Serious proposal to change lightning/DE storage behavior

The fact that we have so many lightning DE zapping threads means that it truly is a frustrating part of the game for a lot of people, therefore Supercell should try to find a way to "fix" it. It's a game after all, and games are supposed to be fun. So here is my idea, I havn't seen it before in the forum yet (but then, I havn't read all 5,432,333 threads on it).

The idea is to change the ways that damage on a storage building vs. the resource claimed by attackers is calculated.

Currently, as long as there is any resource in the storage, every little bit of damage on a building will return some resource to the attacker. For example, if the building holds 100,000 gold available to be looted, and building as 1000 hp, then doing 10 damage on the building (10/1000 = 1%) will return (100,000 * 1%) 1000 gold to the attacker.

I propose that we change the formula to also factor-in how full the storage is. You can visualize my idea as "DE is stored at the bottom of the storage, and each attack takes a little off of the top of the storage. No DE flows out of the storage until the attack reduces the storage enough to allow the DE to start flowing out."

For example, we have a gold storage that has max capacity of 2,000,000, and currently holds 1,000,000, and has 1000 hit points. With my idea, as the attackers attack, and each hit does 10 damage, the first 50 attacks will take the building health down to 500, but these attacks will not return any resources to the attacker. Then, once the building is down to the same percentage life remaining as it has in percent resource filled, then the building starts giving resource to the attacker for each damage being dealt.

This idea has the advantage of not affecting normal attacks as much, because normal attacks tend to completely destroy a building, so the attacker ends up getting the same amount of resource as before. But this change would drastically affect the amount of resources that lightning can zap from a storage. As long as your storage in not close to full, then you lose a lot less. Also, this change would make upgrading the storage to get more capacity and more hit points very relevant.

Proposed formula:

{resource returned} =
if ( {building HP remaining percentage} > {building filled percentage} )
then
0
else
{total available loot from this building} * {damage done} / ( {building total HP} * {building filled percentage} )

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Originally Posted by Frankcy11

The fact that we have so many lightning DE zapping threads means that it truly is a frustrating part of the game for a lot of people, therefore Supercell should try to find a way to "fix" it. It's a game after all, and games are supposed to be fun. So here is my idea, I havn't seen it before in the forum yet (but then, I havn't read all 5,432,333 threads on it).

The idea is to change the ways that damage on a storage building vs. the resource claimed by attackers is calculated.

Currently, as long as there is any resource in the storage, every little bit of damage on a building will return some resource to the attacker. For example, if the building holds 100,000 gold available to be looted, and building as 1000 hp, then doing 10 damage on the building (10/1000 = 1%) will return (100,000 * 1%) 1000 gold to the attacker.

I propose that we change the formula to also factor-in how full the storage is. You can visualize my idea as "DE is stored at the bottom of the storage, and each attack takes a little off of the top of the storage. No DE flows out of the storage until the attack reduces the storage enough to allow the DE to start flowing out."

For example, we have a gold storage that has max capacity of 2,000,000, and currently holds 1,000,000, and has 1000 hit points. With my idea, as the attackers attack, and each hit does 10 damage, the first 50 attacks will take the building health down to 500, but these attacks will not return any resources to the attacker. Then, once the building is down to the same percentage life remaining as it has in percent resource filled, then the building starts giving resource to the attacker for each damage being dealt.

This idea has the advantage of not affecting normal attacks as much, because normal attacks tend to completely destroy a building, so the attacker ends up getting the same amount of resource as before. But this change would drastically affect the amount of resources that lightning can zap from a storage. As long as your storage in not close to full, then you lose a lot less. Also, this change would make upgrading the storage to get more capacity and more hit points very relevant.

Proposed formula:

{resource returned} =
if ( {building HP remaining percentage} > {building filled percentage} )
then
0
else
{total available loot from this building} * {damage done} / ( {building total HP} * {building filled percentage} )

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95% of people who post zapping threads are Fresh Spawn...

I honestly think all the zap thread posters are just alts of one guy.

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Originally Posted by SimonTheEpic

95% of people who post zapping threads are Fresh Spawn...

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And that has to do with the merit of the idea?

