My error using poor troop comp, ty for the help!
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My error using poor troop comp, ty for the help!
Less nexting. It's to high THs advantage as well unless they are rushed IMO. I mean really, do you ever have a reason to raid people further than 2 THs away (actually, that makes pushing harder for LOW THs...)?
I was generally quite unaffected by this change because of "low" town hall. Some mates who have TH9 or TH10 who were hiding in bronze got quite some issues at first (mostly because they got skyrocketed by winning defense from people dropping only one troop).
Now high THs can farm on low leagues at least, some say it's good easy loot
(not true, by the way)Quote:
Originally Posted by Skele
I was a th9 when it came out, and now I`m an early th10.
And I really like it.
Some days are better than others.
But loot overall has been very good.
In a month at th10 I`am well on my way. all new defenses are down, golems done, wizards almost done, countless walls upgraded, and a few hero levels.
I don`t boost, and I rarely gem.
It has been really good for me.
I`m in gold 2 using BAM and avg well over a million each unboosted.
As a TH10, it is still pretty normal for me next 75-100 times before I find a storage raid, let alone a collector raid. Whether it is the silver, gold or crystal league, it is all the same. Imagine what it would be like if I had a lot of TH8 and lower show up. I honestly fear to even imagine what it must have been like for TH10 before the update :eek:
I agree, this change was a gift to TH10s, not a detriment, I find targets much faster now that I dont have to wade through nearly as many TH7s and 8s.Quote:
Originally Posted by arunt
Huh? You want to attack 3 levels lower than you? There's no loot there ... by trying to find people near your th level sc actually made it MUCH EASIER to find loot ... I think you are doing it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skele
Frankly the only thing I'm running into consistently with any decent loot is Max th8s or Max th9s, any rushed or fresh bases are clearly cleaned out ahead of time, and the trade off for elixer you're spending vs what you're getting is horrendous.
I don't disagree that you can't find bases out there but I've noticed a significant difference after upgrading to th9 in terms of the bases available and loot available in said bases...
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Originally Posted by Johnnysks
My guess is OP is looking for easier cup offers in higher leagues, but that`s just a guess
Looks like he is a new TH9 raiding with an expensive army comp. Need to get your farming troops upgraded and you will have a better time destroying TH8s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighundy
Not at all, I'm looking for decent loot that doesn't require me to slow grind loot and spend my entire life on a game farming to make any progress....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighundy
Well, there is an easy fix for that. Use a credit card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skele
Don't disagree with you but when your making marginal gains at best to upgrade said farming troops as I said above I don't have all day to sit on here and farm....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbug
That's because your fellow players of the same TH level all are going after those same rushed and fresh bases and clearing them before you get to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skele
They only next past the max TH8s or max TH9s because they are not easy loot.
I think you got the idea of the matchmaking update wrong. This was not done to protect weaker players. This change was made to improve loot for higher town halls:
a) It prevents low town halls from sniping higher town halls, cheap shielding them. With more bases in the queue, loot will get much better.
b) All the lower town halls that dont give loot anyway are excluded and you see only those that do not give you 50% or even 75% penalty. This way higher town halls can move a bit further down. They down have to escape the lower ths any more.
The only one that are complaining about this change are the semi inactives that tried to hide in silver and those that suck at attacking and cant hit a player only 1 th level down.
BAM.
Once I figured out how to use it correctly, I can`t even spend the loot fast enough.
And I still have th9 level farming troops.
And BAM can be down with storage or collector raids, with a 12minute build time.
Then I cook Loonion overnight or when I can`t raid back to back.
Loot is literally everywhere and I`ve never had to next more than 25 times to find a decent 250k each collector raid.
500k combined everything 15minutes x 2 hours unboosted is pretty good loot.
Funnily enough, the higher leagues provide far better cheap shielding than low leagues do now. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by andrgin
Isn't BAM just like barcher and primarily a collector raid only strat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighundy
You find 250k 250k collector raids within 25 nexts as a TH10? I find that so hard to believe that I think you are plainly lying. I have been to silver, gold and crystal in search of it, but they don't seem to exist unless I next 100+ times. Thankfully, I can raid storages with gibarch, one hero and a spell or two. Sorry, but I can't find these 500k inactives while I found multiple 800-900k raids as a TH9, and I have been at TH10 for about a month and a half. And our TH8 and TH9 still find them regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighundy
Yes I do avg 250k each per raid with BAM in G3-G1 as a new th10.
Yes you can reach some storages with BAM, depending on the base.
I primarily search for collectors, but if I can reach 2-4 storages I`ll drop a rage and get in there.
Some days are better than others.
I`ll glad share replays if you join my clan.
`Most raids are over 300k each.
I do not doubt your ability to reach storages. I loved BAM when I used it, but these days I gibarch because it is more relaxed and I do not want to attack more than once or twice an hour anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighundy
I only doubt that you get those juicy collector raids in 25 nexts as a TH10. I have been in the Gold leagues since I was TH7, and honestly I couldn't even say that I find those juicy collector raids every 100 nexts, let alone 25. Not as a TH10.
But if you are really finding them so easily, well congratulations. I would love to have your luck too :)
I`ve never sat down and inputting any real data to support my theory.
This is just based on what I feel is happening.
I`m used to raiding constantly as a th9.
I don`t think I need to as much anymore.
No one ever takes any loot from me way down here in the slums of gold league.
And they will take even less when my infernos are done building.
The upgrades are so long that I`m sitting on max loot a lot of the time.
