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So, is is sustainable... if one were to purchase Tom for 10 days, and all you did was get shovels 4 times a day, would you think that you could mine enough diamonds to pay for Tom? Diamonds are a bit expensive in this game compared to clash of clans gems anyway, and I was wondering if this were possible before I make the plunge :).
Thanks for your responses!
Hi. I am sure there are forum members with statistics to back up a response to your question, but in my undocumented experience there once was a time when what you ask about was possible. But it is no longer like that.
I tend to agree with you, willow. I noticed I only get a diamond about every 20 mining tools redeemed or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by willow
Hope that helps.
It's become quite difficult.
If you are very diligent about sending Tom for shovels every two hours, and also get diamonds from other sources, it's possible, but don't expect to have a lot of extra diamonds.
I get more diamonds from finding unlocked mystery boxes than with mining. :p
You are getting the pickaxes, not the shovels, right?
⬆️ This is so true. Mining used to be the way to get the most diamonds. Not now. Not now at all. Lock boxes are the best way.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazmella
I seem to get more diamonds from the tnt and dynamite lately. Weird huh?
I'm having the same experience as Tiggerr. I just got two diamonds in a row from sticks of dynamite. That is NOT to say that I get enough from mining to make hiring Tom worthwhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiggerr129
Historically, I sold my dynamite and TNT and mined with picks and shovels. Now I save those for Derby mining tasks and use my "cheaper" mining tools for keeping my smelters running on an everyday basis. That's how I've made the "Hmmm, I'm getting diamonds from dynamite and TNT discovery."
I have noticed that mining tools from Tom tend to have a slower payout ratio of diamonds than normally getting them. I got 10 pickaxes normally and got 2 diamonds. I used Tom and it took about 30 to get 2 diamonds. With shovels I was lucky enough to get a diamond within 10 tries on both Tom and normally obtained. Tom was still slower than the normally obtained though. Even if you bought the best deal, 10 day tom on discount which is only 9 gems a day rather than 15 and if you used him 12 times a day, at those ratios using pickaxes would gives 8 diamonds or less a day, however at the normal rate of just obtaining them you could get with Tom up to about 20 gems.
I am not. I have tracked the use of thousands of mining tools, and have found that shovels get the most diamonds. Pickaxes get more ore, but shovels get more diamonds.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayhawkJulene
The mine is quite streaky, though. Even a few hundred tools don't give you an accurate picture, because of those hot and cold streaks.
Shovels do give more diamonds, but it's about the same thing with shovels. You only get more diamonds per shovel, it doesn't affect that what you get from Tom gives less diamonds. Since I always have a lot of mining stuff I am testing that. It appears shovels give 1/3 more diamonds off of like 10 or 15 pick axes and shovels. So at that rate, Tom can very minimally payoff because 9 shovels multiplied by 12 times is equal to 108 shovels, that is about 10.8 diamonds a day. For the discount on 10 days, you can get 1.8 diamonds free a day if you use it every 2 hours in a whole day. So, 18 diamonds is about max profit for 10 days of constant 24/7 Tom. 1/3 of 15 is 5, and 15-5 is 10, that's where I got that. Consider the payment for coins another thing. It's almost practically impossible to get profit in diamonds, you would have to stay up almost 10 days straight. Plus the amount of coins would get you broke on coins.
I have had Tom continuously for over 15 months. It's still sustainable (I never buy diamonds). But not at just 4 trips per day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Art84
The comments about one diamond per 20 tools are not realistic for shovels. Maybe for the others: don't know, don't care. It's also random, certainly there will be some times when 20 shovels gets you no diamonds. There will also be times when 20 shovels gets you 12 diamonds. These are uncommon extreme cases. But on average it will be more like 3.5 diamonds. Do the math from there: how many shovels do you need to recoup the 90 diamonds?
As somebody else said, this is a lot harder than it used to be. When I started those 20 shovels might average 5 or 6 diamonds. At this point I am happy to earn back the diamonds that I spent, and in return I have more ore than I could ever use.
It helps if you have time and patience to make him take the 2-minute nap if he offers just 7 shovels. I accept 8 or 9.
It also helps a lot if you have enough self control to use him only for shovels. If you have to start sending him out to help with trucks, boats, or your neighbors, then you're not going to make it. But since I supply a good portion of my neighborhood's ore, I'm not feeling the slightest bit guilty about not using him for other help.
Certain people get more or less diamonds, you just need to be lucky. At 6-8 trips a day and 3.5 gems every 20 or 1.75 every 10, 6 trips is just enough to profit. However, I have figured out 2 every 25 is about right. So 1 gem is about 12.5 shovels, so at that rate 11 trips is enough. Just depends on luck.
This is what I have found over the past several months...the mine sometimes giveth, and sometimes not! LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Janilee
I have had streaks of 7-10 days where I will use 5-6 shovels and get 2 diamonds, and then may have another 7-10 days where I will be lucky if I get a diamond after using 10-12 shovels.
I try to send Tom for shovels twice in a row, then have him fetch me items that I am out of that take a while to make, to help me keep up with my stock. This, plus hopefully finding them in tool boxes, from the movie tickets, maybe from winning a global event, and the very, very elusive diamonds in the sea chest, and I don't do too badly in keeping the status quo with my diamonds.
Hello fellow idahoan, and just like janilee said, there is hot and cold streaks. If you want to make diamond profit, your best bet is to not use Tom. Mining tools are unreliable for diamonds and can give you a good or bad streak. Plus using him can put a dent in your pocket with out preparation.
Hogwash. It doesn't matter where you get your mining tools with regards to how often you get diamonds. Whether you send Tom for mining tools, collect them from the town or buy them from a friends the mine has no idea where you got the tool. That's just nuts. The rate and frequency has more to do with randomness and volume than where you got the tool. Just making that observation even a few times won't give you a big enough sample to make that declarationQuote:
Originally Posted by TheIdahoTrader
And while some people think that you get more diamonds with shovels than pick axes, I have found that I get them even with txt and dynamite. I generally get enough diamonds to hire Tom after two high value mining tasks but one of my neighbors doesn't. It's the luck of the draw.
I have also been noticing this in the last few months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiggerr129
I must be unlucky with mining, considering my figures are much lower. And I mean it, Toms tools don't give me as many diamonds! Say hogwash, I'll say hegwesh.
And yay, I am now a troll food! Wait, Wut?
Good info XYZZY! I have never really kept track of what I get but I tend to get 3-4 diamonds every time I do a mining task, which is a nice bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by XYZZY