As smart as you are you have broken the dynamics, lightning should damage everything

Looks like you're going to have to learn how to raid. :smirk:

I don't quite understand this scenario. How can you get all the way to 98% and have a storage left but no troops? What exactly killed your troops? A giant bomb? well, then that makes this scenario REALLY unlikely.

plus if you're going to bring a lightning spell to war, wouldn't you use it on cc troops? or to take out an air defense?

I just don't understand how you would get to 98% and not use your lightning spell(s).

Lightning spells not damaging storages has been requested from the whole community for a long long time, as you could not defend against lightning spells in any way, and that is not fair. From my point of view that's like you are envious about an other player and how succesful he is so you keep building that greed and envy over and over again leading to an infinite uproar in the community. And it has been reported about major losses in dark elixir when literally the whole silver league creates a stormcloud over your base without even giving a free shield and you can just sit there and watch.

And those "cry babies" as you stated make up a very very small percentage over all the CoC players and they are mostly top players and they don't care but don't think this is affecting only them, think about the casual players that don't have a chance to raid much or at all and they might not make it back what they loose from zapping. Dark elixir has always been and is meant to be a rare and hard to obtain resource what you work for.I am pretty sure there are other cheaper, faster and more viable ways how to make good dark elixir with a strategy that requires skill and logical thinking. There has been many improvements for th7's and 8's to make dark elixir like the drills and th7's shouldn't get bk that easily, just like all other town halls with their exculsive upgrades.
I am telling it is supposed to be fair and square for everyone. I just think that zapping is uncreative,lazy and doesn't get you anywhere, be innovative how you farm your dark elixir:cool:

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Originally Posted by omenpharaoh

After wasting two lightning bolts on a revenge I've noticed that you can no longer lightning storages. With all your ingenuity and savvy you have elected to ignore the catastrophic implications on this change. It now takes longer for units to go through those storage buildings, effectively eliminating any strategic use of the lightning to speed up attacks in favor of someone whining about their de stores getting zapped. Watch how many war battles are lost because of it before you switch it back. I don't like it anymore than the other guy when I get zapped but it's a dynamic of the game. You have broken the game and you don't even know it yet.
I hope this is addressed and rapidly before you start losing players...surely your $5million a day is important when it drops to $2million.
Appalled,
omen

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Whine whine. 👎🏼

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Originally Posted by jana225

Think of this, if a player is at 98% all troops are deployed and have died and you have only 2 lightning spells and a storage left, lets even say this is war. You know how mad your gonna be when you lose!!! Maybe they could just make it so lightning spells dont take any loot but they need to damage the storage still!!

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It does damage the resource buildings...

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Originally Posted by Ironzz

Lightning spells not damaging storages has been requested from the whole community for a long long time, as you could not defend against lightning spells in any way, and that is not fair. From my point of view that's like you are envious about an other player and how succesful he is so you keep building that greed and envy over and over again leading to an infinite uproar in the community. And it has been reported about major losses in dark elixir when literally the whole silver league creates a stormcloud over your base without even giving a free shield and you can just sit there and watch.

And those "cry babies" as you stated make up a very very small percentage over all the CoC players and they are mostly top players and they don't care but don't think this is affecting only them, think about the casual players that don't have a chance to raid much or at all and they might not make it back what they loose from zapping. Dark elixir has always been and is meant to be a rare and hard to obtain resource what you work for.I am pretty sure there are other cheaper, faster and more viable ways how to make good dark elixir with a strategy that requires skill and logical thinking. There has been many improvements for th7's and 8's to make dark elixir like the drills and th7's shouldn't get bk that easily, just like all other town halls with their exculsive upgrades.
I am telling it is supposed to be fair and square for everyone. I just think that zapping is uncreative,lazy and doesn't get you anywhere, be innovative how you farm your dark elixir:cool:

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Well said. Pretty much exacly what SC said way back when this was becoming an issue.

ok so fair is fair eh? then now i want my cc troops to not come out to just die because i need them for war. now i want my collectors not affected by lightning...now i want my th to only be hit by troops and not the lightning...lightning spells not damaging stores is THE most ♥♥♥♥♥♥ed decision ive seen a game company make since i started gaming on an i386 in 1980's.

Farming dark elixir without lightning is easy, if you need to zap well you just aren't very good at the game.
the economics of it is stupid anyway, more often then not that elixir is better spent elsewhere.

if you're any good that elixir could be spent on good army composition and you can probably get all of it instead of 1/3rd.
some of the hypothetical scenarios raised will never happen anyway.

