Who Misses the "Good Ole Days"?

Think about it, a few simple months ago...

You log onto hay day, maybe put up a casual "hello there" to your friendly neighbors,

Check your machines, reload production lines for truck orders and townies, harvest and plant new crops,

Have a friendly chat with your friends, asking how their day is,

See who needs what and sell whatever they are missing,

Check out the Daily Dirt for a few minutes and search for some foods or fruits or expansion items for you and the hoodies,

You took time to celebrate the little things like getting a long awaited achievement, or moving up a whole level!

Your neighbors were always fun to be around and you kinda wished everyone was this helpful in real life!

BUT THEN CAME THE DERBY...

When you check the paper now, all you see is wheat, indigo, and the occasional pie, it lacks any diversity.

Bems, Sems, and Lems are scarce as can be,

Now, you come on and load your machines quickly with whatever you can afford to make with your meager amounts of fruit and whatever else the paper is now deprived of,

All the helping that goes on is to FINISH DERBY TASKS,

Members, elders, and Co-leaders alike all seem to run around worrying about the DERBY.

Your normally friendly neighbors now seem very preoccupied with derby tasks 24/7 and only seem to com on for that...

You spend minutes upon minutes cleaning the board for good tasks.

You constantly cannot help but look at the derby board and stress about your score,

Some NHs are being torn apart from all this stress and strain of friendships...


Don't perceive this wrong, i think the original concept for the derby was good, but I also believed the derby had ITS PLACE. I thought it would have been a much better idea to not make the derby a continuous thing over EVERY WEEK. The new derby SC has created, horrid, simply horrid, I now hate the derby with as much passion as the next player, we now participate for prizes, not for FUN. This game has morphed from a fun arm game into a crazy stupid horse race...

The things I personally miss?

* I would load my barn full of hard to find items, and tell all my hoodies that I was having a huge sale, and everyone would show up and share and I just loved making my nh full of friends so happy! I would EMPTY my barn of any and all supplies! To see (and hear) their proverbial smiling faces was a large source of JOY and FUN in this game for me, but sadly those days are now over...

* Another thing? Our weekly organized NH sales, where we had a set date every saturday at 6pm Pacific standard time where everyone from all around the world would come on and EVERYONE would load their shops FULL of goodies for the NH to have first pick! It was such a joyous time, being able to share and laugh and joke with everyone, but those days to, are now a thing of the past...

I just miss the old hay day, and I know others do to...

I do!
Pre-neighourhoods even (although I love my hood) was a nice time. If you didn't log in for two days, nobody to wonder why, you just did it at your own pace (I know you can play alone now but playing alone now isn't the same as it was before neighbourhoods existed). The newspaper was full...cakes, fruit, jam, EMs. I didn't mind giving a stranger my last chocolate cake.
I still play the game and the Derby (we are a relaxed hood) but I only go to/buy from the paper if Ive accidentally filled my bakery with bread, and used all my wheat without really realising, or to buy indigo (I tend not to grow it myself). Things are far from what they used to be.

Yep, my "good ole days" like Melly's, date before Nhs began. While I like that social aspect for the most part, I could do without other people's drama or their begging for stuff. And yes, derby adds a whole new realm of working together. Sometimes, but not most of the time, I yearn for the HD pre-Nhs.

I was just thinking last night that I would have liked to have known of Hay Day before neighbourhoods. I am a very independent player and have always liked sand box style games. I do have a neighbourhood but I only started it so my sister and I could find each other since I play through FB and she GC. In the short time I have been playing the game has changed a lot so I imagine that long time players have seen many more. The game is starting to lose its shine for me as the social aspect seems to be becoming the main push with the derby as is evidenced by the inequity of prizes attainable for single player hoods.

I suspect the social element is where the money is.

Still, there are good and bad ways to do it. I hope SC remembers that other farming game, which lost its shine because it started requiring too much social interaction.

The scarcity of expansion items has less to do with the derby and much more to do with bots. Bots on slave farms scan the DD to buy expansion materials either for the master farm or to sell for real world cash on third party sites.

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Originally Posted by jadd806

The scarcity of expansion items has less to do with the derby and much more to do with bots. Bots on slave farms scan the DD to buy expansion materials either for the master farm or to sell for real world cash on third party sites.

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while bots do surely have a part, the scarcity of expansion items is most likely neighbourhoods. A lot of players sell their excess materials within their own neighbourhoods now

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Originally Posted by Melly2014

while bots do surely have a part, the scarcity of expansion items is most likely neighbourhoods. A lot of players sell their excess materials within their own neighbourhoods now

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Yes -- that's what I do. When I used to get extras I'd trade over in the trading thread, but now I am trading in my NH. I also now know that some of my neighbors ALWAYS need Xs, and so if I don't need them, where I would former,y sell or trade them, now I give them away.

Another derby thread that should have been started in the derby section. Just cause you make the title not have the word derby in it, it's still a derby thread.

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Originally Posted by charliedagg

Another derby thread that should have been started in the derby section. Just cause you make the title not have the word derby in it, it's still a derby thread.

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I disagree. Just because the word "derby" has been used does not make it a derby thread. What is being discussed is just gerneral memories of a more simple game. When we discussed things, traded, got ideas from the forum only. When you logged into the game and checked the flags on friends bar to see who needed help. Scouring the dd for that last elusive bolt. Looking in lock boxes for that stake for your last plot of land. Face palming because you forgot to plant tomatoes once again and there were none in the dd. No nh to ask in for that bolt, stake or tomatoes. You played the game solo. If it wasnt in the dd or friends rss you did without.

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Originally Posted by Bestajunior

I disagree. Just because the word "derby" has been used does not make it a derby thread. What is being discussed is just gerneral memories of a more simple game. When we discussed things, traded, got ideas from the forum only. When you logged into the game and checked the flags on friends bar to see who needed help. Scouring the dd for that last elusive bolt. Looking in lock boxes for that stake for your last plot of land. Face palming because you forgot to plant tomatoes once again and there were none in the dd. No nh to ask in for that bolt, stake or tomatoes. You played the game solo. If it wasnt in the dd or friends rss you did without.

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agreed. This is a reminiscing thread!

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Originally Posted by charliedagg

Another derby thread that should have been started in the derby section. Just cause you make the title not have the word derby in it, it's still a derby thread.

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If you fail to see what the post is really about, im sorry. It is not meant to be in the derby section. Like besta said, this is memories, not for a subforum about something i no longer enjoy.

I also started in the pre-NH days. I still remember my first few in-game friends with fondness -- one in particular. Every time I helped his boat he would come and buy something from my RSS to acknowledge my assistance. I could visualize him strolling up the road to my farm. I adopted the same procedure. It was a simpler time.

Then there was Emile. He was the best in-game friend ever. He stocked his RSS daily with a fantastic selection of goods and I did the same. We purchased judiciously from each other. The arrival of NHs made this almost an impossible task for me because many NH members simply couldn't resist raiding my pizzas, jams, etc., despite my protestations and I didn't want to evict them over it. I did the best I could by stocking my stand when I knew Emile would be online and I always rushed to help his boats to compensate for any lack in my RSS. He never joined a NH himself so I never had a chance to meet him face-to-face, so to speak. Sadly, the arrival of the towns seemed to push him over the edge and one sad day I checked his farm to see the name changed to "Thank You & Good-bye". I swear I shed a few real tears.

On the positive side of the changes, the arrival of NHs did bring in a social aspect to the game that I welcomed -- for the most part. There are some incredibly disturbed people playing this game, and I have (virtually) encountered more than I care to remember. There are also some lovely souls that make it all worthwhile.

As for the derby, it has brought out the dark side in a lot of people. A little more foresight in its implementation might have saved a great deal of grief. Supercell, however, has some brilliant minds on board. Perhaps they will manage to get the contents of the Pandora's box under some semblance of control in the end. Meanwhile, I have cows to milk.

I played hay day before I started clash. It was before the game got confusing and I deleted it because everyone sold the same stuff and I could never play the game like I wanted to with the stuff being sold.

