New Dark Troop - The Agent!

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Originally Posted by Livvyboss

Thanks :thumbsup:



What don't you like about it heading for traps? The group of rats is always going to die after encountering 1 or 2 traps, and possibly even on the way to setting them off. A th9 has 26 traps. Assuming the rats set off an average of 1 trap per release, it would take 260 seconds to set the all off. The battle time is 3 minutes, or 180 seconds which means that even if the agent somehow survived the whole battle, there's no way they could set off all the traps by themselves.

And with the rats having only 90HP, if the nearest trap is on the opposite side of the base chances are they will die on the way.

Making the rats target defences completely changes the entire idea of the troop. Also, with a low dps, the rats would just get stuck on the first defence they go to, never destroy it so never getting the chance to set off traps.

Thanks for the feedback though :)

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I don't like taking the surprise factor away from a trap. Just seems... un trap like?

Since you suggest taking 3 of these guys in to battle (which I think most people would do), cut that time in 3 and you're looking at a little over a minute

Not to mention most traps are doubled up making that time even less..

At 90 HP (unless your defenses are maxed) it takes 2 shots from any single target to kill 1 rat. There's 20
At 32 movement speed, a mortar will probably never hit these guys

Get a golem close enough to distract a base and there's nothing stopping these guys from completely clearing out a base


Edit: And yes, my suggestion would call for something else to destroy the defense before the rats can move on but I think that's a pretty good balance. Most traps are placed near defenses any way

A bit OP...............

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Originally Posted by Jahboy777

I don't like taking the surprise factor away from a trap. Just seems... un trap like?

Since you suggest taking 3 of these guys in to battle (which I think most people would do), cut that time in 3 and you're looking at a little over a minute

Not to mention most traps are doubled up making that time even less..

At 90 HP (unless your defenses are maxed) it takes 2 shots from any single target to kill 1 rat. There's 20
At 32 movement speed, a mortar will probably never hit these guys

Get a golem close enough to distract a base and there's nothing stopping these guys from completely clearing out a base


Edit: And yes, my suggestion would call for something else to destroy the defense before the rats can move on but I think that's a pretty good balance. Most traps are placed near defenses any way

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Ok I will lower the movement speed to 26, lower the rat HP to 80 and lower the agent HP. The rats will also die after they hit a trap in most cases. The rats will have to run to opposite sides of the bases sometimes as well, which will get then targeted by defences.

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Originally Posted by Antdroid

A bit OP...............

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See above, I've done more nurfing :)

Yes!! This is much better than when you VMed me, probably because of the amount of detail you have put into it! Nice title pic btw:smirk:

Making the troop deploy rats every x seconds is better than deploying rats when it is near a trap, so well done on that:o

Stats are balanced, you have my seal of approval:o

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Originally Posted by Livvyboss

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THREAD STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Introduction
Hello all, this is my first troop idea thread so any feedback, positive or negative, is appreciated. I’d also like to thank TheOneTheyCallSmasher and AnthonyVince for helping out with statistics. So let’s get started! Presenting you…

THE AGENT!

I know what you’re thinking. “Oh, it’s another one of those spy troops which shows you trap locations via the visit button…” But it isn’t! In this thread I will go into great detail about the troop, its statistics and attack and defence strategies that would now be introduced. WARNING- Long thread!

Backstory
Have you ever wondered where all the male villagers are? And why only the women are seen roaming around our bases? Recent exploration has discovered something truly mind-blowing. Lairs, spies, secret HQs, agents… don’t forget the rats! Spying on others, these mischievous males can ensure their defence and offence are up to scratch with the rest of the clash population… No wonder our bases are near to identical…

The Basics
The agent releases rats that head straight for traps, while dealing damage of its own to surrounding buildings.

This dark elixir troop releases groups of rats every ten seconds. These rats head straight for the nearest trap in an attempt to set it off, however they may not always make it! Scurrying over walls and using parachutes to hit the air traps, these rats can do it all. The Agent also deals considerable damage to buildings, with no favourite target.
NOTE: To avoid lag, a maximum of 20 rats are allowed to be present at a time. The agent will wait until he can release a full group of rats.
NOTE 2: The rats stay at the location of the trap until it is set off and the damage has been dealt.

Statistics
Agent-General
Favourite Target- None
Damage Type- Single Target, not ranged, ground and air
Targets-Ground
Housing Space- 10
Training Time- 6 minutes
Movement Speed- 18
Attack Speed- 2 seconds
Unlocked-Dark barracks lvl 3, th7 (1,500,000 elixir, 5 days 12 hrs)

Agent-Upgrades

Level	Damage Per Second	Damage Per Attack	Number of rats per 10 seconds	Hitpoints	Training Cost(DE)	Research Cost (DE)	Lab level required	Research Time
1	50	100	4	500	110	N/A	N/A	N/A
2	60	120	4	600	130	30,000	5	8 days
3	70	140	5	700	145	40,000	6	10 days
4	85	170	5	850	160	60,000	7	12 days
5	100	200	6	1000	175	80,000	8	14 days

Rats
HP-80
Favourite Target- Traps (ground and air), PLEASE NOTE: This does not include teslas
Damage- None
Movement Speed- 26

Attacking Strategies

• You should always bring about three of these agents with you, in order to cover as much of the base as possible
• Do not place the Agents all in the same place, as this means the rats will struggle to set off traps on the opposite side of the base
• They should not be placed as a tanker troop, as they have fairly low HP
• I would personally not recommend using Agents in a primarily air attack as ground only defences would take them out immediately
• Virtually any ground attack would seriously benefit from Agents helping out

Armies including The Agent

HogAg– WAR - Deploy an Agent near possible double giant bomb locations to set them off before the hogs hit them

GoWiPe/GoWiWi/GoWiVa/any other variant – WAR - Agents mixed in with your army will prevent your vulnerable wizards, witches and valkyries from dying due to traps

Barch and similar strategies – FARM – Add a couple of Agents into this army to prevent large groups of your low HP barbarians and archers disappearing fromone giant bomb

Defence Strategies
There’s not really much to say here, other than keep your traps spread out to maximise the possibility that the rats will die on the way, and keep your most vital traps such as giant bombs centralised.

In your Clan Castle
This troop could work fairly well in your clan castle, with the rats distracting while the Agent attacks. Remember however that these rats are very well tamed so do no damage!

Trivia

• The rats are the fastest troop in the game
• Rats are the only trap targeting troop
• Rats are the only troop that can be both ground and air
• You can fit 24 Agents into maxed out army camps, increasing to 27 if you include the 3 that can fit into a lvl 5 or 6 clan castle
• A max agent will spawn 108 rats if it were to stay alive for the full 3 minute battle

FAQ
Here are some questions that might/have been asked:

What do the rats do after all traps have been set off?
The Agent will stop spawning rats but will carry on attacking as usual. Any surviving rats will “die”.

Isn’t this basically a witch?
No,witches do less damage, have less HP and they can attack through walls. Their skeletons also do damage to the nearest building, whereas rats do no damage and head straight for traps.

This is way too OP as all the traps will be set off...
This is not true for the following reasons:

• The Agent has a fairly low HP so is not invincible to being attacked, therefore could die straight away
• The likely hood that rats can make it to the opposite side of the base on 80HP is near to 0
• Rats running into a big bomb, spring trap or air bomb will automatically die so would only set off one trap
• When the rats reach a trap they must wait there until it is set off and damage is dealt so can only set off a singular trap at a time

Conclusion
If you read all this, thank you so much! I have spent a lot of time planning and making this thread and would really appreciate any comments or suggestions you have about the troop or the thread.

How can I help?

• Suggestions to make this troop more balanced
• Ideas you have for strategies this could enable
• Ideas you have for setting up your base to defend this unit
• Description suggestions
• Questions about how this troop works
• Explain why you do or don’t like this troop

Again, please comment, vote on the poll and give all the feedback you can! This is how Supercell will notice the idea and hopefully add it to the game.
Many thanks, Livvy

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Pretty good idea, but I disagree with your FAQ. I feel that this idea is just a stronger Witch. It needs something to set it apart, like when the rats trigger a bomb, it causes it to damage the buildings in it's range, or something like that.

Voted that I like it, because I'm sure that I will if you DO change it.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Yes!! This is much better than when you VMed me, probably because of the amount of detail you have put into it! Nice title pic btw:smirk:

Making the troop deploy rats every x seconds is better than deploying rats when it is near a trap, so well done on that:o

Stats are balanced, you have my seal of approval:o

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Thanks :o What I VMed you was just the basics as I couldn't be bothered to type up the entire thing :smirk:

Yes, I realised it would be a bit rubbish as the troop would hardly go near any traps so wouldn't set them off :unsure:

And yay! Thanks again:)

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Originally Posted by Theking8133

Pretty good idea, but I disagree with your FAQ. I feel that this idea is just a stronger Witch. It needs something to set it apart, like when the rats trigger a bomb, it causes it to damage the buildings in it's range, or something like that.

Voted that I like it, because I'm sure that I will if you DO change it.

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This is a pretty good idea, I'm just concerned about it being too OP... Would it be too OP if the bombs and giant bombs dealt damage to both the rats AND all the surrounding buildings within the range (with the full damage)?

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Originally Posted by Livvyboss

Thanks :o What I VMed you was just the basics as I couldn't be bothered to type up the entire thing :smirk:

Yes, I realised it would be a bit rubbish as the troop would hardly go near any traps so wouldn't set them off :unsure:

And yay! Thanks again:)


This is a pretty good idea, I'm just concerned about it being too OP... Would it be too OP if the bombs and giant bombs dealt damage to both the rats AND all the surrounding buildings within the range (with the full damage)?

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It would hardly make any difference as bombs aren't usually close enough to building for the buildings to be in range with them. If anything, it would be difficult to implement.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

It would hardly make any difference as bombs aren't usually close enough to building for the buildings to be in range with them. If anything, it would be difficult to implement.

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In most bases bombs are snugly tucked in between two buildings, so would damage them and possibly other buildings/walls

Rats should only be growing and only set off ground traps, the flying rat idea is just plain weird.

Nice idea!

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Originally Posted by Jackdopp

Rats should only be growing and only set off ground traps, the flying rat idea is just plain weird.

Nice idea!

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Its not a flying rat, it's a rat with a parachute on :smirk: