Low Hall High Trophies

Today I upgraded from TH4. I had 1893 trophies when the upgrade completed. Goes to show that you can get decent amount of trophies without upgrading your hall too early. Anyone can get to about 1800, after that it gets trickier. And likely a sort ceiling around 2k. I'm sure I could have in the 2000s at th4 if I had started trying earlier. Also if you keep your trophies high to your level it is great for farming. With every base being +2th you get +200% resources and much less lost in lost defenses (which you will lose all defenses lol). With this bonus collectors can give 50k at many bases. It is annoying when you get revenged for -58 or -57 trophies after moving up quickly though. I am now over 2k trophies (although I will probably lose a defense and drop back under temporarily). If you don't believe me, I don't care. My nick is Bakes in the clan Money Team 187 if you want to look me up.

2000 trophies at TH5? That's straight out awesome. :cool:

There's a high amount of farmers with their TH's outside under 2000 to get the trophie up. Above 2000 is another story and you're going to have a hard time using such low level troops.

Facescraper,

Completely agree. I expect to stagnate in the 2000s till I can get level 4 troops, which will be awhile. Unprotected THs were very rare at 1800+ which is why it becomes vastly more difficult. I had to be a bit more crafty to take on lightly defended THs in the last 200 with only 70 level 2 troops. But I think it would be wise for some of the premature TH 6-8 to raise their trophies to farm off of TH9 and 10s. Don't need to get to storages just collectors, the bonus does the rest.

I think this is a good criticism about balancing: there's way too much junk to build and not enough to defend it that you can lose almost guaranteed just by losing whats outside the walls.

Im fairly certain this could not be possible if a vault-style base was feasible.

A vault at that low of a TH is only viable if you raid enough to recoup your losses. Cause you don't have enough walls at that level to fully protect your vault + prevent 50% wins.

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Originally Posted by the8thark

A vault at that low of a TH is only viable if you raid enough to recoup your losses. Cause you don't have enough walls at that level to fully protect your vault + prevent 50% wins.

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I meant: he got that high probably by just getting 50% victories only on things that are outside the walls. If vault-style bases were feasible, then he couldn't have gotten that high as less than 50% would be outside.

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Originally Posted by Superhal

I meant: he got that high probably by just getting 50% victories only on things that are outside the walls. If vault-style bases were feasible, then he couldn't have gotten that high as less than 50% would be outside.

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They are viable but you need TH9+ to make them shine. At his TH level you're right.

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Originally Posted by the8thark

They are viable but you need TH9+ to make them shine. At his TH level you're right.

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Really? I haven't seen one in ages. I usually look at the top 10 or so players and they put nearly everything outside. I was rather shocked my first week here to see vizia and jorge putting their storages outside the walls.

Since the last update, the top players have put only th and a few defensive buildings in the center of like 4 rings of walls with everything else outside.

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Originally Posted by Superhal

Really? I haven't seen one in ages. I usually look at the top 10 or so players and they put nearly everything outside. I was rather shocked my first week here to see vizia and jorge putting their storages outside the walls.

Since the last update, the top players have put only th and a few defensive buildings in the center of like 4 rings of walls with everything else outside.

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Yes I agree with you. But the top players don't have to save up for things and risk raids farming their storages. Cause they gem everything. We who don't gem a lot have to defend our storages at least a little.

thats insane.... i once saw a lvl38 TH6 no walls in master league(probs a ******)

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Originally Posted by the8thark

Yes I agree with you. But the top players don't have to save up for things and risk raids farming their storages. Cause they gem everything. We who don't gem a lot have to defend our storages at least a little.

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Can you refer me to a couple I can look at? I'm curious to see how they make it work. :)

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Originally Posted by Superhal

Can you refer me to a couple I can look at? I'm curious to see how they make it work. :)

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Anyone on the top 25 will kick their storages out. Even maybe the top 50