I don't miss anything. The game has evolved and I think it's a lot more interesting now. It would probably feel boring if it changed back to pre nh's. It is pretty funny though. I have a bacon and eggs boat coming and I've been trying to search the dd for them. It's pretty difficult to find them!! It does kind of make you smile and reminisce.. ;)

I had a old account before neighborhoods, much easier back then. Newspaper was loaded with useful items, everyone helped out, nobody's farm was that big making help easy, production was simple, not so many different things unlike now. It was a much better time. I actually did a study off of 5 newspapers and figured out the average newspapers ads consist of about 29/53 wheat, 44/53 animal products and any crops and only 9 left for other stuff.

The nice thing about HD is you can make it what you want by your choices in the game. My daughter wants a simpler game, so she has not opened the town. She FINALLY opened the mine with the advent of the Derby, but only because she likes the mining tasks. She has not bought any smelters or the jewelry maker.

For a while, she did not fish, but decided eventually that she liked the lobsters well enough to want to play with them.

In my travels through my friends list, I have several who are not in NHs, or who have not fixed up the Derby box, or opened the mine. They are playing a simpler game. I have started to ignore boats and focus on the town.

You can always play your way by engaging in activities you like and ignoring activities you DONT like :)

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Originally Posted by Janilee

I suspect the social element is where the money is.

Still, there are good and bad ways to do it. I hope SC remembers that other farming game, which lost its shine because it started requiring too much social interaction.

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I left two high level farms in different farming games because of this and I am pretty sure that others must have done the same.

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Originally Posted by YeOldeNannyGoat

I also started in the pre-NH days. I still remember my first few in-game friends with fondness -- one in particular. Every time I helped his boat he would come and buy something from my RSS to acknowledge my assistance. I could visualize him strolling up the road to my farm. I adopted the same procedure. It was a simpler time.

Then there was Emile. He was the best in-game friend ever. He stocked his RSS daily with a fantastic selection of goods and I did the same. We purchased judiciously from each other. The arrival of NHs made this almost an impossible task for me because many NH members simply couldn't resist raiding my pizzas, jams, etc., despite my protestations and I didn't want to evict them over it. I did the best I could by stocking my stand when I knew Emile would be online and I always rushed to help his boats to compensate for any lack in my RSS. He never joined a NH himself so I never had a chance to meet him face-to-face, so to speak. Sadly, the arrival of the towns seemed to push him over the edge and one sad day I checked his farm to see the name changed to "Thank You & Good-bye". I swear I shed a few real tears.

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What a lovely story :D I have had a similar experience with a farm I have followed for the longest time. We would "communicate" by helping each other out with boats and leaving each other special treats in our RSS. My story has a happy ending, unlike yours, and we are now FB friends. I need to use Google translate from time to time as her English is limited but a wonderful friendship has been forged without the benefit of a NH.

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Originally Posted by PerkyCox

The nice thing about HD is you can make it what you want by your choices in the game. My daughter wants a simpler game, so she has not opened the town. She FINALLY opened the mine with the advent of the Derby, but only because she likes the mining tasks. She has not bought any smelters or the jewelry maker.

For a while, she did not fish, but decided eventually that she liked the lobsters well enough to want to play with them.

In my travels through my friends list, I have several who are not in NHs, or who have not fixed up the Derby box, or opened the mine. They are playing a simpler game. I have started to ignore boats and focus on the town.

You can always play your way by engaging in activities you like and ignoring activities you DONT like :)

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Very true. I pretty much play the game my way, only having created a NH for the purpose of connecting with my sister in the game. I just hope that future changes don't make this difficult for those not wanting a social game.

I was just saying to my friend I'm giving Derby a miss for a while. There's only me and her in a nh so that's no drama. But I do miss the daily dirt being a bit more interesting. I've just sold all my EM in the daily dirt within seconds it was snapped up.

In my meager opinion supercell needs to do Derby as an event so it's sprung on people with rewards just that week. They need to do something about nh "hogging" the EM but I'm not sure what. Maybe have a no nh event for a week. Show people how it used to be. I've not been on hay day for about 10 days now, which means I've not bought diamonds and yes I normally do I buy every 7-10 days so I can hire Tom and increase my queue slots.

Do I miss the "good ole days" ? Interesting question so I will share my experience with the game throughout the years. So a reading disclaimer is on order here. It's my personal experience as a player like anyone else.

Let's see... I remember a game which didn't even have a coffee kiosk yet, no machine masteries, no land expansions whatsoever, no fishing area at all, no town, no neighbourhoods, no derbies, no events, no Alfred and gift cards, no helping with boats in any way. So yes the game for me has evolved quite a bit during my playing years.

I remember a Daily Dirt full of bacon & eggs and more useless eggs back in the day when eggs actually were pretty useless. Now with the addition of lots of machines and recipes I find myself buying them frequently in large numbers I might add something I wouldn't have imagined back then. Plenty of old threads can be found on that subject. The DD was simply flooded with any kind of animal products, crops and loom items hardly anyone bought.

Premium food products and expansion items have always been very scarce. I remember land expansions and their items being added to the game. At that time they were impossible to come by. Every farmer was expanding and no one was selling. They were being traded in the trade thread with ratios going up to 3/4 BEM for 1 LEM. As time went on they became useless for many farmers and they could be found pretty easy until another update giving us more land at which point they became non existing again. We have seen this a couple of times now and in fact we still see it now with the most recent land addition. It is just the cycle of the game.

Just like new products flooding the DD when a new machine arrives because lots of farmers are out there trying to get those mastery stars asap. Cloche hats & tofu dogs anyone ? :saywhat: Just give it time and those too will disappear. We saw the same thing with berry smoothies not too long ago and has anyone tried to buy any recently ? You may wonder why this isnt the case with pasta products. The answer is probably simple pasta products all require dairy and some sugar (hidden in the form of tomato sauce).

As for the DD lacking variety I really do not think the derby is to blame for that. I fail to see the relation between the two. I can understand players now selling / trading more premium items in their neighborhoods however neighborhoods do not equal derby. In the old days we were all on our own and it could be really hard to find that last item you needed for something. Now it is much easier to get that one item you need within your hood. If you run out of a crop all I have to do is ask and I am all set to go again etc. I have spent days looking for that one last bolt or nail to upgrade now I can get is much faster. So maybe the DD is lacking more variety however with the accessibility of hoods it cancels each other out when it comes to finding the items you need.

Personally I don't really need coins so I hardly sell anything I produce. I use it to play the town or the occasional boat if it's easy. So for me it was the addition of the town caused me to have less extras to sell. Between trucks, boats and town there are a lot of orders to fill and coins is the one I need the least. So I will happily convert my product for XP and other random stuff that comes with doing town and boats.

As for the derby it is nice to finish in the top 3 however if we don't I am not fussed either it is just nice to get some of the horseshoe prizes for a little bit more effort then you would normally do anyway. So hey anything to get some extra useful items is worth it in my opinion. It's all about finding a balance that works for you.

To get back to the question of this thread do I miss the "good ole days" ? No I do not.

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Originally Posted by Kolonistje1

Do I miss the "good ole days" ? Interesting question so I will share my experience with the game throughout the years. So a reading disclaimer is on order here. It's my personal experience as a player like anyone else.

Let's see... I remember a game which didn't even have a coffee kiosk yet, no machine masteries, no land expansions whatsoever, no fishing area at all, no town, no neighbourhoods, no derbies, no events, no Alfred and gift cards, no helping with boats in any way. So yes the game for me has evolved quite a bit during my playing years.

I remember a Daily Dirt full of bacon & eggs and more useless eggs back in the day when eggs actually were pretty useless. Now with the addition of lots of machines and recipes I find myself buying them frequently in large numbers I might add something I wouldn't have imagined back then. Plenty of old threads can be found on that subject. The DD was simply flooded with any kind of animal products, crops and loom items hardly anyone bought.

Premium food products and expansion items have always been very scarce. I remember land expansions and their items being added to the game. At that time they were impossible to come by. Every farmer was expanding and no one was selling. They were being traded in the trade thread with ratios going up to 3/4 BEM for 1 LEM. As time went on they became useless for many farmers and they could be found pretty easy until another update giving us more land at which point they became non existing again. We have seen this a couple of times now and in fact we still see it now with the most recent land addition. It is just the cycle of the game.

Just like new products flooding the DD when a new machine arrives because lots of farmers are out there trying to get those mastery stars asap. Cloche hats & tofu dogs anyone ? :saywhat: Just give it time and those too will disappear. We saw the same thing with berry smoothies not too long ago and has anyone tried to buy any recently ? You may wonder why this isnt the case with pasta products. The answer is probably simple pasta products all require dairy and some sugar (hidden in the form of tomato sauce).