That is with doing a lot of walls as well prior to putting the builder to sleep.
Loot for me at th10 has almost been better believe it or not. That could be a figment, though.
Regardless, after the matchmaking update, I haven`t been able to spend the loot fast enough.
Perhaps I should slow down and leave some for you ahhah.
Once infernos are down, I might switch to loonion and log in and out every 45minutes. I don`t have a lot of elixir upgrades left. just drill and lab.
I can`t see myself only having defense upgrades left to coincide with heroes for a long time. And then dump all elixir into walls.
I can`t imagine what life as a mid-th10 was like before the elixir for walls update lol
Agreed, TH10 loot is better than TH9, but I farm in C1 or M3. And TH9 loot is better than TH8. If players do not rush up, its fine for me, more loot for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bighundy
I also hit capped loot all the time, which makes it quite boring. I'm keeping a builder free sometimes, but with my semester starting, I guess I'll have to make do with all 5 working
My stats:
TH8 - 800-1mil g/hr + 1-2k DE
TH9 - 0.8-1.2mil g/hr + 2-6k DE
TH10 - 1.1-1.4mil g/hr + 4-7k DE
Just hit th10 a few days ago (so no th10 benefits yet) and I have no trouble using bam in crystal 3. What I do is I keep nexting for bases but of If i see a th snipe(pretty common) I take it and thats a free 35k gold to keep nexting. I just keep doing that till I find the right base to attack and if I get to high in cups I just drop a few cups. Seems to be working for me.
I didn't read your post cause its probably gibberish but the game isn't ruined.
I actually find more townhall's to snipe for free loot since there isn't a bunch of townhall 7's sniping all the townhall 10's all day in crystal and above.
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Originally Posted by Bighundy
I can only assume that you guys have forgotten what it was like at TH9, and even more so, at TH8. Th10 loot better than TH9? TH9 loot better than TH8? I don't know how can people forget things so fast :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SinOfDusk
The only good thing at TH10 is that I can log off as much as I want - there is close to zero probability that someone will even try to take my loot. I am offering 400k/400k/3000 and I don't have anything to fear until I go upto high Crystal.
But again, to address the OP, no the game isn't ruined. The game was ruined when people could do lvl 7 and lvl 8 walls with elixir, but thankfully that was a short-lived experiment.
People say that the game is "ruined" But it's an exagguration as most people just keep playing :smirk:
All of you need to move up in trophies into Crystal. Massive loot in collectors and storages (especially at night in the US), nice bonuses.
An added bonus is you can sniped almost all the time. Right now I have had nearly completely full storages of gold, elixir, and DE (trying to save up for L3 golems and max DE drills). I'm still getting sniped 90% of the time.
Anyone at TH9 or higher should be in Crystal leagues. Period.
I keep statistics of average loot and loot per day ever since I was around a month into TH9. Then I made an alt which I kept statistics too at TH8. After I moved to TH10, the astonishing thing was that farming >1mil gold per hr is very common and doable. In TH9, I regularly clocked +- 1mil gold and my TH8 alt still needs quite a little luck to farm even 1mil gold per hrQuote:
Originally Posted by arunt
Where do you farm? I average 2m each per hour in silver with my th8.Quote:
Originally Posted by SinOfDusk
I suggest that you find out a better trophy range or army composition for your th8 base. You really should be making more.Quote:
Originally Posted by SinOfDusk
I don't know why I can't find collector raids. On the other hand, I have stopped wall upgrades at lvl 9, so it doesn't matter as much. I am happy cleaning out th9 storages every 30-60 minutes.
So wait? You're complaining you have to face people your level now and can't hide in lower leagues?
If it's because you rushed, lesson learned.
I never had a problem with nexting before the MMS update, but after I had to next even less. It's easier to find bases with enough loot now that the MMS will find people closer to your level. It's been a while since I saw a TH7 offering 5k of each and no DE, why would you care that you no longer see those players?
60% of my offerings in Crystal are TH9 with mostly decently loot. 10% I'll get a TH8 but unless they have great loot, I pass those up. 30% I'll see a TH10, most I won't attack unless they have really juicy loot that I can hit.
I've seen nothing but good since this update. It seem the only ones affected are those that rush or those that preyed on significantly weaker players.
This thread makes me wanna cry, I am a new th 9 and having trouble at the moment collecting loot. Mostly because I have no spells as it is upgrading so is my fault, but when I hear all these th 10s talk about wiping out th 9s makes me kinda wanna hide under my blankets until the boogie man goes away. On my way up to crystal as soon as my spell fact is done however, hoping for some nice snipes of my th so I can survive. Anyway, I thank some of the folks here for giving ideas of where and how to manage to get the loot that I will be needing soon.
For farming you really don't want to use spells unless you must use spells. I find that GiBarch is extremely effective for me to clean out TH8's, core (many) TH9's and generally get some good loot (not protected by that damn Inferno Tower) from TH10's. No spells used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahle
I take that back. The only time I use spells is if I am also farming the loot bonus. I'll use them to make sure I get the TH or the 50%, whichever comes first.
I found your problem and I bolded it.Quote:
Originally Posted by arunt
I took some of the troop composition advice from posts here and have been doing well afterwards. Using BAM, I don't think GiBarch is as feasible until at least lvl 6 giants as lvl 5 ones get owned a bit too quickly against Max th8s and th9s. Main issue I think I was spending too much elixer vs what I was getting based on troop comp.
And yes maybe I had the wrong idea when I looked at the mechanics of the update, live and learn!