Th10? No th9s in my clan want it

Sure it's fun in multi to send 10 lvl7 Giants and the rest lvl 7barch and take th9s for all they are worth, but it war... Th10's mostly just Gowipe. They just do it with *slightly* stronger troops. Only 1 th9 in our clan is even considering th10.
the creativivity allowed a th9 is gone. Yes, you can hit a low th10 on single inferno with hogs... But it is mostly Gowipe, gowipe , gowipe Gowipe. Loons occasionally.
i am getting bored watching th10s bum rush th and then snipe edges. Th10 is about heroes, another reason why we all are waiting. And since we can't war while upgrading heroes and all love to war, we'd rather just war than sit out.bAnd since war is so ***hugely** de negative, it takes us 4x longer to upgrade heroes.
**new multi matching means that a new th10, with th9 troops will have to gain massive elixer from a search that is mostly th10s** and our th10s can't war til some massive elixer farming has been accomplished. I personally don't want to go thru it, IMO the new multi matching has ruined the game.
why go to th10 when you can already Gowipe in th9? There are no new troops in th10 to look forward to, just a freeze spell. But if a th10 takes 2, they are actually losing a spell from th9.
I'm not a trophy hound. we've had th10s in Champion that can't war worth #%£¥ .
Supercell needs to give th10 a new troops that th9s can't have. Maybe something that just works against infernos so they can't use it against us, but something that makes th10 so cool, ppl are compelled to go there.
they need to fix multi matching so a new th9, th10 can get the rss they need to start warring.
Supercell needs to understand that ppl who war every other day don't have the time or inclination to trophy push in multi. They have a different proving ground.

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Originally Posted by Freyja1

And since we can't war while upgrading heroes and all love to war, we'd rather just war than sit out.bAnd since war is so ***hugely** de negative, it takes us 4x longer to upgrade heroes.

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This is an attitude that really just needs to change. You can war without heroes. I did it non-stop for months. Now I am a TH9 with level 30 heroes which is a ton of fun. I understand that when you are working on your heroes you need all your DE for the hero upgrades which is why you should war with 100% elixir based armies. Clans need to understand that upgrading your heroes is an investment in your power and it is worth having people in your war that are missing heroes so they can do more for your clan in the future.

Losing a large war is worth more clan experience than winning a small one so the goal should always be to have the largest war possible. Make sure everyone uses both attacks each war and you should be able to get most of the clan experience.

I am about to go to TH10 myself and the answer to the elixir problem is head up to champs 3. I am a TH9 hanging out around 3200 trophies now and the league bonus makes elixir no problem at all. You just have to be able to get a star and your loot intake will be fine.

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Originally Posted by erethizon

This is an attitude that really just needs to change. You can war without heroes. I did it non-stop for months. Now I am a TH9 with level 30 heroes which is a ton of fun. I understand that when you are working on your heroes you need all your DE for the hero upgrades which is why you should war with 100% elixir based armies. Clans need to understand that upgrading your heroes is an investment in your power and it is worth having people in your war that are missing heroes so they can do more for your clan in the future.

Losing a large war is worth more clan experience than winning a small one so the goal should always be to have the largest war possible. Make sure everyone uses both attacks each war and you should be able to get most of the clan experience.

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we win our wars. And I've have seen so many hits that were one or two stars that could have been 2 or 3 if they had heroes. This game needs both heroes.
our clan doesn't lose war after war for clan experience, we are a lvl 6 clan and no one goes to war for losing war loot. Winning war loot doesn't even cover the de cost of 2 th9 war hits. And who wants to lose all the time?!
we don't win every single war, but we works towards doing so. One big reason is that we don't let ppl war without both heroes. And we are a team who supports eachother.
Our warring ways don't need change, they fit how Supercell made the game.
supercell needs to change.
boost on heroes while sleeping so they can war
new troops just for th10
multi matching that makes sense.
quit telling pp, to snipe ths for bad loot bonuses. What a boring way to play the game.

You will start facing th10s as you get nearer to max th9. That's why I upgraded. Just don't go crazy building infernos and new defenses, until you level up your offense.

My clan is more than 1000 experience into rank 7. We win most of our wars (because we insist that every player use both attacks). Out of our last 50 wars we won 30, lost 18, and tied twice. Your war record is probably better than ours, but we are a higher rank clan.

You are right that you don't "need" to change your war strategy, but it sounds like it is not working out that well for you. Your clan is lower in rank than it could be and you can't war without your heroes. Sounds like a lose-lose situation. Winning is not everything. It is not even particularly important. You don't even have to lose resources in war if you choose not to use overly expensive troops. It is quite reasonable for a TH9 to get over 400k in elixir when you combine the war bonus for losing the war plus what you get out of the elixir storages in the two war attacks (in reality you probably get more than 400k, but I am trying to keep it low on purpose). This means you can spend 200k elixir on your war army for each attack and still break even on elixir while profiting on both gold and DE (since you didn't spend any).

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Originally Posted by erethizon

My clan is more than 1000 experience into rank 7. We win most of our wars (because we insist that every player use both attacks). Out of our last 50 wars we won 30, lost 18, and tied twice. Your war record is probably better than ours, but we are a higher rank clan.

You are right that you don't "need" to change your war strategy, but it sounds like it is not working out that well for you. Your clan is lower in rank than it could be and you can't war without your heroes. Sounds like a lose-lose situation. Winning is not everything. It is not even particularly important. You don't even have to lose resources in war if you choose not to use overly expensive troops. It is quite reasonable for a TH9 to get over 400k in elixir when you combine the war bonus for losing the war plus what you get out of the elixir storages in the two war attacks (in reality you probably get more than 400k, but I am trying to keep it low on purpose). This means you can spend 200k elixir on your war army for each attack and still break even on elixir while profiting on both gold and DE (since you didn't spend any).