As for the DD lacking variety I really do not think the derby is to blame for that. I fail to see the relation between the two. I can understand players now selling / trading more premium items in their neighborhoods however neighborhoods do not equal derby. In the old days we were all on our own and it could be really hard to find that last item you needed for something. Now it is much easier to get that one item you need within your hood. If you run out of a crop all I have to do is ask and I am all set to go again etc. I have spent days looking for that one last bolt or nail to upgrade now I can get is much faster. So maybe the DD is lacking more variety however with the accessibility of hoods it cancels each other out when it comes to finding the items you need.

Personally I don't really need coins so I hardly sell anything I produce. I use it to play the town or the occasional boat if it's easy. So for me it was the addition of the town caused me to have less extras to sell. Between trucks, boats and town there are a lot of orders to fill and coins is the one I need the least. So I will happily convert my product for XP and other random stuff that comes with doing town and boats.

As for the derby it is nice to finish in the top 3 however if we don't I am not fussed either it is just nice to get some of the horseshoe prizes for a little bit more effort then you would normally do anyway. So hey anything to get some extra useful items is worth it in my opinion. It's all about finding a balance that works for you.

To get back to the question of this thread do I miss the "good ole days" ? No I do not.

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you've made some excellent points. However, it's ok if you're in a large neighbourhood to get the last item needed to expand. We were in a large neighbourhood and we're basically bullied out of it unbeknownst to us they all knew each other outside of hay day in the real world so used us and then changed their names to be mean to friend and then to me so we left. We've been put off going back to bigger hoods.
Yes it's nice to finish top 3 in Derby and we have on many occasions but we are also aware that we need a time out and away from Derby. It's become all about the Derby it used to be about how nothing ever died and you could come and go as you please. With the introduction of neighbourhoods and Derbys it's less possible to come and go as please (note not impossible) and then to gain what you want for your playing style as the neighbourhoods have got all the decent stuff and the Derby makes people produce their own produce rather than encouraging a supply and demand.
I agree that there is a cycle to the game and I too remember life before fishing and mines, but with the addition of nh and Derby it has changed too much so the cycles of the game have themselves changed and I'm not sure all of us can or perhaps more importantly want to keep up.

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To get back to the question of this thread do I miss the "good ole days" ? No I do not.

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Kolonistje1, I was thinking of picking apart your essay, to add stupid and boring facts, but chose rather to say, uit was very insightful and your last sentence says it all, "No, I do not."

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Originally Posted by Kolonistje1

Do I miss the "good ole days" ? Interesting question so I will share my experience with the game throughout the years. So a reading disclaimer is on order here. It's my personal experience as a player like anyone else.

Let's see... I remember a game which didn't even have a coffee kiosk yet, no machine masteries, no land expansions whatsoever, no fishing area at all, no town, no neighbourhoods, no derbies, no events, no Alfred and gift cards, no helping with boats in any way. So yes the game for me has evolved quite a bit during my playing years.

I remember a Daily Dirt full of bacon & eggs and more useless eggs back in the day when eggs actually were pretty useless. Now with the addition of lots of machines and recipes I find myself buying them frequently in large numbers I might add something I wouldn't have imagined back then. Plenty of old threads can be found on that subject. The DD was simply flooded with any kind of animal products, crops and loom items hardly anyone bought.

Premium food products and expansion items have always been very scarce. I remember land expansions and their items being added to the game. At that time they were impossible to come by. Every farmer was expanding and no one was selling. They were being traded in the trade thread with ratios going up to 3/4 BEM for 1 LEM. As time went on they became useless for many farmers and they could be found pretty easy until another update giving us more land at which point they became non existing again. We have seen this a couple of times now and in fact we still see it now with the most recent land addition. It is just the cycle of the game.

Just like new products flooding the DD when a new machine arrives because lots of farmers are out there trying to get those mastery stars asap. Cloche hats & tofu dogs anyone ? :saywhat: Just give it time and those too will disappear. We saw the same thing with berry smoothies not too long ago and has anyone tried to buy any recently ? You may wonder why this isnt the case with pasta products. The answer is probably simple pasta products all require dairy and some sugar (hidden in the form of tomato sauce).

As for the DD lacking variety I really do not think the derby is to blame for that. I fail to see the relation between the two. I can understand players now selling / trading more premium items in their neighborhoods however neighborhoods do not equal derby. In the old days we were all on our own and it could be really hard to find that last item you needed for something. Now it is much easier to get that one item you need within your hood. If you run out of a crop all I have to do is ask and I am all set to go again etc. I have spent days looking for that one last bolt or nail to upgrade now I can get is much faster. So maybe the DD is lacking more variety however with the accessibility of hoods it cancels each other out when it comes to finding the items you need.

Personally I don't really need coins so I hardly sell anything I produce. I use it to play the town or the occasional boat if it's easy. So for me it was the addition of the town caused me to have less extras to sell. Between trucks, boats and town there are a lot of orders to fill and coins is the one I need the least. So I will happily convert my product for XP and other random stuff that comes with doing town and boats.

As for the derby it is nice to finish in the top 3 however if we don't I am not fussed either it is just nice to get some of the horseshoe prizes for a little bit more effort then you would normally do anyway. So hey anything to get some extra useful items is worth it in my opinion. It's all about finding a balance that works for you.

To get back to the question of this thread do I miss the "good ole days" ? No I do not.

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Thid post reminds me of a book I read by Otto Bettman a long time ago called "The 'Good Old Days: They were TERRIBLE!" about the modern romanticized ideal of life in the late 19th century, when life was ostensibly better and simpler, and the awful reality of the filth, crime, food adulteration, and horrific medicine that folks then had to deal with. It's a great book, available on Amazon. It will open your eyes to the power of nostalgia to gloss over hardships.

I remember this this same game, K. It could be a very difficult and frustrating game to play. I discovered the forum out of sheer frustration that I needed 2 bolts to expand, could not play the game becuse my barn was full, and I was stuck for 2 days. I thought, surely I can't be the only one and googled "stuck in hay day" -- and found the trading thread. Without that lifeline I'd have deleted this game in the summer of 2013.

I remember the old "MORE eggs and B&E?" threads, and the endless griping about all the wheat, eggs, B&E and sweaters in the DD.

I remember not being able to open boat crates for help - FINALLY we could ask for help and BOATS WERE DOABLE FOR ME!! Woo hoo (and I remember when the number of help crates was reduced to 3).

I remember the endless enraged "I only want a particular neighbor to buy my things in my shop" threads, when there was NO WAY to communicate in-game with your selected neighbir AT ALL, except through farm names. REALLY -- I saw farm names over loaded shops that said "only 4 Dora, U leave" or my fave "don't buy w/o PM".

I was there for the first land expansions, new fishing area, new town, new machines, new pets, NHs and now the Derby.

Each change/addition brought moans and cheers, as those who wanted new challenges adapted their game and those who liked things the way they were before muddled on.

I agree that this game is better. It has more options, more things to do, more ways to play. It is easier, therefore more fun, because your friends can now communicate in the NH with you and help.

Remember-- the "good old days" of Hay Day -- they were Terrible!!! LOL

@ Kikki,


I do understand what you're saying but also think the beauty of this game is you can choose to do the things that do interest and enjoy you and ignore the parts that don't.


The griefs I am mostly hearing around the forums isn't really about the derby and neighborhoods but the problem deeper beneath the surface and eventually all boil down to "you're in the wrong NH". And with that I mean an NH that doesn't fit with your preference and playing styles. I have seen many players who share your ideas and thoughts as far as the derby is concerned. I realize it can be a jungle out there but eventually its all a matter of finding or creating the right hood for you, something like a no derby hood for example. You don't even need to be in a really large hood if you dont like just a handful of people could be enough.


I do realize derbies have been added to the game after neighborhoods and split people into different groups as far as derby preferences go but the game changes and thus people change. We saw similar things in clash with the introduction of clan wars. So if you want a competitive derby hood they are out there as I am sure there are hoods who don't care about the derby whatsoever. It's all about finding the right place which suits with your way to play the game.

You can also still solo the game if you prefer. Yes it can be very hard to find that last so and so for an upgrade but quite frankly that hardly changed. As you can read from perky's and my experience we have been in the predicament trying to get that last item we needed for an upgrade and couldn't find it for days.

