sorry for the th9 chaos.
sorry for the th9 chaos.
Honestly, no,
Every one knows it's worth it to rush th9 and there is already a lot of threads liek this. Some people will be nice saying they care actually they can see that 100 times with search function. No point really. If your lazy just copy paste or bump an old thread anyway.
Experience*
No thanks, we don't need more ♥♥♥♥posts.
Rushing th9 a bit is ok, but if you rush it a lot then you're missing out A LOT, I have read all the guides to rush and they are completely ridiculous. I didn't max 100% my th8 but I had full skulls, MAXED WAR TROOPS, maxed king, maxed main farming troops, and defenses close to max. Rushing th8 all the way is just playing stupid, you will get to th9 with 0 war experience...
I prefer seeing thread about maxing th9 with tips and army comp the guy used to do it.. plus some screen shot of progress...
that said... i like seeing rushed too...
but i greatly prefer seeing them in game than in forum
If you can only provide a few pics and just find way to advertise your clan then no, but if you are up to writing the entire process, sharing your tips and tricks, add some creative stuff and subtle wit, then me want.
I think the experience of a rushed TH 9 is fairly well understood by most. It stinks until you get your farming troops and camps upgraded, then after that you're more or less alright for farming, you just have more left to do than other TH 9s.
Not unless they got TH9 before me. It doesn't take the same amount of time to rush TH8 then to rush TH8.Quote:
Originally Posted by zachUVA
I wasn't even thinking about advertising my clan. I just wanted to... Write a thread about rushing to TH9. Of course it would be as I go kind of thread, I would share tips and tricks as a come across them. The only way you would see my clan would be unintentionally. EG: I take a picture of my army and show it, as that is on my profile and would show my clan. Or in my forums signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geronimosemiro
Whats the point of having this?
Just for something interesting for me to work on, and it may encourage others to see that rushing isn't really that bad, and they can kind of see the experiences that a rushed TH9 goes throughQuote:
Originally Posted by renercanfly
I have no idea what you're trying to say, but if you rush to TH 9 then you will be doing more upgrades at TH 9 than a person who maxed TH 8 (well, unless you rush to 10 XD).Quote:
Originally Posted by Azza03
Say it takes 5 months to max TH8 (It literally does if you max ALL troops). I rush to TH9 within 1 month. 4 months later I am well AHEAD of the guy who maxed TH8 who just got TH9. Why would I be well ahead? Because there's about 50 days more lab time in TH8 then builder time (even with FIVE builders!). But me as a Rushed TH9 would have almost never idle builders, unlike that TH8 who fully maxed and had idle builders for 50 DAYS! I could have 15/15+ hero's by the time that max TH8 has 10/1 hero's.Quote:
Originally Posted by zachUVA
Also, TH9 lab time is shorter then builder time. TH8 lab time is 50 days LONGER then builder time. Rushing to TH9 combines the lab + builder time, so they would finish at roughly around a similar time. So when you sum it up, RUSHING will give you better results in terms of getting more maxed stuff!
Only downside to rushing is when you first reach that TH9 rushed, you MAY have to opt out of wars. I don't mind though. Besides, our clan can't war ATM. We want at least 20 members before we start another war.
Well if you're trying to make an efficiency argument, both rushing and (fully) maxing are silly. In terms of efficiency you're generally best off upgrading when you finish walls or buildings, whichever comes first. That gives you the best of both worlds: you enjoy the loot of the lower level TH for a time while not sacrficing valuable time or resources waiting on the other to finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azza03
That's the difference between "rushing" in a strategic sense and "rushing" in a "I'm skipping a TH or 2 or 8 cuz I can" sense. The latter is the real "rushing" IMO, because that's the only time you're really going too early.
I'm not actually rushing for efficiency, I'm rushing because TH9 has clearly superior offense, which makes the game a lot funner.Quote:
Originally Posted by zachUVA
Make a thread of how to rush from th1 to th9 within 31days 3hrs... that will be more interesting.
I enjoy reading these types of progress threads but it may be best done in a th9 rushers thread where all th9 rushers could post their progress similar to the farmer's thread. When you're done and have a detailed write-up, not necessarily a guide, then a separate post would be a nice read.
