War Starring System 50% = 99%

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by advanced1

you don't deserve to wear the game specialist badge.

---

Because in my opinion I think the system is fine?

We all have opinions, that's that great about the game.

And mine is as such. If any attacker ever gets 90% damage and misses the hall they messed up, managing the troops to best utilize their AI is the challenge the game presents.

I do not like ideas to change it as it encourages what I believe are lazy tactics like mass hogs.

The Town Hall is the most important building in the game, figure out a way to get it early. Not get it by default by overpowering a base. Overpowering a base is not skill.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by daz258

Because in my opinion I think the system is fine?

We all have opinions, that's that great about the game.

And mine is as such. If any attacker ever gets 90% damage and misses the hall they messed up, managing the troops to best utilize their AI is the challenge the game presents.

I do not like ideas to change it as it encourages what I believe are lazy tactics like mass hogs.

The Town Hall is the most important building in the game, figure out a way to get it early. Not get it by default by overpowering a base. Overpowering a base is not skill.

---

So you're a fan of lazy tactics like two star GOWIPEs and just overpowering a small percent of the base for two stars getting rewarded just as much as a 99%, which was clearly a much less lazy, better thought out attack (which is why it destroyed twice as much of the base)

I really don't know how you can argue that 50% strategies are less lazy than 90% strategies.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by thebuch4

So you're a fan of lazy tactics like two star GOWIPEs and just overpowering a small percent of the base for two stars getting rewarded just as much as a 99%, which was clearly a much less lazy, better thought out attack (which is why it destroyed twice as much of the base)

I really don't know how you can argue that 50% strategies are less lazy than 90% strategies.

---

You're assuming 2 star with GoWiPe is easy. You need to manage the AI well to pull off 2 stars with it.

I've seen countless GoWiPe's with poor direction end up with 60%+ 1 star attacks because their cannot direct their Golems or Queen properly.

Overall I believe any such proposal to add more stars devalues the Town Hall. That just does not sit comfortably with me.

I don't know......

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by daz258

You're assuming 2 star with GoWiPe is easy. You need to manage the AI well to pull off 2 stars with it.

I've seen countless GoWiPe's with poor direction end up with 60%+ 1 star attacks because their cannot direct their Golems or Queen properly.

Overall I believe any such proposal to add more stars devalues the Town Hall. That just does not sit comfortably with me.

---

Overall, all the game specialists have proven unable to support any change in the game and defend everything SC throws out, probably in return for their rank.

So how are you going to tell me that my proposal devalues the town hall? My proposal says the town hall is equal to killing 50% of the base! As it is now.

And at TH8, a two star GOWIPE is a given, and at TH9, our 9s pull it off with extreme consistency. If it can be managed on 80% of attacks that go for it, it's too easy.. Especially when the three star percentage on decent nines by nines in normal (not hardcore warring clans) wars is extremely low. If seemingly 80+% of attacks are two stars, we need a system that differentiates the two stars.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by thebuch4

Overall, all the game specialists have proven unable to support any change in the game and defend everything SC throws out, probably in return for their rank.

So how are you going to tell me that my proposal devalues the town hall? My proposal says the town hall is equal to killing 50% of the base! As it is now.

And at TH8, a two star GOWIPE is a given, and at TH9, our 9s pull it off with extreme consistency. If it can be managed on 80% of attacks that go for it, it's too easy.. Especially when the three star percentage on decent nines by nines in normal (not hardcore warring clans) wars is extremely low. If seemingly 80+% of attacks are two stars, we need a system that differentiates the two stars.

---

Yes probably all the game specialists won't support any change in the game and defend everything SC throws out in return for their rank.

But it doesn't matter, it's just their opinion.

Remember the zapping era, just 1 mod was against zapping, the rest of the mods, they all always replied "it's a part of the game" "you have to adjust your base" "it will never change"

But the force of people was stronger, and zapping is now gone. Even when all mods defended zapping.

So as you see, it doesn't matter if the game specialists are against any change in the war stars, it's just an opinion.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by thebuch4

Overall, all the game specialists have proven unable to support any change in the game and defend everything SC throws out, probably in return for their rank.

---

Im not sure that assumption is the most logical
Maybe the game specialists have been playing the game a long time and have a very good understanding of the game and the mechanics
Also maybe you wann check Daz signature where he suggests changes in game and not defending SC, actually some great game changing ideas have come from game specialists

In this case I agree with the sense that the system is fine now, its simple yet rewards the attacks that can get 100%

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jeeei

Im not sure that assumption is the most logical
Maybe the game specialists have been playing the game a long time and have a very good understanding of the game and the mechanics
Also maybe you wann check Daz signature where he suggests changes in game and not defending SC, actually some great game changing ideas have come from game specialists

In this case I agree with the sense that the system is fine now, its simple yet rewards the attacks that can get 100%

---

I'll agree with you more when I see a game specialist supporting any actual sweeping changes, not just asking for a couple things here and there which are completely uncontroversial.

And the system as is makes the vast majority of attacks, no matter the quality, worth exactly the same. It doesn't reward A- attacks any more than D+ attacks, that's a problem.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by thebuch4

So you're a fan of lazy tactics like two star GOWIPEs and just overpowering a small percent of the base for two stars getting rewarded just as much as a 99%, which was clearly a much less lazy, better thought out attack (which is why it destroyed twice as much of the base)

I really don't know how you can argue that 50% strategies are less lazy than 90% strategies.

---

There are no lazy GoWiPe attacks at th10. And I saw many fail at th9. Maybe it's lazy at th8, but th8 is just a single town hall. For the rest of us it takes excellent spell timing, troop placement, and tactics to pull a good GoWiPe off. I actually find 5 golem a little more forgiving, assuming you have strong heros.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camja11

There are no lazy GoWiPe attacks at th10. And I saw many fail at th9. Maybe it's lazy at th8, but th8 is just a single town hall. For the rest of us it takes excellent spell timing, troop placement, and tactics to pull a good GoWiPe off. I actually find 5 golem a little more forgiving, assuming you have strong heros.

---

At TH9, we don't have anywhere near elite attackers and they almost get the two star with GOWIWIs and GOWIPEs. It's way too easy to get them, and if we looked at the total number of three stars on TH9 vs TH9, I'd bet the VAST majority of attacks are 2 stars.. Which is why we need a system that differentiates them