@WillieBDare, thank you :o

@Perky,

Sounds like an interesting book and seems very fitting for what I mean here. The good old days for HD weren't necessarily better. However its very normal for people to romanticize the good old days as they often remember the good things but a lot of the bad is forgotten.

I too joined to forum way back when I was in a jam. I was on my last boat for the Captain achievement and had just leveled up and of course it needed something from that one machine I didn't have yet. It wouldn't be finished building in time. Luckily I found people nice enough to help me out. That was even before the Captain help thread. And no the DD didn't have it either. It was either vanilla ice cream or carrot juice don't exactly remember which.

I remember all those threads vividly including the one where people met neighbours who didn't sell B&E. So yes I agree the good old days don't seem that good remembering all of that.

I started playing Christmas 2012 - the animals were all rugged up for winter, the horses were on the horizon and I was enchanted. I loved the challenge of figuring things out - testing to see the consequences of watering plants, but not knowing how to place an alert on my plants. Finally, I read a post in the forum and worked out how to do it. Then I realised there were achievements for watering plants, and raced through the DD watering as many plants as I could. No fear then that you would pick up a stalker or raider, they didn't exist as far as I knew.

Speaking of of the forum, it took me ages to work out how to register - even emailing SC support didn't provide any help. I remember the thrill of finally being able to post a reply to a thread. Finally I could take part in all those wonderful conversations I had been reading for so long.

I remember how Hay Day became a refuge for me when I was going through a particularly difficult time; how the routine of feeding my animals and helping my friends and followers and sending boats down the river saved my sanity. It was calming and relaxing, even if it took me ages to find that last tape and upgrade my barn.

Then I met a wonderful group of women through the forum and wonder of wonders, neighbourhoods were introduced and suddenly we could all talk to each other in real time. It wasn't all sunshine and roses, but a core group emerged and remains as firmly bonded as we were before the derby, plus we have made some new, equally wonderful friends along the way. We have always valued friendship and hold it above the derby, so have survived.

So, some changes have been for the good, IMHO, and some for the bad. Do I miss the good ole days? Yes, and no. I said right from the start that the derby was an anathema to the Hay Day ethos, and sadly I have been proved right. I would love to go back to pre-derby days, but I would not like to go back to pre-NH days. I love each and everyone of my cubby buddies, and for me, they are the reason I keep playing.

What would be cool is if you could downgrade and upgrade any app as much as you like, then any game like hay day you can downgrade to pre neighborhoods and have more fun.

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What would be cool is if you could downgrade and upgrade any app as much as you like, then any game like hay day you can downgrade to pre neighborhoods and have more fun.

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You can do that now by leaving your NH and never joining another one -- no heavy coding required.

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To get back to the question of this thread do I miss the "good ole days" ? No I do not.

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I remember the forum disarray before you, Tink Tink, and AussieBob became mods. Don't miss that.

I am with Perky and K. . Do I miss the old days. Well I do miss the captains helper thread. I loved working with those folks. Some still play. One went off to have a baby, we don't chat anymore, but I get really excited when one of them waters my trees or helps my boats. Other than that. No, not really.

I get a laugh every time someone complains about the DD not being what it used to be. IT WAS NEVER that way. As a matter of fact, I never looked through it. It was just as useless then as it is now. And then there are times........ And I agree, it was just as impossible to upgrade the barn from the paper as it is now, but now, I get so much more from my NH. People complain that the NHs are the reason there is less expansion materials in the paper. There was rarely any expansion stuff in the paper. But now I can expand BECAUSE of the NHs. Before then, the Captains helpers would help each other expand, so we had a Nh before NHs existed. I was lucky, they asked me to join them. I think that was why I didn't like the NHs at first. I wasn't sure I would find as great a group of people. I have and they are great

As for the Derby. Nah. I don't like it much but it only lasts two days for me. I do my tasks and then I go about playing as usual.

But as for everything else. Nope. Don't miss it one bit! When the forum gets too deep and cranky, I just go away for a while. (Need to do that a bit more I think). Sooner or later, things get back to normal.

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Thid post reminds me of a book I read by Otto Bettman a long time ago called "The 'Good Old Days: They were TERRIBLE!" about the modern romanticized ideal of life in the late 19th century, when life was ostensibly better and simpler, and the awful reality of the filth, crime, food adulteration, and horrific medicine that folks then had to deal with. It's a great book, available on Amazon. It will open your eyes to the power of nostalgia to gloss over hardships.

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An excellent book, worthwhile reading. I read it years ago and it certainly cured me of a tendency to overly romanticize that period in our history.


This game evolves! It is up to us to figure out how to evolve with it.

I've read a number of threads about discord in neighborhoods and problems with the derby - the two often connected in some player's lament. As with so many other (much more important) aspects of life there are two key areas where so much can go right or go wrong. The first, and most important, is communication and the second is setting expectations. When this game throws a curve ball at you, the better you are able to clearly set and communicate expectations, the happier everyone will be. The players and NHs that are flourishing are the ones that have figured this out.

I was in a hood until recently where we got some real mixed signals from our leader. He bragged about getting nothing but gold, while ranting about SC at every opportunity. He wanted to bring back a highly unpopular former neighbor because he would be "good for the derby" even though we were already easily taking gold every single week. Our previously laid-back, low-key, and not-very-chatty leader became so garrulous, his time on NH chat was like a series of derby-themed lectures that sent many of us into hiding. Sometimes, our former leader would continue pontificating 10 minutes after the last person in chat said "be back later." :p

In a surreal twist, when things finally came to a head, our leader claimed the derby had made the NH too competitive. Instead of trying to fix the real problems or even having an honest conversation with the people who he had played with for a year or more, he left; he simply left. Except he didn't simply leave. He came onto the forum and whined about his former co-leader who had been left to pick up the pieces, and he posted unkind jabs about his former subjects - I mean neighbors - while they were doing nothing more than trying to move on in a new neighborhood after he abandoned them.

So, do I miss the good ol' days? Yes and no. I miss the shining neighborhood it was once my privilege to call my Hay Day home and those few former neighbors who stayed behind for reasons of their own. I miss my former leader as I wonder how he became someone other than the person I thought he was. But I am thrilled to be in a new NH with friends old and new, where my input is sought and respected - where my neighbors and I are invited to help decide the kind of neighborhood that ours will be. To be among friendly, funny, like-minded people? There's nothing to miss: I embrace them every day.

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I would love to go back to pre-derby days, but I would not like to go back to pre-NH days. I love each and everyone of my cubby buddies, and for me, they are the reason I keep playing.

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Agree you, i love my hood n frnds i made there. Its jus tat derby, i i wish sc has never included it in the game

If anything, the derby has brought our neighborhood closer together. We laugh and joke and we play hard, but nobody is harassing anybody about their play style. I'm sorry so many on this forum are having such difficulty, but it's not universal.

I do miss 1 thing from the old days. back in the old days you needed someone to fall in love with you....you did it yourself. You didn't need no black magic specialist to help you out.

The "good old days" differ depending on when we started playing. When I started Hay Day in its sixth month the thing that most impressed me about the game was the encouragement of kindness and being helpful...back then, anonymously. It seemed to me a beautiful concept to create a world where nothing is harmed and people were exemplifying the gentler traits of humankind to fulfill the structure of the game.

Since then the game has changed a lot. Many players got upset when the boat leaderboard was introduced, sure that the element of competition would ruin the gentle nature of the game. It did not. Many players got upset about the prospect of neighborhoods, partly because at the time you couldn't ask your current "neighbors", but also because of the element of exclusivity it added to the game. Some, including me, thought neighborhoods would ruin the game. They didn't.

Now we have a more challenging game addition because we are in neighborhoods, many of us very happily, and find our groups divided as to how much derby participation is desirable. Utopia - we all want the same thing be it intense competition in the derby, or at the opposite end, no participation at all. But a glance at the forum reveals many of us are struggling to find our way. Some are called upon to face the painful prospect of leaving a familiar and appreciated neighborhood, and long term friends, to find a nh that fits their amended playing style. For some, this has been a hurtful situation. I hope sc will do what it can to soften this transition.

