What about a TPS CoC?

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July 31st, 2015
CricetoMannaro

What about a TPS CoC?

Hi guys i subbed on the official forum to share an idea.
I already posted it on the biggest italian forum.Here i recieved a lot of agreements so i would like to say what i thought.
My idea is a new game about clash of clans,not a mobile game but a game for console and PC.
A TPS with CoC characters,something like Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare,a new game totally different from the past games made by PopCap tipically flat and mobile based.
They started with this
http://static-www.ecs.popcap.com/www...1/pvz1_ss1.jpg
And they reached this result
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYjUrHOY7A4
This is a draft of what i had already written on the italian forum:
-The game is based on multiplayer
-Two teams made of 20 players each
-Everybody can choose a troop to use for himself
-The team win when it reach and destroy the enemy town hall
-You can help team mates throwing spells like fury to defeat the enemies easily
-The spells will be rechargeable,it depends from the number of kills.
-There will be two starter troops:Barbarian and Archer,the other will be unlockable doing achievements
-You can play as a troop of the castle with you friends against bots.
-Not really sure about it but i think it can be a pretty good thing collecting exp winning battles to improve your ability(like power,life,speed...)
I hope you'll understand my idea and,why not,make it real .
Please share with me what you think.
Ask me if it's not clear,i'm here to answer you :D
July 31st, 2015
xGioGio35

I came from the italian forum too!
The CricetoMannaro's idea was amazing, so i adviced him to write his idea here, and we would like to know what do you think about that :)

Anyway, i think the development of a totally new version of CoC for PC and PS consoles would make a lot of sells!
Imagine it, a CoC TPS 3D
Why wouldn't you make it?
Think about that in CoC you can't add things forever, so there is the revolution! :D
July 31st, 2015
Radiating

I don't think clash of clans is willing to take that direction. While this is a decent idea, I think it'd be too hard to make when there's already things to work on that'd already improve the game.
July 31st, 2015
xGioGio35

Yes, it will be a challenge, but Supercell can't add things forever on CoC. So we(all italy fan forum members :') )think that it need an evolution maybe like this. Or not? It isn't the time to take a step forward? A real step?
July 31st, 2015
Radiating

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Originally Posted by xGioGio35

Yes, it will be a challenge, but Supercell can't add things forever on CoC. So we(all italy fan forum members :') )think that it need an evolution maybe like this. Or not? It isn't the time to take a step forward? A real step?

Eventually, they might do this. But IMO "a step forward", a bigger step, even, will be quests, and not some different gamemode. CWs already exist as another gamemode.
July 31st, 2015
xGioGio35

But we're not talking about a new gamemode. We're talking about the development of a totally new game of Clash of Clans. (Just as Garden Warfare) because a TPS like we told it's impossible to implement in the arleady existing mobile version.
Think about it, for consoles or PC, it isn't good? :D
July 31st, 2015
Radiating

Quote:

Originally Posted by xGioGio35

Think about it, for consoles or PC, it isn't good? :D

That's ruled out. And also I see no reason for SC to expand if they're already seeing major success.
July 31st, 2015
xGioGio35

The question is: why not?
Anyway i'd like to know what other members and staffers think..
July 31st, 2015
Radiating

Quote:

Originally Posted by xGioGio35

The question is: why not?
Anyway i'd like to know what other members and staffers think..

First off other platforms are not as secure.

Second, it's an unneeded business risk.
July 31st, 2015
AxionXD

First, this may violate forum rules of discussing/advertising a competitors game....

PopCap has over 400 employees and develops games specifically for Smartphones, Tablets, PCs and all variations of Consoles. I also believe EA bought them out back in 2011, so they have a massive development and programming resources for those platforms just from their association and ownership of EA. http://www.geekwire.com/2011/breakin...ap-13-billion/

I can't find any updated numbers, but PopCap only revenued $100 million in 2010. From scattered reports, it doesn't look like their combined revenue is anywhere near on par with Supercell.

Supercell has a small group (150 employees) and has a primary focus on mobile gaming development. With that small overhead and support, they were able to revenue almost $900 million in 2014 with massive profit margins.

