War Starring System 50% = 99%

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July 28th, 2015
Cowbug

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Originally Posted by thebuch4

When 90+% of attacks pre TH10 achieve 50%, how can you state that it's "perfectly balanced". You can't have a system that only makes sense at one TH level, either, as it does now.

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Originally Posted by thebuch4

The system already is watered down. Looking through the last couple of war logs I can see, on both sides, want to guess the amount of bases that weren't two starred at a minimum? 0 out of 80. That's a watered down system, folks.

No, its a system that rewards perfect attacks. You are suggesting a watered down system and don't seem to see it. Someone likened an extra star to a participation trophy and thats exactly what it is.

"Sorry, Timmy, you tried your very best but you just couldn't get 100%? Well you're still my little slugger, here have 3 stars anyways, when you finally get 100%, we'll just give you 4 stars!"

HORRAY!!!
July 28th, 2015
Teske22

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Originally Posted by Camja11

I wonder what that stat actually is? Way back when I was in other clans, the 2 star rate definitely wasn't even close to 90%. Of course I was normally in farming clans that only warred once per week. You would have to look at what all town halls attack actually looks like and then decide accordingly. It could be that this issue is strictly related to your clans th8/9's or clans that are very serious war clans. Though the system should be designed for all players.

I constantly run into it as a good clan. (36-13-1) in our last 50 wars. We run wars usually 20 or 25 players. Usually about 6 TH9s. 8 TH8s and 6 TH7s for 20.
July 28th, 2015
Squall9010

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Originally Posted by meowr

Of course the higher percentage attack is "better". That percentage number says so!
Doesn't change the fact that a rookie mistake cost him a star.
BUT the game DOES see the 99% 2 star attack as a better attack than the 50% attack.
It gave the better attack a score of 99%, and the "lesser" attack a score of 50%.

Umm... did you go to college? Pass/fail IS how you get a degree!!!!
Either you passed all your classes, or you didn't!!!
As for employers picking the "best" college student as an employee... if you are EVER in a real work environment, you would know that the new hire's grades rarely ever reflect on how good they are as an employee.
I've also never heard of a company hire people ONLY because of their GPA. (interviews are usually the pass/fail)

Read back a few pages, and read my post on how more granularity would negatively impact CW.
Or is back-reading a bit too much for you?

As I've stated before, most of the people wanting more stars only see things beneficial to them. They want more recognition for doing marginally/significantly better than their "lesser" clanmates. To some extent, this is understandable. I routinely get a higher % than my clanmates. And wouldn't mind being "rewarded" my due. BUT I realize how this would askew the CW to favor the Stronger Clan of the CW even more than it does now.

You have to look beyond what's in front of you. And look at the situation from more than one angle.

No, degrees aren't pass/fail, there are varying scores within them, and they are indeed used by employers. You are still talking useless ♥♥♥♥ picking at random details (in which you are wrong, but that doesn't matter).

Your response to how it would be negative is simply wrong. What you basically are saying is that every match is a mismatch and that to make it 'fair' everyone should just be graded equally. What you are basically saying, to go back to the earlier analogy, is that emploers shouldn't have access to any results other than whether the course was passed or failed. That there is no incentive for a student to do anything more than the bare minimum (quit at 50%) and they would still be graded the same as the guy who got high 80s in his exams. That's what it comes down to. I did initially read that but it was so stupid I didn't think you were using it as a leg to stand on and brushed it aside. There are many other faults with how you even came to the conclusion that it makes wars fairer, but due to the end result being so preposterous I don't think I should need to go into it.
July 28th, 2015
Squall9010

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Originally Posted by Cowbug

No, its a system that rewards perfect attacks. You are suggesting a watered down system and don't seem to see it. Someone likened an extra star to a participation trophy and thats exactly what it is.

"Sorry, Timmy, you tried your very best but you just couldn't get 100%? Well you're still my little slugger, here have 3 stars anyways, when you finally get 100%, we'll just give you 4 stars!"

HORRAY!!!

Hey why not just remove all stars except for the last one then? Apparently they're just participation trophies right?:facepalm:
July 28th, 2015
Cowbug

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Originally Posted by Teske22

I constantly run into it as a good clan. (36-13-1) in our last 50 wars. We run wars usually 20 or 25 players. Usually about 6 TH9s. 8 TH8s and 6 TH7s for 20.

Don't worry, as time goes on, your members' will become more skilled and you wont run into it nearly as much. Of course it happens to even the best players but the solution isnt to add more stars, its to hone your skills and not fall short.
July 28th, 2015
Cowbug

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Originally Posted by Teske22

I constantly run into it as a good clan. (36-13-1) in our last 50 wars. We run wars usually 20 or 25 players. Usually about 6 TH9s. 8 TH8s and 6 TH7s for 20.

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Originally Posted by Squall9010

Hey why not just remove all stars except for the last one then? Apparently they're just participation trophies right?:facepalm:

They kind of are but that is the established system which works just fine for most. The only reason to change the current system is to make players that constantly almost get 100% but cant pull it off on a consistent basis feel better about failing their attacks. Everyone fails but there are those that learn from it and those that blame the system.
July 28th, 2015
coachmoneyball

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Originally Posted by Squall9010

Hey why not just remove all stars except for the last one then? Apparently they're just participation trophies right?:facepalm:

This is actually sorta true we could remove all trophies and only count 3 stars. But the current system also allows clans who are terrible to still have fun in wars.
July 28th, 2015
Squall9010

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Originally Posted by Cowbug

They kind of are but that is the established system which works just fine for most. The only reason to change the current system is to make players that constantly almost get 100% but cant pull it off on a consistent basis feel better about failing their attacks. Everyone fails but there are those that learn from it and those that blame the system.

To put your two statements together the only thing one can conclude about your opinion is that it shouldn't change because it is the 'established system'. Do you have anything that is both meaningful and not contradictory to say then? You say the current system is fine but at the same time say it is flawed. You say it that changing it would result in certain flaws but say those flaws already exist.

What happens when two competent th10 clans face each other? Do you know? They both have anti-3 bases and they both two star every single base with ease. Some try for three stars but most of them fail and there is a high chance of a war ending in a draw. Sometimes the odd person may get a three star and turn the tide of the whole war, hardly a clan war when only a couple, if that, do anything remotely meaningful. Even known bunny clans were getting like 5 three stars for a while, some were getting 0 to 3. That's how flawed the system is.

About the part in bold. Please don't give your baseless blanket opinions and present them as a fact.
July 28th, 2015
Squall9010

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Originally Posted by coachmoneyball

This is actually sorta true we could remove all trophies and only count 3 stars. But the current system also allows clans who are terrible to still have fun in wars.

Come back when you aren't recruiting th7s.
July 28th, 2015
Camja11

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Originally Posted by Teske22

I constantly run into it as a good clan. (36-13-1) in our last 50 wars. We run wars usually 20 or 25 players. Usually about 6 TH9s. 8 TH8s and 6 TH7s for 20.

Yes, but you are a solid war clan. What about all the casual clans?

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