So, do I miss the old Hay Day? Sure. Back then I was enamored. I was head over heels addicted. I couldn't play enough! I couldn't be on the forum enough. I embraced the beauty of the game. I was mesmerized! And, it was a kinder game. I miss that.

But I wouldn't go back. Through our neighborhood (and on the forum) I have had the privilege of getting to know people, wonderful, fine people i never would have met had it not been for the ever expanding Hay Day. My life has been enriched immeasurably, I have learned by example the meaning of true generosity. I have witnessed acts of kindness, moments of angst, and through it all come to admire the character and strength of the hay day players i get to call neighbors and friends. How incredibly cool!






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I do miss 1 thing from the old days. back in the old days you needed someone to fall in love with you....you did it yourself. You didn't need no black magic specialist to help you out.

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ROTFLMAO. Thank you Tiaxotrax for the hearty chuckle.

It depends on how you felt about the good ol days. The nhs have expanded chat, thus making it more entertaining. But as hd has grown, so has the greed. The derby is a clear indicator of that. NHs are spending diamonds on extra tasks just to win. If thats your drive, i applaud you in your determination. From the forum and my own nh experiences, i have seen the true nature in people, the lack of disrespect for everyones real life and real commitments in the pursuit of a trophy. SC knows we will all continue to play, and spend money no matter how hard we stomp our feet and hold our breath about decorations now costing diamonds instead of coins. Me, im taking it back to the old school. Decorate my farm (my pride and joy !), banter and laugh with my peeps, try our best to do well in the derby, but always remember. ....it is a game we love, our retreat. Dont lose sight of why you really play :)

Well said, Willow. It was a gentler time, and I do miss that. I really hate all this competitive derby nonsense and the disharmony it has brought. I yearn for the days when it was all sweetness and fun.

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The "good old days" differ depending on when we started playing. When I started Hay Day in its sixth month the thing that most impressed me about the game was the encouragement of kindness and being helpful...back then, anonymously. It seemed to me a beautiful concept to create a world where nothing is harmed and people were exemplifying the gentler traits of humankind to fulfill the structure of the game.

Since then the game has changed a lot. Many players got upset when the boat leaderboard was introduced, sure that the element of competition would ruin the gentle nature of the game. It did not. Many players got upset about the prospect of neighborhoods, partly because at the time you couldn't ask your current "neighbors", but also because of the element of exclusivity it added to the game. Some, including me, thought neighborhoods would ruin the game. They didn't.

Now we have a more challenging game addition because we are in neighborhoods, many of us very happily, and find our groups divided as to how much derby participation is desirable. Utopia - we all want the same thing be it intense competition in the derby, or at the opposite end, no participation at all. But a glance at the forum reveals many of us are struggling to find our way. Some are called upon to face the painful prospect of leaving a familiar and appreciated neighborhood, and long term friends, to find a nh that fits their amended playing style. For some, this has been a hurtful situation. I hope sc will do what it can to soften this transition.

So, do I miss the old Hay Day? Sure. Back then I was enamored. I was head over heels addicted. I couldn't play enough! I couldn't be on the forum enough. I embraced the beauty of the game. I was mesmerized! And, it was a kinder game. I miss that.

But I wouldn't go back. Through our neighborhood (and on the forum) I have had the privilege of getting to know people, wonderful, fine people i never would have met had it not been for the ever expanding Hay Day. My life has been enriched immeasurably, I have learned by example the meaning of true generosity. I have witnessed acts of kindness, moments of angst, and through it all come to admire the character and strength of the hay day players i get to call neighbors and friends. How incredibly cool!

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Delightful post Willow!

I would say I miss being able to load my barn with 500 eggs in a very short time during a Visitor Event.
I miss having so many machines and crops yet to unlock.
I miss being able to move up a level or so in a day. At level 85 it now takes me usually weeks to move up a level.

But so much has been added! That its that much better now.
I don't enjoy the ducks or the town so much. And that's one thing that hasn't changed about Hay Day. I can still play my game my way.

I would say the Derby is what you make it.
I can still play it my way. And any person or group of people who might be trying to change my style of play to suit their drama or desires isn't worth my time.

This morning I was all excited again because it's Derby Day!
and we have been happily checking the task board to find tasks that we enjoy doing.
I have been clearing stuff out of my barn that I had stored for the double XP truck event and while I'm putting it in my shop I'm thinking some people can really use this stuff to complete their boat, truck or town tasks.

And as I am seeing a few NHs keeping up with us in this Derby I feel happy because we are playing with others who enjoy the Derby too.
Whether they are in for a no holds barred or a friendly competition or just-want-to-get-horseshoes doesn't really matter to me. I don't care who wins.

I rather enjoy the changes this year. I have not had the same experience as many, who stress over the derby. As co-leader, I trash low point (<150) tasks a couple times a day, and pick tasks that I enjoy doing. Some weeks we place top 3, and some we don't. Not a big deal to me.

I also like the added neighborhoods, makes it easier for me to find people to help to get thank you letters.

I also do not remember a time when the DD was diverse in its offerings, or plentiful with EMs. It does seem a little worse now, though, so I guess I miss that much at least.

Let's see if I remember the good ol'days ...

A Daily Dirt lacking in diversity, check. Back then it was eggs, eggs, B&E, wheat, B&E, eggs, indigo, repeat as needed.

Scarce expansion materials, check. Eggs, eggs, B&E, wheat, eggs, TAPE!!! ... too late :(. Eggs, eggs, wheat, B&E, etc.

Communication issues, check. These were solved with creative use of farm names: "Sushi in shop, [insert farm name here]" from a farm I followed (my boat needed it), to which I responded by changing my name to "Thank you, [insert farm name]" - I miss them :). I hope you can all remember a similar interaction. Of course, there were also farm names called "Help my boat!" filling the newspaper - most with no boat to help, only some with a "please" tacked on the end. And there were other interesting messages in farm names occasionally, like "Stop selling eggs!!!" which was so funny 'cause it was so true!

Fast forward to now and it looks a bit better:

The Daily Dirt still lacks diversity. It has fewer eggs, and I even buy them now (full price!) because we have demand for them. Wool and white sweaters abounded and were replaced (thank you gift shop) by maps (thank goodness that's over), milk and bacon are scarcer now (that's the pets for you), and now it's cloche hats and veggie dogs. Demand for animal products are much better balanced now and crops are more plentiful (wheat and indigo mostly) but we'll see what the next update brings.

Expansion materials are actually easier to come by thanks to pets and townies. They still drop unevenly (we all get caught in the random number generator trap - randomly is not evenly, unfortunately) but there's some help there too (or destruction of the newspaper, depending on your perspective) as we can now communicate beyond farm names with ...

Neighbourhoods! By far the biggest change to the farm since I began playing. Goodbye newspaper advertisements, hello cliques and massive increases of negative feelings (remind you of anything? hint, hint, *cough* derby) as "thieves" (formerly friendly followers/helpers) hit people's roadside shops. And then came neighbourhood chat - no more farm name messages now! We can actually speak to each other! And the neighbourhood reshuffle started. This group doesn't talk, that group talks too much, this group sells things at default, that group at one coin, this group doesn't advertise things in the paper, that group does, this group plays the town, that group doesn't ...


But things settled down. Find a balance in playing style and find (or make) a neighbourhood that suits it and the derby issues will settle down too. The derby hasn't changed the game any more than the neighbourhoods or town or chat functions did. But it might require another neighbourhood shuffle dance as we all sort ourselves out.

What I miss about the "good ol'days" is having something to strive for on an ongoing basis - and that's not something that was affected by Supercell throwing us a new twist. That's a problem with levelling up past the point that the game is focused on. No more products/machines to unlock, no more pets to buy, no more masteries (well, almost), no more achievements ... This I'd like addressed.

The changes brought on by Supercell adding fishing or boats or neighbourhoods or the town or the train or the bees or the derby to the game are minor. They just add another piece to the puzzle and finding a new balance is part of the fun. Of course, I have a neighbourhood that suits my play even with the derby included. There are a lot of posts here from farmers who've added the derby to their game instead of letting it take over their focus. I think there's a valuable lesson in there somewhere, and I firmly believe there's an end to the strife that's touching the forum with all the derby talk. It starts with Supercell deciding the derby looks how they want it (not how individuals do) and leaving it be so we can adjust. And yes, it includes changing neighbourhoods for some. But on the other side of it all, there'll be a thread started down the line referencing the derby as the good ol'days. Silly future farmers :smirk:

Maybe those who think the DD is worse now are actually comparing it to back when THEY themselves were a lower level. Lower levels sell dairy and sugar and expansion materials because they don't need the dairy and sugar to make so many things and they can't store those expansion materials because they are busy trying to make money first. The last time I found some real treasures in the DD was when I tapped on the farm of a level 27 farm. You need a lot less to expand then so each item isn't as valuable and any excess has to be sold. I remember actually using diamonds for that last bolt where now, I wouldn't dare. I know it will come eventually. I still get much better items shopping for my friends tab.