Hell no. I don't mean to be rude, but I do not have time / money for another tablet to wasteQuote:
Originally Posted by ForgiveMeNot
people should stop using the word rushed all across the board.
Most people don't understand what it means, confuses it for other things, and in general puts a negative connotation on things they just haven't grasped yet.
I have been working on a video series here.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-engineering-2
I encourage other players to watch it and learn. There are vast differences in how experienced players play the game as opposed to inexperienced players.
While I agree that some types of "rushing" is not good, I also understand that rushing does not have the common annotation to it that most players give it. aka a th upgraded over the rest of the buildings.
This is simply the poorest definition of what rushed is. It simply shows the inexperience of the "rushed" name caller as they simply don't get it.
An actual definition of a rushed base would be a poor value to weight analysis of the base.
In that sense I can look at a ton of bases that are at their prime th lvl that are "rushed" due to players making poor choices on their weight distribution. Things like upgrading barbs archers and giants first.
The word itself has just become overly saturated with negative connotation by poor players.
Meanwhile experienced players are using advanced knowledge in "rushing" bases to their benefit.
We as a community should start to recognize this and disband the word "rushed"
Choosing worlds like imbalanced or poorly weighted are really better terms for describing bases.
They are better descriptors of what is exactly wrong with the base.
If you want to advertise your channel, do it in the Youtuber's Corner. And "Rushed" by definition means someone who knows what they're doing and they max their main offense before moving up. Imbalanced, poorly weighted and premmie people are people who don't know what they're doing, and end up as a TH9 with level 2 troops. Now I am RUSHING, not being a premmie.Quote:
Originally Posted by dorme86
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Originally Posted by Azza03
this is a prime example of what i mean by people not understanding what rushed means.
if you read your own first post would see that none of what you assume is stated. you state very clearly.
"Well, I got TH8 recently. I am rushing to TH9 v"
none of that means they maxed their "main offense" what ever you assume that to be.
Furthermore, common notation of the word clearly suggests that people who rush don't "know what they are doing" any simple conversation on global will give you that basic feedback. Which is exactly what I am trying to get rid of.
You are example one on why people need to stop using the word.
It's a poor word, it's clearly misunderstood, and the connotations that are attached to it have soured any sort of meaning that you think the word does have.
lastly i don't give a rats butt about the youtube channel. I post the video to educate players not because i care about views. As the whole connotation of the word "rushing" has infiltrated the game with poor knowledge that has spread like wild fire. To the point that educated players can't even talk to the uneducated ones because they just don't get it.
case in point.
I'm done with this convo
You've only got 4 posts and already being plain out rude. Also, if "poorly balanced" replaced "rush," people would misunderstanding stand it MORE!Quote:
Originally Posted by dorme86
He said he was done with this convo. Lets see if he replies!He
There are plenty of threads from other people rushing in the "tactics and base design" section like morgauth, sinofdusk, sharonsym to name 3 off the top of my head, there are plenty more. The question is do we need more? If you think so, then read up on theirs and see what you can add to the already pretty large body of information/experience that is already out there.
From what I have read of their experiences, they do breakdown their rationale and how rushing has benefited them and the described in relative detail which players rushing is suitable for. If you can either add to or expand on or provide the information is better format then I guess it would be good.
Suggestion if you are serious and want to differentiate yourself: (please note they can be quite time consuming)
- Start a vlog that people can watch in addition to reading about your experience
- Maybe include a gantt chart to chart your progress in terms of loot gained/lossed and your base upgrade progress
Of course the suggestions above are just that, but those are probably the only things I see that could be improved upon when talking about the way others have presented their experiences and guides in rushing.
There are already many threads on being a wall-focused / rushed TH9.. First one off my head is Sin Of Dusk's rushing to TH9 and beyond thread! I would however like to see a new 'Experience of a rushed TH9' as I consider myself to be a rushed TH9 heading the TH8.5 route! :thumbsup:
I can't do a vlog, as I don't know how to record my Android 4.4 kit kat's screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by JKL2207
Could you give me a quick example of a Gantt chart for TH9 progression please? I may use this
Also, I would explain things I do in detail.
