did not overlook that this request was about level 7 walls. But hells-no to that. 200k is a drop in the ocean.
August 10th, 2015
Mobad

Apparently

It's th8s cross to bare that th9&10 must loot off of them.

What I don't get is why? Can't th9&10 raid off each other? If there is no elixer at th9&10 then they should take the wall upgrades with elixer away there too. Im th8 i raid on th8.

My walls at th8 are done. Been done for a while. I did a few a day just because I wanted them done. Now I'm finishing my last defense upgrades. Nothing to use elixer for excepte donate like hell. Sitting at maxed all the time. I used to put it outside beside my th but the damn th9&10s would still do a full on raid, so no more of that.
August 10th, 2015
PvtLeeOwned

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Originally Posted by Mobad

It's th8s cross to bare that th9&10 must loot off of them.

What I don't get is why? Can't th9&10 raid off each other? If there is no elixer at th9&10 then they should take the wall upgrades with elixer away there too. Im th8 i raid on th8.

My walls at th8 are done. Been done for a while. I did a few a day just because I wanted them done. Now I'm finishing my last defense upgrades. Nothing to use elixer for excepte donate like hell. Sitting at maxed all the time. I used to put it outside beside my th but the damn th9&10s would still do a full on raid, so no more of that.

First, th9 and 10's do feed off each other and in great quantities. When things start to cost 6 million and youR storage exposure is 350 to 400k you can bet that they do.

However, there is the big fish issue as well. All TH's feed well off the TH immediately below them.

Everyone can execute a strategy to mitigate their exposure. Most sensible folks don't accumulate large quantities of all three resources. TH8's can do lots of things to get by. I maxed TH8 a few months ago before becoming TH9 and can say from experience that it's not as big a deal as people are making it out to be. 500k in TH8 gold (the cost of a level 8 wall) only has 90k exposure to a TH9 raid. It can be overcome.
August 10th, 2015
daz258

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Originally Posted by Gigatron0012

STOP THE GRIND FOR GOLD AT TH8

Now I know many have already posted this idea, but I would like to elaborate on why it would be beneficial to the game. As an early Town Hall 8 I rushed to collect tons of elixir and get the troop upgrades as fast as possible. But, near the end of my time as a TH8 I found I had no way to spend my elixir. The only thing I could spend elixir on was troops as I grinded for my level 8 walls. It got so bad that I almost stopped playing, it was an endless cycle of attacking, upgrading my walls for 0 XP, and repeating. I'm sure I am not the only one who had this elixir overflow, and that's why I think it would improve the game.

Gigatron0012

Then just upgrade to TH9. Walls are overrated anyway.
August 10th, 2015
Sman808

I don't like not being able to do anything my elixir either, but it supplies the TH9s above us, like people said above.
August 10th, 2015
Lavaclaw

Just a tip:
When that happened to me, I just spent my elixer on loonion. I was averaging 150 - 200k gold per raid before I upgraded to TH9.
August 10th, 2015
Birdcraft

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Originally Posted by PvtLeeOwned

First, th9 and 10's do feed off each other and in great quantities. When things start to cost 6 million and youR storage exposure is 350 to 400k you can bet that they do.

However, there is the big fish issue as well. All TH's feed well off the TH immediately below them.

Everyone can execute a strategy to mitigate their exposure. Most sensible folks don't accumulate large quantities of all three resources. TH8's can do lots of things to get by. I maxed TH8 a few months ago before becoming TH9 and can say from experience that it's not as big a deal as people are making it out to be. 500k in TH8 gold (the cost of a level 8 wall) only has 90k exposure to a TH9 raid. It can be overcome.

Funny I constantly get hit by th9 and th10s for very very little gold. I never keep more than the cost of one wall in my storages. as soon as I get it I spend it. I too used to put my elixir storages outside with my th, but the dirty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s would do a full on raid to get less than 1000 DE. More often than not it was less than 500. I give them free loot and they act like jerks.

Also it's not all big fish little fish out there. I'm a not quit mid level Th8. When I was about mid level th7 I started raiding th8s. Since I got to th8 I don't believe I have ever raided more than a couple of th7 or ever lower. Those th7s were surely abandoned as all the loot was in their collectors. I've also hit th9/10 for their collector loot. Obviously I cannot get to their completely full storages that for some reason always stay full. Normally will loose trophies as they generally have their th trapped, but no biggie.
August 10th, 2015
wizardsfury

So worried about overflowing? Just donate troops to your clan mates pekka or dragon every time or get lvl 8 walls soon.

No use of whining here.
August 10th, 2015
ColonelAwesome

NO. This will NOT be added again. I CANNOT believe there are still people thinking that this is a good idea. It was removed from the game a month after it was added. It's not going to be added again, buddy. Deal with it. Upgrade your walls with gold like everybody else
August 13th, 2015
Gigatron0012

Well, there's been a lot of backlash here. I mean, I just don't like sitting on 5.5 million elixir all the time. But, I can see how it helps the economy.
August 13th, 2015
Krizz02

Just waste it

I just raid like I'm not full and waste it. Make it a point to waste it. I will attack someone with 300k Elixer even if I'm full just to waste it and prove a point. We are not here to feed th9 and 10. Make them attack only th9 and th10 easy fix.
August 13th, 2015
Weston19

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Originally Posted by Krizz02

We are not here to feed th9 and 10. Make them attack only th9 and th10 easy fix.

OK, so now TH8 can only attack TH8. And TH7 can only attack TH7. You close off the meta-economy into 9 smaller economies. I wonder how that will work out.

Maybe you dont understand economics. But maybe you will understand a food chain. The bigger you are, the more you eat.
August 13th, 2015
awesomness2016

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Originally Posted by PvtLeeOwned

How about a compromise? How about for TH8 only, that once all Elixer upgrades and Elixer troop and spell research has been completed, then and only then will Level 8 walls be available via Elixer?

No, that does not solve the problem as it still creates a large group of people that never have more than 500k in they storages for long periods of time, so they're not worth attacking...the people attacking them may actually lose elixir by doing so. When you have to save up 1m to upgrade a wall, at least you have a fair amount of elixir a decent amount of time.

There are really only 2 possible solutions: give TH8s the option of upgrading walls to L9, or make them have a minimum of 1m in elixir in their storage before they can use it to purchase a wall (the wall can still cost 500k).
August 13th, 2015
awesomness2016

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

I CANNOT believe there are still people thinking that this is a good idea.

...There will always be TH8s that think of nothing other than their current situation.

And to the person who said THs should only be able to attack the same TH, first, you'd make the game impossible for anyone who rushed, and second I guess you haven't experienced early stage TH9 or 10 yet? It takes a while when you first move up to upgrade your offense to the point where you can consistently raid other THs at your level successfully.
August 13th, 2015
Nolanvw

I as a th8 have realized this too. But it wouldn't be good for the th9s. But trust me, if I had the ability to delete loot, I would. But I guess that would be bad too.