So maybe things look better from the DD point of view simply because of the level of the person reminiscing. In other words the DD wasn't better last month or last year but better at level 10 than level 110.

The Derby changed the game in a big way and has driven so many people crazy and split up a lot of hoods. I do miss pre derby sometimes, but i enjoy it now more than when it first came in to the game.

The key is to find a hood that isn't 100% focused on winning the derby every week. My hood gets it's 5 horseshoes every single week and that's enough for us, if we get in the top 3 rewards then that is just a bonus for us.

We were competitive and winning every week when it first came out...pre-trophy, and it was causing problems.

Now we just take a relaxed approach and have a much happier hood because of it. :thumbsup:

My neighborhood use to chat every day, be calm. But once derby task came, no chats, no one helps, no one does anything but derby task! That's why I made my own neighborhood.

Aahh Tigger,
Fond memories of that group and I still smile when I run across a few who still play in game.

@Willow,
Part of these delightful memories such as people helping out of kindness especially when there were no gift cards yet I also share however I also remember the darker side. Discussions about shop raiders and even RSS stalkers go back since very early on. Oh how much we wanted to be able to remove followers back then. Some may not remember but we haven't always been able to delete followers. Discussions like people stealing trades or people not doing their end of a trade etc are not exactly new either. So it wasn't all sunshine around the farm in the "good old days"

In a large community such as Hay Day there are all sorts of people from all walks of life. People with different ideas and opinions, people with different approaches to the game, people who find certain elements extremely fun or not so much. These things will show in NHs where there is conflicting playing styles especially where the derby is concerned so its important for a group of "like minded" players to find each other.

In general
as Tigg and 00becker and others mentioned I can't remember a DD ever being really good. BEM are always and always have been very scarce same as for SEM although they seem a bit easier. Land expansions however is a different story. If you were a newer player at one point you could easily find those in the DD this was between a long period of time of no expansions being added to the game. Lots of players finished their expanding and they started to show in the DD more and more. Then a new piece of land came along and as soon as the update hit the appstores the LEM vanished completely.

Slowly they were returning again until the recent addition. I haven't even finished yet I know some players have but my hood has several still working on them however people are starting to finish their expansions. Now if there is no other uses for them introduced in the near future we will eventually start seeing them more and more again in the DD. It is just the natural cycle of the DD. One day cloche hats and tofu dogs will almost disappear just like berry smoothies and wooly chaps are not as abundant as they once were. When land expansions were first added and no one had them they were even harder to come by since we now have many more sources of getting expansion items compared to a few years ago.

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I remember the forum disarray before you, Tink Tink, and AussieBob became mods. Don't miss that.

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Haha I also remember those days well and thank you! :o Still happy to be of service!

It would be so easy for Supercell to address this issue - simply spin off Hay Day into Hay Day Solo - the exact same game without neighborhoods or the Derby. They could either allow you to migrate your current farm or make you start from scratch. Either way, everyone goes home happy. You could even have it both ways by keeping your current farm in the current game and starting a new one in the solo game.

(Then they could spin off Hay Day Solo - Derby version, adding a single player Derby version. Now they have three games churning out revenue in place of one.)

Otherwise, one of the other farming games is going to clone the original (there are close imitations now) and suck up all the players who remember how peaceful it used to be.

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It would be so easy for Supercell to address this issue - simply spin off Hay Day into Hay Day Solo - the exact same game without neighborhoods or the Derby. They could either allow you to migrate your current farm or make you start from scratch. Either way, everyone goes home happy. You could even have it both ways by keeping your current farm in the current game and starting a new one in the solo game.

(Then they could spin off Hay Day Solo - Derby version, adding a single player Derby version. Now they have three games churning out revenue in place of one.)

Otherwise, one of the other farming games is going to clone the original (there are close imitations now) and suck up all the players who remember how peaceful it used to be.

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Cbt, they could churn out a 100 different versions and there will always be someonebthat isn't satisfied. Ppl gave been moaning and groaning about the same things since I started playing 2 years ago. The players are the different and the game has changed, but it's the same complaint, even as the game has evolved.

The rest is not directed at you Cbt. Just wanted you to know, so you didn't think I was attacking you.

Ppl need to remember it's just a game, not life (I know someone is going jump on me for saying that). Nothing is perfect, but the world rolls on. DD will always be loaded with lots of junk and not what we want. This game in many way is an imitation of life. There will always be gives, but a lot more takers. And takers only share what benefits them. So the DD will always be loaded mostly with junk that you need to weed through to find the good stuff.

I will share one thing I've observed. The longer you play and the style in which you play determines what things show up in the DD. It's the algorithm they use to run the game. I've learned the new farms see a lot more expansion material in their DD. Again it's much like in real life. Things where so much simpler when we were kids, then we grow up and realize if we had only known what we knew today back then, things would have been easier on us. In reality, we needed those lessons to recognize the things we know today.

So everyone: Chin Up and Play On!

Cbt has a point but why would you have a completely different version just for single player derbys? Single player should still have live newspapers and some online features but no derby or neighborhoods. And to convert farms, they would have to mess with the player database and have a unique code for every player that can only be used once to convert their farm to hay day solo. Otherwise, great concept!

Remember also that the DD is shown to you by level, so that lower level farmers get editions with other lower level farms, and these farmers are selling lots of butter, cheeses, sugars and even EMs, because that's all they can make or hold. :)

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@ Kikki,

I do understand what you're saying but also think the beauty of this game is you can choose to do the things that do interest and enjoy you and ignore the parts that don't....

@Perky,

...The good old days for HD weren't necessarily better. However its very normal for people to romanticize the good old days as they often remember the good things but a lot of the bad is forgotten...

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First of all, thank you to the OP for starting the thread and walking us down memory lane.

I feel that I'm blessed because I started playing in June 2014 which was several months after the neighborhood was introduced. I know I wouldn't have enjoyed the game as much if neighborhoods didn't exist.

Prior to playing HD, I was playing Clash and appreciated the generosity from my clanmates and reciprocated. I was hoping players in the neighborhoods I joined would be just as generous and I wasn't disappointed.

BTW, the "good ole days" I missed is Tireless Tom bringing me items without doing a celebratory dance at the end. ;)

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I will share one thing I've observed. The longer you play and the style in which you play determines what things show up in the DD. It's the algorithm they use to run the game. I've learned the new farms see a lot more expansion material in their DD. Again it's much like in real life. Things where so much simpler when we were kids, then we grow up and realize if we had only known what we knew today back then, things would have been easier on us. In reality, we needed those lessons to recognize the things we know today.

So everyone: Chin Up and Play On!

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Speak more. Teach us! :)

What style of play leads to more variety in DD ads? I'll try it.

At our hood I decided to de stress over the derby.. Everyone does what they can, everyone can delete tasks, do one do five..who cares. The prizes for 1/2/3 are not worth the effort and stress they cause. They way supercell has messed with the derby to make it fair for everyone means we have no chance being anywhere near top, we used to at least have a chance(. 1/4/1 trophies) but we always manage to get 5 horseshoes. we help each other regardless of wether it's a derby task or not.. We are a hood of high and low levels, young and old players....

The good ole days of the DD trick...man, those were good times! :smirk::o


Miss u, buddy :(

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It would be so easy for Supercell to address this issue - simply spin off Hay Day into Hay Day Solo - the exact same game without neighborhoods or the Derby. They could either allow you to migrate your current farm or make you start from scratch. Either way, everyone goes home happy. You could even have it both ways by keeping your current farm in the current game and starting a new one in the solo game.

(Then they could spin off Hay Day Solo - Derby version, adding a single player Derby version. Now they have three games churning out revenue in place of one.)

Otherwise, one of the other farming games is going to clone the original (there are close imitations now) and suck up all the players who remember how peaceful it used to be.