If you are doing 8.5 and you maxed TH8, you aren't rushed. And I definitely WILL make this thread. I'll be a TH9 in less then a month. #GetExcitedQuote:
Originally Posted by DaOneNOnly799
Looking for superior offense? Rush to TH10 and crush every th9 and below. I would understand and maybe support planned rushing for people getting huge amounts of loot and maxing walls before defenses. But rushing just for offense won't take you anywhere IMO.Good luck in what you are going to do but again think about it moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Azza03
(Sitting on 221 lavas)
What on earth is rushing?
You're being sarcastic right?Quote:
Originally Posted by AJabbar
If he really doesn't know, he's never played clash!
I'll try to convince you why rushing is not as good as you might think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azza03
1. True, TH9 has a superior offense but you will have to fight TH8s instead of TH7s which is significantly harder to do with farming armies like barch (more and better walls, more and better defenses, 3 storages instead of 2).
2. Your base will look like an ugly noob base.
3. You will provide more loot while being an easy target for TH9s and TH10s every time you log off, nexting cost will be higher.
4. The endless grind of maxing TH9 will be even longer because you didn't do your homework. Will you have the patience if you didn't even have what it takes to max TH8?
5. You would simply miss a part of the game.
Clash is a journey. Enjoy every single step.
And I will enjoy this step. Why do you say I haven't done homework? I did TONS of research about rushing before deciding I was going to rush. Also, my base won't look ugly noob base unless I have level 6 and under walls. And guess what? I don't care if my base looks ugly anyway. I'll use GiBarch for FARMING. First lab upgrade I'll do is giants. Once I have them, I'll cut into TH8 storages. Endless grind of maxing? Guess what? Say I'm saving for an expensive Elixir upgrade. But I don't get the required amount before a builder is free, so instead I can build a neglected cannon for only 800k Gold. Also, if I have skull walls or above, people will assume my base is good. So I won't really get crushed. Plus, lower THs will snipe my TH, meaning I get a FREE sheild. And I don't care if I miss the maxing TH8 part of the game. If I maxed TH8, I would miss out on rushing to TH9, and that's part of the game too, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by playitlikegabo
Go for it! I'd love to see your experiences on rushing and how it differs to my way of playing! :)
Not really gonna provide a TH9 progression Gantt chart but here is what a gantt chart looks like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gantt_chart
I am sure you can use wikipedia to fill in the time and resource requirements and break down your builder and lab time accordingly so you plan when you are going to start each upgrade and project how long you will stay at TH9 for rushing purposes.
This should provide a definite schedule for farming targets as well.
Rushed TH9 thread, nah. TH8.5 thread will be good for those who interested.
So roughly something like this? (Will make a proper one in the main thread)Quote:
Originally Posted by JKL2207
Builder Times Summary: -------------------------22%
Army: -------------------------------------------------56%
Defences: -0%
Lab Time Total: --------------11% (Total days: XXX).
So something like that created with proper graph bars in excell or something?
I'll be doing a lot of research of times! :)
Yeah something on a spreadsheet, you could even do some extra details like walls/specific upgrades you plan to target within a specific time-frame. Then from that you can expand on your daily loot gained/lost and how you are charting with your farming/upgrading goals. That should provide a different and probably more project focused way of rushing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azza03
Will do Gantt charts then! I better prepare. 6PM ATM and going to do a HECKof a lot of calculations and research and internet draining to work out my total build/ lab time! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JKL2207
Mate, don't forget to have fun - it's a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azza03
Actually, can't do it tonight. Feeling worse then ever. Winter here in Australia and I have a bad cold or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by playitlikegabo
You are right though. Maybe I'll just do lab time, hero's and walls. They are easy. Won't do any building progress, to much work to do.
Please do a rushed th10 guide.I would be very interested in that.
I don't want to rush too much. I kinda want to rush to TH9 and max itQuote:
Originally Posted by Coleader
Yes I would be very interested in you doing this and I think it would be very helpful to others depending on how you do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azza03
Thanks. I would try to be as helpful as possible, such as along the way I would give tips as I find out about themQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocket32