I know we are supposed to matched by NH size in Derby, but we are consistently matched with teams that have as many as 6 more players as we do.
What gives?
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I know we are supposed to matched by NH size in Derby, but we are consistently matched with teams that have as many as 6 more players as we do.
What gives?
Just to clarify, are all of the people in the other neighborhoods "In Derby"? If there are any that say "not in derby", then those people joined after the derby started and are not able to take tasks.
Yes, it does say they are "in derby" in the competing NHs, all players.Quote:
Originally Posted by d2l5p2
However, as far as our NH, all players ~ except those who join during an active Derby ~ say "in derby", yet not all of us are tasking each derby.
Of our 24/30, usually 21 are actually tasking.
So that "in derby" tag in our NH is meaningless, even if we were a full house.
Many thanks for taking time to reply.
I am learning something from everyone, but I for one am not a fan of the derby rework.
Happy Farming!:cool:
You're welcome. Yes, at this time, that tag "in-derby" just means they were part of the neighborhood when the derby started, not necessarily that they are participating.
So then, if not all players are tasking although it says "in derby" beside their name, that aspect is not particularly relevant to match ups based on NH size, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by d2l5p2
Now I'm still as confused as ever!
I understood the derby match ups to based on NH size. If that's the case, it still is unfairly matched in our NH's case as we still only physically have 24/30 players, yet our competitors have 30/30.
And, since that "in derby" piece means nothing as far as determining if all 30/30 of competitive teams are tasking, how is 30 vrs 24 a fairly matched game?
I hope I'm explaining it correctly, I just really want to understand how the challenge is meant to work, so I'm grateful for all knowledge!
Thanks again!:)
I could be that about 6 members of them have not participated in the derby.
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Originally Posted by Haymaven
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Originally Posted by Haymaven
Did you have 30 members when the derby started? You get matched with other NH's at the start of a derby, so it seems like 6 people left your NH during the derby. This could be the reason you had 24 members and the others had 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haymaven
If you continue to have issues like this:
When the derby starts, your NH has 24 members in derby and other NH's have 30 members, and no one in your NH has left.
Try contacting SC through the "contact us" feature in-game about the issue.
Haymaven, let's see if we're understanding your situation correctly... :)
You have 24 members total in your NH. All 24 members were in the NH before the last derby started, and all of them had "in derby" next to their farm name. Did you have more than 24 members in your NH at the time derby started?
(Of those 24, only 21 actually played the derby. Noting that to show I've read your post, since others have mentioned "in derby" just means a neighbor is eligible to participate. It doesn't indicate whether or not they actually played the derby.)
Your competitors... you say some of them have 30 members in the NH? Do you remember how many of them had "in derby" next to their farm names at the start of the derby. That's the count you want to look for. If you had 24 members "in derby" at the start, then all other NHs should have the same number at the start... unless a member leaves pretty close to the beginning of the race, and you missed it some how. As the week goes on, if they have members leaving the NH, the number of people "in derby" will drop. If they add members in the middle of the derby, their NH total will go up, but those new members shouldn't be listed as "in derby."
Yes, I will definitely do this if it happens at the start of Derby again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProAlvi15n
And yes, our counts and comparisons are done from minute 1, day 1 of the Derby. So the NH numbers I state are from the beginning of a Derby. Just so we know where we stand and how to strategize. However, when the numbers don't jibe (equal NH numbers in particular), there is really nothing TO do except your best and achieve your horseshoe level prizes. With that sort of Match Up, though, we cannot place, no matter how we try.
And we can't lay the blame on our players. If the numbers aren't there player vrs player, we will not place. Plain and simple.
Thanks for your answer!
My answers appear next to your questions, in purple, thanks!
From start of Derby, we had 24/30, most other NHs, in particular the top three contenders ( I only track imminent "threats", so top three) had 30/30, all said "in derby" next to EACH member of the NHs names.Quote:
Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay
Our NH "clearouts" happen near or after Derby ends, but before Derby begins. As of yet we've had no one leave at start of Derby once it's underway. Most want to collect their rewards. Likewise, our Leader is cognizant of this fact, and avoids removing any player contributing to Derby, until after they have collected rewards. In the case I am citing here, we had been consistently at 24/30 for 2 consecutive Derbies, so, IMO, long enough for Supercell to match up our NH with a like-sized NH. That's why the confusion over the process. It really is quite unfair to strive and attempt to motivate players when they know the odds are stacked in the majority of the competitors' favor.
Thanks for your response!
Haymaven, thanks for going through my questions! It's not your explanation that's lacking necessarily. Even though I read your posts carefully, I was still not 100% sure that I was understanding the situation completely. And that's probably my comprehension issue not your explanation skills. :)
Your NH's been put in an unfair spot. That shouldn't be happening. It's good you've been advised to report in-game. I wish you luck getting the support from Support you deserve. Better yet, I hope this unfortunate glitch misses your 'hood next time.
Thanks much for taking the time to reply! I know we are all busy with Derby prep!Quote:
Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay
Yes, the distilled version of my issue is that from scratch, all NHs competing are NOT equal in size, which, to my understanding was meant to be the primary basis for match up, along with prior results.
As of late, I do not see that happening with our match ups, and many are losing motivation as a result. I do hope this issue is on Hay Days radar, but nice to know experienced players like yourself will take the time and show interest!
Many thanks again!:)
I found Nick's post on this. So, it should be fixed for this coming derby:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post4972134
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Originally Posted by d2l5p2
Yup! I saw that too! Fingers crossed! Thanks again!
You're welcome. I'm probably not more experienced than you though. My forum designation is a generic one for my post count - which just means I've wasted a lot of time on the forums lol. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Haymaven
The software tweak and Nick's post about repairing match-ups happened before the previous derby. I understood that as meaning it would be fixed in time for that previous derby -- even before the current derby starting today. So, it's probably more important than ever that in-game support gets feedback if the glitch persists. Again, good luck!
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Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay
Yes, I saw that too, I actually had shared the screen shot of Nick's post with our Leadership earlier.
I guess I was kinda hoping it was an ongoing review on Supercells' part.
Things aren't much better this Derby, and worse - NO 300+ tasks! I can't believe the mix we are being offered! NO WAY to compete or place like this!
And excuse me, but HOW are the top 3 NHs in our Derby already at 1000's of points in under 12 hours???
We barely have enough 300+ tasks for each of us to play! So, NH size is clearly NOT the only issue, right?
As far as seniority ~ I think Forum time counts! I have learned a tremendous amount of very helpful things here in a very short time! Some even made me say: "D'oh!"
Thanks again!:)