[Guide] Designing a Vault

Thanks for the feedback. I edited the trophy range from my original post, though am going to go test it out myself once I manage to drop down to sub200. :)

I would not try to create a hybrid vault, that protects equally resources and defences. On a vault design it gets even more obvious the limits of the vault. I myself use it only for resource protecting, keeping my TH outside or just behind the outer layer for some extra HP on buildings. You can protect up to 4 containers really well in such design, more, if you make a "big" core (3x5 buildings or so). Mortars in the middle are good, up to the point when they aren't shooting anymore. I prefer wizards for their ability to shoot ground & air with splash, so no goblin or minion will live to tell a story.

Making a 1* base on the other hand is a good use for a vault build. Sure, you can put containers to the middle, but that makes it weaker as you are protecting non essential buildings.

I'm not by far ready for TH10 and I think we get quite different attacks, from the looks of our bases.

I have recently become a convert to the vault base design. I employed a segregated style for quite some time but grew bored with it and didnt like how my defenses were spread thin. I found that with segregation i never lost all my sotrage but i often lost some.

Having switched the the vault i can say that, on average, raids are now less successful against me and rarely results in good gold loot.

the one other disadvantage is that lightning on DE becomes more of a problem because the lightning now pickers up a lot of gold and elixir as well as DE. So i can lose 40/40/1200 to lightning alone.

Excellent guide, keep up the good work!

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Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter

I have recently become a convert to the vault base design. I employed a segregated style for quite some time but grew bored with it and didnt like how my defenses were spread thin. I found that with segregation i never lost all my sotrage but i often lost some.

Having switched the the vault i can say that the average rage is not much less successful against me and rarely results in good gold loot.

the one other disadvantage is that lightning on DE becomes more of a problem because the lightning now pickers up a lot of gold and elixir as well as DE. So i can lose 40/40/1200 to lightning alone.

Excellet guide, keep up the good work!

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Thank you :)

Lightning rain on dlix is the reason why my container is so far from others. That, and it's a great lure :D
http://i.imgur.com/dmie2S9.jpg?1

Do you have more examples of vaults?

One person in my clan has the above design i was wondering what he was doing.

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Originally Posted by Superhal

Do you have more examples of vaults?

One person in my clan has the above design i was wondering what he was doing.

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Yep, here
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ments-Vs-Vault

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Originally Posted by Superhal

Do you have more examples of vaults?

One person in my clan has the above design i was wondering what he was doing.

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http://i.imgur.com/GiKFTUt.jpg
This is my vault, a little more upgraded then that now, but you'll get the base design from that.

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Originally Posted by the8thark

http://i.imgur.com/GiKFTUt.jpg
This is my vault, a little more upgraded then that now, but you'll get the base design from that.

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What differentiates OJM's vault design and yours, not counting prematurity of defensive levels, is that his base has compartments that protect the inner vault, while yours has very few that do so.

If you look at OJM's, it's misleading. It takes many wallbreakers to reach the core, and wallbreakers will probably not even get there, because of the large amount of compartments surrounding the inner core. Assuming he has level 5 walls, which are the same as yours, it would take a MINIMUM 4 wbs to reach the core, assuming they do exactly as I want them to do (his spring traps often prevent the wallbreakers to actually reach the wall they are trying to blow up. In your base, it takes half of that number of wallbreakers to reach the center, and it would be much easier to control them to do what I want (assuming I take out the archer towers on the side with archers). Additionally, wizard towers are among the core defenses that should protect storage raids, but yours barely protect storage raids. Even if I did reach the core of OJM's, it would still be difficult to take all of the resources because of his wizard towers protecting his core. Yours has no strong close range defenses in the center, so once someone reaches your core, it's probably over.

http://gyazo.com/c7894363bb047ec8c53d201f81f3b748.png


http://gyazo.com/34ea72c03560963059809dd9ff9bfba3.png

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Originally Posted by ericrootbeer

What differentiates OJM's vault design and yours, not counting prematurity of defensive levels, is that his base has compartments that protect the inner vault, while yours has very few that do so.

If you look at OJM's, it's misleading. It takes many wallbreakers to reach the core, and wallbreakers will probably not even get there, because of the large amount of compartments surrounding the inner core. Assuming he has level 5 walls, which are the same as yours, it would take a MINIMUM 4 wbs to reach the core, assuming they do exactly as I want them to do (his spring traps often prevent the wallbreakers to actually reach the wall they are trying to blow up. In your base, it takes half of that number of wallbreakers to reach the center, and it would be much easier to control them to do what I want (assuming I take out the archer towers on the side with archers). Additionally, wizard towers are among the core defenses that should protect storage raids, but yours barely protect storage raids. Even if I did reach the core of OJM's, it would still be difficult to take all of the resources because of his wizard towers protecting his core. Yours has no strong close range defenses in the center, so once someone reaches your core, it's probably over.

http://gyazo.com/c7894363bb047ec8c53d201f81f3b748.png


http://gyazo.com/34ea72c03560963059809dd9ff9bfba3.png

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Nice analysis :) Had I just a dozen more walls... :cool:

Thank you :)

Very nice post man!

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Originally Posted by ericrootbeer

What differentiates OJM's vault design and yours, not counting prematurity of defensive levels, is that his base has compartments that protect the inner vault, while yours has very few that do so.

If you look at OJM's, it's misleading. It takes many wallbreakers to reach the core, and wallbreakers will probably not even get there, because of the large amount of compartments surrounding the inner core. Assuming he has level 5 walls, which are the same as yours, it would take a MINIMUM 4 wbs to reach the core, assuming they do exactly as I want them to do (his spring traps often prevent the wallbreakers to actually reach the wall they are trying to blow up. In your base, it takes half of that number of wallbreakers to reach the center, and it would be much easier to control them to do what I want (assuming I take out the archer towers on the side with archers). Additionally, wizard towers are among the core defenses that should protect storage raids, but yours barely protect storage raids. Even if I did reach the core of OJM's, it would still be difficult to take all of the resources because of his wizard towers protecting his core. Yours has no strong close range defenses in the center, so once someone reaches your core, it's probably over.

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I agree. That's if things make it to the core. You'd need goblins for that and possibly more WBs. As everything else just does the ring around attacking my defences as they are closer then the vault is. I've seen it happen time and time again. At my trophy level it works well. Sure when I do a 2000+ push I'll re-evulate things. And for the odd few that breach the vault very few destroy all of the vault. Most of my losses are 50%-60% without the vault left untouched. I do have some vault coverage by the wizard towers and other things too. People rushing to the core would not first kill all 3 wizard towers. But it's not 3x wizard towers covering every spot of the core all at once though.

My last defences are: 50% 50%, 31% 34% 50% 28% 34% 50% etc etc
You get my point. And none breached the core.

So thanks for your input but for the time being my base works well. Later on I'll re-evalutate things and see how things go. But I will go out on a limb and say for 1k-1.5k (and possibly to 2k) trophies the style of base I have with everything appropriately levelled up (or even a little weak in my case) works. I'm not saying your advice is dud. I'm saying it's very good but something I'll remember for when I am upgraded and am going for the trophy push.

[edit] I just realised his core is protected by 3 main walls just like mine is. He has compartmentalised his defences more then me. I chose not to so this though.