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Why would SC need to do that and go through all that extra work when you already can do exactly that in the current game. You can play solo or be in a 1 person NH. Every version would still have the possibility to add friends through GC and or FB and people would still be selling items unadvertised so they can have first pick. This option wouldn't make the DD any better.

The items you want to but most are the ones you probably aren't selling either right ? And like you many others are looking to buy but not many are selling.

Maintaining so many versions also means having to submit the same number of builds each time an update is ready. Meaning much more work and less frequent updates. Seems to me it's not worth the effort for something that is perfectly possible already.

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Remember also that the DD is shown to you by level, so that lower level farmers get editions with other lower level farms, and these farmers are selling lots of butter, cheeses, sugars and even EMs, because that's all they can make or hold. :)

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Yes that is very true and a good point! Since players can't buy items they haven't unlocked yet they won't see the ads for something they cannot buy yet. So where I might see an ad for olive oil a lower level might see an ad for BEM.

They can see the items in the shop greyed out with a unlocks at level x across it if something else it advertised but a level 30 something won't see an ad for jelly beans for example. At very low levels there aren't that many products you can have so or store.

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@Willow,
Part of these delightful memories such as people helping out of kindness especially when there were no gift cards yet I also share however I also remember the darker side. Discussions about shop raiders and even RSS stalkers go back since very early on. Oh how much we wanted to be able to remove followers back then. Some may not remember but we haven't always been able to delete followers. Discussions like people stealing trades or people not doing their end of a trade etc are not exactly new either. So it wasn't all sunshine around the farm in the "good old days"

In a large community such as Hay Day there are all sorts of people from all walks of life. People with different ideas and opinions, people with different approaches to the game, people who find certain elements extremely fun or not so much. These things will show in NHs where there is conflicting playing styles especially where the derby is concerned so its important for a group of "like minded" players to find each other.

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Ahhhh, yes, shop raiders, RSS stalkers and trade stealers have been around for quite some time to be sure, and are still around; though it is definitely advantageous to now have the ability to delete problematic followers, there are still FB riders, NH jumpers, and last helpers with whom to contend should they decide to play that way.

I am sure when I bask in the sunshine of my early Hay Day memories (the first snowflakes were a trip), a portion, maybe the largest portion, of my love for the game at the time was because I was new, my farm was small and needy, and i focused on the wonder of it rather than on any darker side i encountered. Or maybe I was so new or so enamored i could not even see the darker side. I just remember it was sweet. At any rate, it is fun to reminisce with others who share the memories of Hay Day past. Kind of wish I would have kept a HD journal. :)

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Why would SC need to do that and go through all that extra work when you already can do exactly that in the current game. You can play solo or be in a 1 person NH. Every version would still have the possibility to add friends through GC and or FB and people would still be selling items unadvertised so they can have first pick. This option wouldn't make the DD any better.

The items you want to but most are the ones you probably aren't selling either right ? And like you many others are looking to buy but not many are selling.

Maintaining so many versions also means having to submit the same number of builds each time an update is ready. Meaning much more work and less frequent updates. Seems to me it's not worth the effort for something that is perfectly possible already.




Yes that is very true and a good point! Since players can't buy items they haven't unlocked yet they won't see the ads for something they cannot buy yet. So where I might see an ad for olive oil a lower level might see an ad for BEM.

They can see the items in the shop greyed out with a unlocks at level x across it if something else it advertised but a level 30 something won't see an ad for jelly beans for example. At very low levels there aren't that many products you can have so or store.

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If you would take the time to read the responses, you might understand that the nature of the game has changed completely with the introduction of the Derby and neighborhoods. You can jump up and down and make the corporate overlords happy by insisting that black is white, but you're wrong and a solo player does not have the quality of experience than used to be possible.

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If you would take the time to read the responses, you might understand that the nature of the game has changed completely with the introduction of the Derby and neighborhoods. You can jump up and down and make the corporate overlords happy by insisting that black is white, but you're wrong and a solo player does not have the quality of experience than used to be possible.

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I missed it so I'll ask, what's the "nature of the game" now versus then?

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If you would take the time to read the responses, you might understand that the nature of the game has changed completely with the introduction of the Derby and neighborhoods. You can jump up and down and make the corporate overlords happy by insisting that black is white, but you're wrong and a solo player does not have the quality of experience than used to be possible.

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Sure the nature of the game has changed because of the neighborhoods and the derby is a feature for neighborhoods. Just like the town is. It's pretty easy to ignore the town but you can still play it without a NH. But what you want is a version without the NH. You can get that by quitting your NH, ignore the town and ignore your derby house. You can play farmer all you want without a NH and you get your hay day solo. The only problem is nosiness. Some how it's really hard not to check what you are missing by not doing the derby. But if you want to play solo you certainly can. I do it all the time. After I finish my derby tasks, usually within the two days, I spend my time working my farm. I can go all day without even seeing anyone in chat because I am active when they are not. If I want to talk to someone I make sure I come on when they are active. Nothing else is different. I still shop from my friends list and I can get expansion materials by playing and shopping.

So yes the derby has added an element that is different from just a farm game. If you don't like that part, don't do it.

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If you would take the time to read the responses, you might understand that the nature of the game has changed completely with the introduction of the Derby and neighborhoods.

You can jump up and down and make the corporate overlords happy by insisting that black is white, but you're wrong and a solo player does not have the quality of experience than used to be possible.

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IMO, Supercell designed its games to attract us to play them daily but the eventual goal is to motivate us to join groups where we share common values and provide mutual support.

Last year, it was the neighborhood and now it's the derby which identified competitive players who wants to win at all costs.

Here's an except of the Wall Street Journal article in which the Supercell CEO was interviewed in 2013.

Mr. Paananen has been fond of saying the company has been "incredibly lucky." He also noted that "Clash of Clans" and "Hay Day" are social games, meaning players invite other players, creating a snowball effect. Users who compete with friends online tend to spend far more on in-game purchases than solo players.

https://www.facebook.com/PCGamesDownload.org/posts/568502973255857

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If you would take the time to read the responses, you might understand that the nature of the game has changed completely with the introduction of the Derby and neighborhoods. You can jump up and down and make the corporate overlords happy by insisting that black is white, but you're wrong and a solo player does not have the quality of experience than used to be possible.

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First of all I started off in this thread saying I am just a normal player like anyone. I am only a volunteer and not employed by SC I play the exact same game everyone here is playing.

Has the game changed over time and with many updates ? Yes it has. As for the game taking a U-turn not really.
Is it still possible to play completely solo ? Yes it is and in fact now even more easily then it was in the good old days.
Would the experience be any different in a solo version ? No it would not.

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First of all I started off in this thread saying I am just a normal player like anyone. I am only a volunteer and not employed by SC I play the exact same game everyone here is playing.

Has the game changed over time and with many updates ? Yes it has. As for the game taking a U-turn not really.
Is it still possible to play completely solo ? Yes it is and in fact now even more easily then it was in the good old days.
Would the experience be any different in a solo version ? No it would not.

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And more to the point. Do we once again need to ask Supercell for something we already can do ourselves.... Definitely not. They leave so many options open for us so that we can play the way we want. Do I wish some things were different? Sure. Over the years I have commiserated with everyone over one change or the other. My Aspie brain doesn't like change. But even Aspies adapt eventually. We just do it kicking and screaming. And the things I used to question have grown on me and I realize, I can usually adapt the game to fit me. If I can do that surely you neurtyls can.

Excellent thread! I have really enjoyed reading it. I have been playing HD for 2.5 yrs, so my memories go back a ways. I don't really wish the game to go back. What I DO miss, very much, are the people. So many have left the forum that I so enjoyed hearing from. That is where I wish for "The Good Ole Days".

Remember the good ole days when we thought 16 spam threads was a lot! Ay me, how we can laugh at ourselves now....

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I'm sorry to hear that you miss the good ole days of a couple of months ago. I've been here a couple of years. Life on the farm was very different then. In fact, it got rather boring at times.

It took 29 minutes for the newspaper to refresh. So, if you put an item in your shop to sell it better be a good one or it could sit for a long time.

There weren't any neighborhoods. You had to rely solely on your friends and followers to water or fill a boat crate.

Oh, you needed just one jam to fill that last boat crate and you used all your flags. And the jam you needed was at the end of the production line. Two choices, pay Tom to get it or cast the boat off.

There was no fishing spot.

There was no town.

There were no neighborhoods or neighbors to chat with.

There was only our peaceful little farms.

So, as many can see, change is not always a bad thing.

Want a taste of the real good ole days? Leave your NH and don't join another. Don't go to the fishing spot or town and rely solely on yourself, friends, followers and Tom.

I find, for myself, don't look behind, but keep focusing on the positive things and not the negative.

We can play this game any way we choose.

Take a break from the game for a few months. I did once and it helped me to regain my balance and to enjoy the game again.

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The good ole days of the DD trick...man, those were good times! :smirk::o


Miss u, buddy :(

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Hit the right spot for me

Honestly im getting so many comments about "WHY WOULD U MISS THE GOOD OLE DAYS?!!!? THEYRE AWEFUL CUZ THIS THIS AND THIS." Also, yall are poking me in the head for missing the days i wasnt around! Haha if you would read my post before actually responding to the thread, you would know that i have only been here since the nhs were introduced. I asked if anyone missed the good ole days, bascially before this whole derby fiasco, not before the game was at all social...i miss my nh and the friendships in it being the center focus of my haydaying career �� not the derby...

However...i am continually fascinated to here of the beginnings of this game, and to imagine hay day with no fishing, and the dd refreshing every 29 minutes!

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The good ole days of the DD trick...man, those were good times! :smirk::o


Miss u, buddy :(

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Haystacker, i could never agree more!

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Honestly im getting so many comments about "WHY WOULD U MISS THE GOOD OLE DAYS?!!!? THEYRE AWEFUL CUZ THIS THIS AND THIS." Also, yall are poking me in the head for missing the days i wasnt around!

Haha if you would read my post before actually responding to the thread, you would know that i have only been here since the nhs were introduced. I asked if anyone missed the good ole days, bascially before this whole derby fiasco, not before the game was at all social...i miss my nh and the friendships in it being the center focus of my haydaying career �� not the derby...

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LOL. I wasn't trying to poke you in the head. Instead, I was aiming for your ribs. Just kidding. :)

Let me try to correct the thread drift. As hood leader, I use the Derby as a tool to see which hoodmates are still playing. That's important to me because I left the last hood when it became a ghost town. It seemed the majority of my hoodmates were playing silently or stopped playing.

Prior to the derby, half of my hood were active, asking for help daily and giving help often. After the Derby was introduced, I looked at the Derby Task Board and noticed about half of my hoodmates who were doing tasks belonged in the inactive group. Not surprisingly, they preferred to do the tasks without asking the hood for help.

Now at least I know they are still playing. If not for the Derby, I would've thought they had stopped playing.

Thank you Supercell for creating a tool for leaders to see which hoodmates are still playing.

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LOL. I wasn't trying to poke you in the head. Instead, I was aiming for your ribs. Just kidding. :)

Let me try to correct the thread drift. As hood leader, I use the Derby as a tool to see which hoodmates are still playing. That's important to me because I left the last hood when it became a ghost town. It seemed the majority of my hoodmates were playing silently or stopped playing.

Prior to the derby, half of my hood were active, asking for help daily and giving help often. After the Derby was introduced, I looked at the Derby Task Board and noticed about half of my hoodmates who were doing tasks belonged in the inactive group. Not surprisingly, they preferred to do the tasks without asking the hood for help.

Now at least I know they are still playing. If not for the Derby, I would've thought they had stopped playing.

Thank you Supercell for creating a tool for leaders to see which hoodmates are still playing.

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Yeah, thanks i was looking to get it back on topic xD

On a previous page of this thread, someone talked about a hay day solo with minimal online activities, excluding like newspapers and rss, maybe neighborhoods, no derbies. If that happened and you can convert your account like clash of clans with like a id in every player that is unique. Like your accounts would be linked completely up, even buying gems and using them. The only thing that would be different is the online features.

With all the good things, there is bound to be some bad. Kind of like my son...he loves the fact that he is getting older and taller but the growing pains really get him.

I cant ant say I miss the way HD used to be. If it didn't change I don't think I would still be playing but I can totally understand all the reminiscing.

That hay day solo is still available....

I don't. There was a period when I was derby oriented but then I realized it's not enjoyable, not sustainable and it causes me burnout. So I closed off the derby box.

I still do five tasks each week because I can. I don't care about whether my neighbors do their tasks or not, neither I track their progress throughout the week.

So, I play just like the way you mentioned. Chat, sell, trade, plant, harvest, fun. It's all up to you and I am sure more and more people will realize you can't keep up with the derby if you have a RL schedule.

Also, change is inevitable. Some of our neighbors would get bored and stop playing even before the derby. They might now take a different direction as well if they are more or less competitive than us. And it is okay for me, as long as we part ways gracefully and cherish the days we helped and supported each other.

I have noticed that many neighborhood members have quit after derbies were introduced. Supercell thought it would be a good idea. If it were on clash of clans where most players are under 18, it would be more efficient due to them not having jobs. Hay days audience is mainly 25 plus so almost everyone has a job which limits the amount of time dedicated to hay day. Plus to actually get any reward from derby tasks they must be really good at it.

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I don't. There was a period when I was derby oriented but then I realized it's not enjoyable, not sustainable and it causes me burnout. So I closed off the derby box.

I still do five tasks each week because I can. I don't care about whether my neighbors do their tasks or not, neither I track their progress throughout the week.

So, I play just like the way you mentioned. Chat, sell, trade, plant, harvest, fun. It's all up to you and I am sure more and more people will realize you can't keep up with the derby if you have a RL schedule.

Also, change is inevitable. Some of our neighbors would get bored and stop playing even before the derby. They might now take a different direction as well if they are more or less competitive than us. And it is okay for me, as long as we part ways gracefully and cherish the days we helped and supported each other.

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You know what I like about it Madeleine? It's like a mini challenge or mission that some other games have. Harvest so many things in this amount of time, collect from this many cows, etc. it makes me make something I might not ordinarily do. I hate to fish, but I'll do a fishing task. I wish there was a feather or lobster task. It would force me to remember to go to that part of the farm to make those items.

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If it were on clash of clans where most players are under 18, it would be more efficient due to them not having jobs. Hay days audience is mainly 25 plus so almost everyone has a job which limits the amount of time dedicated to hay day.

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I wonder about that. A lot of the active people I've seen on the forums and in my NHs over the past year are 50+ and many retired. Those who aren't are usually on some kind of disability. I've met very few young people who are active in HD and those I have met have been VERY young, usually someone else's kids or grandkids that they got into the game.

If there is an 18-34 demographic for HD I certainly have not encountered them anywhere. =(

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You know what I like about it Madeleine? It's like a mini challenge or mission that some other games have. Harvest so many things in this amount of time, collect from this many cows, etc. it makes me make something I might not ordinarily do. I hate to fish, but I'll do a fishing task. I wish there was a feather or lobster task. It would force me to remember to go to that part of the farm to make those items.

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Thats why I like doing the tasks too.
Sure I might ordinarily grow some indigo. But when it's 200, or whatever it is then it's like Indigo Season for awhile and I'm looking to make the best of it.

Im not prepared to do a bunch of boats but I like setting up for the harvest and production tasks.
I normally forget to fish too although I'm visiting the fishing area right now as I'm trying to collect as many feathers as I can.
And it's fun to watch my progress on the orange counter tab.

Eager to get some good tasks tomorrow again.

I can't say I miss the old. I really enjoy the game. Been playing for over two years now and have seen SC introduce many updates. Some were immediately welcomed and some needed tweaking. Some were downright frustrating, but all have been sorted out over time. I do get impatient when I can't quickly find what I want in the paper ads or tucked away in everyone's shops. It has made me play to be more self-sufficient. I still enjoy helping where I can - I really like the derby help task. Our neighborhood is actually more active since the derby. We help each other, do a lot of trades, and regularly have neighborhood sales prior to posting ads. We are a worldwide neighborhood and enjoy communicating with each other. The derby has brought a good bit of humor into that communication. We all play for fun.

Hey there,
Thanks for this thread ,
I am from Mumbai , and had a very townie life throughout my childhood .
But the summers were in the village where I was whole day in the gardens and trees , and rivers and enjoying my 2 months vacation . I misss being in village.