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Originally Posted by NoOneOfConsequence

Being able to drop lightning on storages was about the only way that someone like me, who has worked hard for every upgrade I have, can get back at those who buy their bases, hereafter referred to as "crybabies".

I really don't expect Supercell to do anything to change this, because the crybabies form the basis of Supercell's revenue stream, not those of us who work our way through the game. I have spent a few gift cards on both CoC AND Boom Beach, because I am a software developer myself (not games) and I believe that the developers of good games should be paid. I have dropped $60 on a good PC game before (Starcraft II, a few years back) and that seems to be a reasonable amount to spend on a good game. Obviously, the crybabies spend way more than that on their bases (good grief - those fancy walls alone cost umpteen kajillion ...) and so Supercell will always listen to their loud, whiny, pathetic voices - not because they are in the majority, but because they keep the lights on.

So the loud, whiny, selfish minority get their way ... hmmmm, that seems familiar somehow ...

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Ummm as you were writing this, were you listening to yourself.
Ultimately this is an issue which splits the Coc community and it always will. The non-zappers complain when they can be zapped or the zappers complain when they can no longer zap.
Let me complain (and yes, be a cry baby myself) about the whole issue being discussed. Let's all just agree that not everyone can be happy and some babies may just need to have a cry. That's okay. Crying balances out your hormones and is good for the soul.

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Originally Posted by mwark

Farming dark elixir without lightning is easy, if you need to zap well you just aren't very good at the game.
the economics of it is stupid anyway, more often then not that elixir is better spent elsewhere.

if you're any good that elixir could be spent on good army composition and you can probably get all of it instead of 1/3rd.
some of the hypothetical scenarios raised will never happen anyway.

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For a TH7, it's not easy to farm DE.
Sure, I can raid other TH7's, but it hardly delivers. Am I supposed to spend 150K+ of (regular) elixir on an army to gain a few hundred DE? Yes...
As a nearly maxed out TH7, I could never get to the center (where the DE storage is) of a TH9 or TH10 base, no matter how good my army composition would be...
So, I'm not happy zapping was removed from the game. But I won't ask for it to come back. I'll manage to work my way up in the game, it will just take me a whole lot longer...

God will you noobs just end it already? It's not coming back, learning how to raid is now something you're gonna have to do. Looks like you're the crybabies now.

Hard to raid for DE at TH7? Pff I did fine back when there were NO DRILLS available at all, and now look at you children complaining.

You're mad you can't "get back at" higher TH players than you? Lol no duh, it's because you aren't up there yet in that ability. You can't do anything to them, the same way none of us could either back when we were lower players. That's just something you're going to have to deal with. If a bigger kid in elementary school pushed you down, you couldn't do anything about it; that's just how life is.

Stop being mad about the fact that SC removed a terrible exploit that left a huge chunk of players aimless when it came to actual attacks. You should be grateful that you're now forced to learn how to raid since apparently you won't do it on your own.

Best update ever, your crying is music to my ears.

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

First, I doubt your discontent with Supercell will cause them to lose $3 million every day.

Secondly, welcome to the new world of Clash of Clans. No more zapping threads but threads from disgruntled users who want zapping back.

We. Cannot. Win.

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This^^

Zapping is gone. You have the choice to either cry about it or adapt to the game changes.

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Originally Posted by omenpharaoh

After wasting two lightning bolts on a revenge I've noticed that you can no longer lightning storages. With all your ingenuity and savvy you have elected to ignore the catastrophic implications on this change. It now takes longer for units to go through those storage buildings, effectively eliminating any strategic use of the lightning to speed up attacks in favor of someone whining about their de stores getting zapped. Watch how many war battles are lost because of it before you switch it back. I don't like it anymore than the other guy when I get zapped but it's a dynamic of the game. You have broken the game and you don't even know it yet.
I hope this is addressed and rapidly before you start losing players...surely your $5million a day is important when it drops to $2million.
Appalled,
omen

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Agree with the feelings of this user, however, I'm doubtful about the amount. LoL I do not doubt users will be disgruntled and quit; still, more will begin and not know the difference. I also agree with this user that you've changed the rules on your current users and have to say I feel somewhat betrayed. Kudos to all of SC's accomplishments and creating a fantastic game, but, thumbs down to breaking your own laws of physics... do not think this one was needed. Lots of peeps know how to deal with the poachers as well as poach themselves. It was a great way to bring younger level players into the DE experience with a little less effort; trading elixir for dark elixir. I say undo this one. It's ok to say you're wrong from time to time or that you've changed your mind. I think this may be one of those moments. Bring back the DE Snipe Attack yo! :caticon: