Remove the no healing effects for infernoes

How on earth is a th.9 going to even 1 star a th.10 if they have no freeze spells? Infernoes makes a lv.90 th 10 able to fend off attacks from maxed th.9s. Seriously in my last clan war. This lv.90 th.10 coulden't even 3 star a th.8 with gowipe. A th.8. Not a th.9. But our near maxed th.9 coulden't even get 1 star due to those blasted infernoes. This is also why no one uses the heal spell at th.10. He predicted where his troops are going to move and everything went to plan. Only part of his plan went wrong when it reached the stage of fighting the infernoes. They are just too overpowered for any one who isn't a th10 to fight.

The way I see it is. Unless they allow the freeze spell to be unlocked at th.9, th.10s are out of bounds to th.9s. It puts so much pressure on my clan's only th.10 to attack other th.10s simply we can't do anything about them! What good will gowipe do as a th.9 if the inferno can roast 2 if your wizards in 1 go every 5s? What good will lavaloonian do if the inferno can roast 4 balloons in 1 go? Hogs? Are u kidding? Th.9s is now arugeably the level where you get the least improvements in defence.

Th.8 to th.9 difference: +1 archer tower/air defence/wizard tower,+2 xbows, +2 seeking air mines

Th.9 to th.10 difference: +2 infernoes, +? Air bombs/mines

From the above it seems like I'm a lunatic for saying that th.9s get the least improvement in defence right. But at th.9, you don't get any defences that is able to shut down one of the opponent's ability. Which is why th.8s are still able to 2 star th.9s reliably because x-bows are just efficient archer towers or really long ranged cannons. But th.10s they are able to completly deny healing to the attacker troops and the th.9 player has no way to counter that. Also, it is not the inferno that is attacking this one troop. There are usually several. For a th.9 this means once a inferno locks onto one of their units, it is bye bye. Infernoes dps on multi may seem weak, but bear in mind it is a.) Hitting 5 units in 1 go and b.) Denying any healing. Other th.10s can freeze the thing but th.9s can't. Right now, the only way I see that a th.9 is able to attack a th.10 is if they borrow the gunboat from boom beach to lock that thing down. And that ain't going to happen. So that leads me to the other point. Remove the healing block on infernoes. Do that and the inferno becomes something like what an x-bow is to a th.8.

Anticipitated whine: That means now the inferno now only has 42 dps. It is utter trash now.

Hey pal. There is something called single mode. Also That thing is hitting 5 things at 1 go. Furthermore, a healing spell last slightly longer that a freeze spell. If a th.9 tries to use that on a single target. It is still going to get wasted.

Anticipated whine: That makes the inferno tower nothing more than a glorified archer tower to a th.9

Guess what! That is what an x-bow is to a th.8

Anticipitated whine: All the other th.10s are going to find attacks more easier now.

The way i see th.10 attack so far it has no healing of any sorts involved apart from hero abilities. Its a combo of precise blitzing and precision useage of spells...

Anticipitated whine: No one will use the freeze spell anymore :(

Troops can still die under a heal spell. Freeze spells stops damage from coming. Heal spells try to outheal the damage. If you can focus fire or hide giant bombs well, no problem. Also heal spells can't outheal a cc with min 5 wizards. But a freeze spell can shut them down... Go figure

Thanks for reading. Please help narrow the gap between a th.9 and th.10. They haven't been getting any new content that is unique to them

Max TH9's can beat rushed TH10's even if they have two inferno towers. Sounds like your TH9 needs to get better at attacking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRFsxHsM2bc

Tell them to get TH10 if theyre desperate for freeze spells :smirk:

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Originally Posted by itmustbeaustin

Max TH9's can beat rushed TH10's even if they have two inferno towers. Sounds like your TH9 needs to get better at attacking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRFsxHsM2bc

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That th.9 i mentioned has reliably 2 starred other th.9 at over 70% damage. He told us his attack plan and everything went as planned untill the part of the inferno towers. He planned his attack and predicted where the opponents traps are accurately and yet he still failed because of the infernoes.The video you had linked shows a really rushed th.10. Meanwhile the th.10 we faced just ripped off a base from the forums or something and had better walls...

Bottom line is unless you are really skilled or the opponent base is really bad. A th.9 can't do 2 stars on a th.10 that has infernoes. They may get 1 star but they could also end up with 0. From my experience, when a th.9 attacks a th.10 with infernoes. If both infernoes get an accumulated burn time of
30s or more. They have done enough irreversable damage to doom an potential 2 star attack

Um... Use a better army?
And yes, you should be making a better army to attack th10s, or you could try and 1 star them via 50% by avoiding the infernos completely.

I would suggest that a healer is to weak to heal through an inferno but that a heal spells healing could be useful in the way that it only be 50% effective (50% as an easy example)

I think a lv 4 heal heals 1000 hp
Heck it could be as little as 10% just so as long as slows the killing process down a bit. But healers still be ruled out I think.
To completely overturn a spell 100% is kinda over kill . But to allow heal to have no counter is kinda the same thing... I suggest 10%. Inferno tower still going to fry your hide. But at least we wolnt feel like dummies when we drop the heal spell on them. :/*

Max th10's at 4k trophies dont use freeze spells on other max th10's, yet they can still 2 star them. There is nothing wrong. If you have LVL 20 heroes, which is what a near maxed th9 should have, it should be enough to get 2 stars on rushed th10 with infernos.

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Originally Posted by Seuss145

Max th10's at 4k trophies dont use freeze spells on other max th10's, yet they can still 2 star them. There is nothing wrong. If you have LVL 20 heroes, which is what a near maxed th9 should have, it should be enough to get 2 stars on rushed th10 with infernos.

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Eh lv.5 golems/pekkas takes forever to kill using multi. Too bad a th.9 is stuck with lv.3 pekkas and lv 4 golems and the opponent has a single and a multi inferno.

Edit: We lost the clan war by 1 star... Screw infernoes

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Originally Posted by Mayicutin

Eh lv.5 golems/pekkas takes forever to kill using multi. Too bad a th.9 is stuck with lv.3 pekkas and lv 4 golems and the opponent has a single and a multi inferno.

Edit: We lost the clan war by 1 star... Screw infernoes

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Even though th10 has lvl 5 golems and pekkas, the th10 your clan faced was lvl 90, so it was rushed. It should have had nothing higher than max th9 defences, even that is extreme as a max th9 is usually around lvl 105. So that th10 should have had low-mid th9 defences with infernos. That shouldn't be too much of a problem with lvl 4 golems and lvl 3 pekkas

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Originally Posted by Mayicutin

That th.9 i mentioned has reliably 2 starred other th.9 at over 70% damage. He told us his attack plan and everything went as planned untill the part of the inferno towers. He planned his attack and predicted where the opponents traps are accurately and yet he still failed because of the infernoes.The video you had linked shows a really rushed th.10. Meanwhile the th.10 we faced just ripped off a base from the forums or something and had better walls...

Bottom line is unless you are really skilled or the opponent base is really bad. A th.9 can't do 2 stars on a th.10 that has infernoes. They may get 1 star but they could also end up with 0. From my experience, when a th.9 attacks a th.10 with infernoes. If both infernoes get an accumulated burn time of
30s or more. They have done enough irreversable damage to doom an potential 2 star attack

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The TH10 in the video, is level 86. I highly doubt a level 90 is THAT much further ahead. Any decent to good TH9 can 2 or 3 star a rushed TH10 with infernos. I was just trying to make the point, just because he has infernos doesn't make him out of reach for a TH9, your TH9 just needs to get better at attacking.