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You can only 3 star with a giant/wi on new th9s.
We push ourselves. We play the game hard. We try to learn as much about winning war ways as possible. I love my clan. If it weren't for how my clan played the game, I would have quit this game a long time ago.
my goal is to 3 star max th9s 50% of the time. I can 3 star almost all low th9s , about 50% of mid and right now maybe 15% of high. But it's possible with the right attacks. It's figuring those attacks out that is what is fun about the game for me.
i love warring and only play this game for war. And yes winning is important! Clans fall apart for having a losing record.m losing war loot sucks. No one wants to be a part of a losing war clan.
You can only break even on dewar at max th9 if you do a 2 golem gowipe. That is not going to get you the 3 star. We play to get the 3 star, the way Supercell designed the game.
there is no war ranking , it's all based on trophies, and most of us don't trophy push, we just play to war. I don't even understand trophy pushing, frankly. Those that do it have no time for war. Feel sorry for the th10's waiting on 5 spells to finish when pushing. All ppl in our clan find war more rewarding than pushing.
i don't even hit other th9s in multi when aq is asleep, who would war with no aq? What planet do yall live on? Lol

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Originally Posted by erethizon

This is an attitude that really just needs to change. You can war without heroes. I did it non-stop for months. Now I am a TH9 with level 30 heroes which is a ton of fun. I understand that when you are working on your heroes you need all your DE for the hero upgrades which is why you should war with 100% elixir based armies. Clans need to understand that upgrading your heroes is an investment in your power and it is worth having people in your war that are missing heroes so they can do more for your clan in the future.

Losing a large war is worth more clan experience than winning a small one so the goal should always be to have the largest war possible. Make sure everyone uses both attacks each war and you should be able to get most of the clan experience.

I am about to go to TH10 myself and the answer to the elixir problem is head up to champs 3. I am a TH9 hanging out around 3200 trophies now and the league bonus makes elixir no problem at all. You just have to be able to get a star and your loot intake will be fine.

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there is a ton of truth to the above.


to the OP, not all th10's GoWiPe! There is 5 golem, 7 golem, mass witch, lavaloonion, various Valkyrie armies and yes I have even seen hog!

you are right though heros are where the power is at. Though it's probably better to learn how to raid without them rather than insisting on always using them

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Originally Posted by Camja11

there is a ton of truth to the above.


to the OP, not all th10's GoWiPe! There is 5 golem, 7 golem, mass witch, lavaloonion, various Valkyrie armies and yes I have even seen hog!

you are right though heros are where the power is at. Though it's probably better to learn how to raid without them rather than insisting on always using them

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i have seen a fantastic 3 star hog attack against a low th10 single inferno, by one of our own th10s, a fantastic clasher. He also did great loon attacks. But he is a very rare breed.
You can not do a golava without both heroes. Can't can't can't. The attack is designed to have both .

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Originally Posted by Freyja1

Sure it's fun in multi to send 10 lvl7 Giants and the rest lvl 7barch and take th9s for all they are worth, but it war... Th10's mostly just Gowipe. They just do it with *slightly* stronger troops. Only 1 th9 in our clan is even considering th10.
the creativivity allowed a th9 is gone. Yes, you can hit a low th10 on single inferno with hogs... But it is mostly Gowipe, gowipe , gowipe Gowipe. Loons occasionally.
i am getting bored watching th10s bum rush th and then snipe edges. Th10 is about heroes, another reason why we all are waiting. And since we can't war while upgrading heroes and all love to war, we'd rather just war than sit out.bAnd since war is so ***hugely** de negative, it takes us 4x longer to upgrade heroes.
**new multi matching means that a new th10, with th9 troops will have to gain massive elixer from a search that is mostly th10s** and our th10s can't war til some massive elixer farming has been accomplished. I personally don't want to go thru it, IMO the new multi matching has ruined the game.
why go to th10 when you can already Gowipe in th9? There are no new troops in th10 to look forward to, just a freeze spell. But if a th10 takes 2, they are actually losing a spell from th9.
I'm not a trophy hound. we've had th10s in Champion that can't war worth #%£¥ .
Supercell needs to give th10 a new troops that th9s can't have. Maybe something that just works against infernos so they can't use it against us, but something that makes th10 so cool, ppl are compelled to go there.
they need to fix multi matching so a new th9, th10 can get the rss they need to start warring.
Supercell needs to understand that ppl who war every other day don't have the time or inclination to trophy push in multi. They have a different proving ground.

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I have to say I agree, and that's why I also have a TH9 account, its more balanced, I have way more fun in wars as I have several three star strategies that I can utilize. I always found TH10 to be nothing but madness. We get the same level hogs,valks,witch and Loons as TH9, 1 lvl on the golem and other troops are insignificant compared to the two additional levels on archer towers and cannons, additional xbow, two inferno towers(with one additional spell slot to counter it) plus additional traps. Bleh I use my TH9 to hit th10s for 2 stars then bully TH9s with my TH10 for tripples.

That is a very short sighted view of the game.

There are still a few slots in the dark barracks and dark spells factory which have coming soon which one would assume at least a couple of the slots are reserved for TH10. I'm sure these will change up the attack strats somewhat.

Added to this we just got 3 new spells which I am sure once they are maxed people will probably start experimenting with them en masse which may result in new attack strats.

And the meta is ever changing from each update/nerf.

If you remember back to the inception of clan wars, the biggest army out for TH9 was hogs, then it switched GoWiXx, loonions, then laloonions now it is GoHo, GoVaLo, GoLaLo, GoLo, HoLo.... surgical hogs... and who knows what someone else will come up with.

So who knows what the future of TH10 attack strats, maybe after one or two new dark troops GoWiPe will be a thing of the past for TH10.