To be able to make that level of revenue with minimal overhead would be the dream of ANY CEO or investor. Now that they have SoftBank as 51% owners of Supercell, profitability versus overhead is important. Should they risk millions to develop a PC/Console clash of clan game third person shooter or continue reaping massive profits and low expenses?

So depending on how good of a quality you would want this new PC/Console game to be... this seemed like a decent guide to how much developing PC/Console games costs.... not to mention many games take years to develop and almost as long in Alpha/Beta testing...
http://www.quora.com/How-much-does-i...p-a-video-game
July 31st, 2015
Frosticewolf

I think this would be extremely hard to code and take a long time. I also think supercell is gonna stick to mobile games.....for now.
July 31st, 2015
CricetoMannaro

Guys,i think that Supercell can't continue only upgrading the same CoC.
Probably the "risk" of making a new videogame it's not needed,but it has no sense developing only one game.
Everything is based on the risk.
Example:A greengrocer wants to expand his activity,what do you think he would do?Buying higher quality fruits or sell forever the same fruits like in the past?
Now it's only an idea,don't judge it looking only at the cost of the operation,probably supercell will be bigger than now when this project will be considered.
July 31st, 2015
Radiating

Quote:

Originally Posted by CricetoMannaro

Guys,i think that Supercell can't continue only upgrading the same CoC.
Probably the "risk" of making a new videogame it's not needed,but it has no sense developing only one game.
Everything is based on the risk.
Example:A greengrocer wants to expand his activity,what do you think he would do?Buying higher quality fruits or sell forever the same fruits like in the past?
Now it's only an idea,don't judge it looking only at the cost of the operation,probably supercell will be bigger than now when this project will be considered.

Supercell has Hay Day and Boom Beach. If they want more profit they'll put on the mobile market where they're already dominating.
July 31st, 2015
CricetoMannaro

You think that supercell will live only with 3 games...
It has no sense that a company stops to do other thing when it has already remunerative games.If you think so,all the videogames producers won't develope anything more because they have already something that create profit.:facepalm:
July 31st, 2015
AxionXD

Quote:

Originally Posted by CricetoMannaro

You think that supercell will live only with 3 games...
It has no sense that a company stops to do other thing when it has already remunerative games.If you think so,all the videogames producers won't develope anything more because they have already something that create profit.:facepalm:

Popcap has dozens of games and platforms, nearly triple the staff and made 100m a year. Supercell has 3 and makes 900million a year. They most certainly can live well off 3 games. It makes perfect sense. Why dilute your dev team and support staff?

They do try to make new games, at a comfortable pace. They've tried one that they discontinued and have another one that they're working to grow.

I dont think you understand how significant making nearly a billion dollars a year from 3 titles really means. EA Revenued 3.4 billion during FY13. That might sound good but how many titles does EA have? How many subsidiaries? They have over 9000 employees. And you know what their net income was for FY13? 100 million dollars!!!!

And with Supercell having significantly less overhead then EA has....

any day of the year, I'd rather be Supercells CEO than EA in a heart beat!
August 13th, 2015
marcoscale

Quote:

Originally Posted by CricetoMannaro

Hi guys i subbed on the official forum to share an idea.
I already posted it on the biggest italian forum.Here i recieved a lot of agreements so i would like to say what i thought.
My idea is a new game about clash of clans,not a mobile game but a game for console and PC.
A TPS with CoC characters,something like Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare,a new game totally different from the past games made by PopCap tipically flat and mobile based.
They started with this
http://static-www.ecs.popcap.com/www...1/pvz1_ss1.jpg
And they reached this result
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYjUrHOY7A4
This is a draft of what i had already written on the italian forum:
-The game is based on multiplayer
-Two teams made of 20 players each
-Everybody can choose a troop to use for himself
-The team win when it reach and destroy the enemy town hall
-You can help team mates throwing spells like fury to defeat the enemies easily
-The spells will be rechargeable,it depends from the number of kills.
-There will be two starter troops:Barbarian and Archer,the other will be unlockable doing achievements
-You can play as a troop of the castle with you friends against bots.
-Not really sure about it but i think it can be a pretty good thing collecting exp winning battles to improve your ability(like power,life,speed...)
I hope you'll understand my idea and,why not,make it real .
Please share with me what you think.
Ask me if it's not clear,i'm here to answer you :D

It's an amazing idea!!!