Please note that this was not a complaint post about zapping. I am presenting a solution. Judge the post on the idea inside.

what do you think about changing the way that you get resources when you attack a building, so that you only get resources at the end when the building is almost destroyed? Would it make a difference for you in your play? Would you be okay with this change if it meant disabling most of the zapping?

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Originally Posted by Frankcy11

The fact that we have so many lightning DE zapping threads means that it truly is a frustrating part of the game for a lot of people, therefore Supercell should try to find a way to "fix" it. It's a game after all, and games are supposed to be fun. So here is my idea, I havn't seen it before in the forum yet (but then, I havn't read all 5,432,333 threads on it).

The idea is to change the ways that damage on a storage building vs. the resource claimed by attackers is calculated.

Currently, as long as there is any resource in the storage, every little bit of damage on a building will return some resource to the attacker. For example, if the building holds 100,000 gold available to be looted, and building as 1000 hp, then doing 10 damage on the building (10/1000 = 1%) will return (100,000 * 1%) 1000 gold to the attacker.

I propose that we change the formula to also factor-in how full the storage is. You can visualize my idea as "DE is stored at the bottom of the storage, and each attack takes a little off of the top of the storage. No DE flows out of the storage until the attack reduces the storage enough to allow the DE to start flowing out."

For example, we have a gold storage that has max capacity of 2,000,000, and currently holds 1,000,000, and has 1000 hit points. With my idea, as the attackers attack, and each hit does 10 damage, the first 50 attacks will take the building health down to 500, but these attacks will not return any resources to the attacker. Then, once the building is down to the same percentage life remaining as it has in percent resource filled, then the building starts giving resource to the attacker for each damage being dealt.

This idea has the advantage of not affecting normal attacks as much, because normal attacks tend to completely destroy a building, so the attacker ends up getting the same amount of resource as before. But this change would drastically affect the amount of resources that lightning can zap from a storage. As long as your storage in not close to full, then you lose a lot less. Also, this change would make upgrading the storage to get more capacity and more hit points very relevant.

Proposed formula:

{resource returned} =
if ( {building HP remaining percentage} > {building filled percentage} )
then
0
else
{total available loot from this building} * {damage done} / ( {building total HP} * {building filled percentage} )

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No, dark elixir does not "flow" out. If you look at it, there is a hole on the top of the storage allowing plenty of space for a lightning strike to come and damage it. Also, it may not be the exact same words, but any idea/structure that reduces the amount of DE gained is ruled out. And your formula, the amount of filled percentage goes down with the HP percentage, so you could get practically NO dark elixir with a zap.

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Originally Posted by SimonTheEpic

95% of people who post zapping threads are Fresh Spawn...

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No, 98% percent.

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Originally Posted by TheSixthBuilder

I honestly think all the zap thread posters are just alts of one guy.

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That's not possible. There are 5,000,000+ threads on zapping.

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Originally Posted by Frankcy11

And that has to do with the merit of the idea?

Please note that this was not a complaint post about zapping. I am presenting a solution. Judge the post on the idea inside.

what do you think about changing the way that you get resources when you attack a building, so that you only get resources at the end when the building is almost destroyed? Would it make a difference for you in your play? Would you be okay with this change if it meant disabling most of the zapping?

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Proposing a solution generally means that you have a complaint....

Yes, this would drastically affect my play. I'm a zapper. Of course I wouldn't be OK with this change.

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Originally Posted by trooperc007

No, dark elixir does not "flow" out. If you look at it, there is a hole on the top of the storage allowing plenty of space for a lightning strike to come and damage it. Also, it may not be the exact same words, but any idea/structure that reduces the amount of DE gained is ruled out. And your formula, the amount of filled percentage goes down with the HP percentage, so you could get practically NO dark elixir with a zap.

No, 98% percent.

That's not possible. There are 5,000,000+ threads on zapping.

Proposing a solution generally means that you have a complaint....

Yes, this would drastically affect my play. I'm a zapper. Of course I wouldn't be OK with this change.

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Zappers for life!

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Originally Posted by SimonTheEpic

Zappers for life!

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Let's be real. We've all done it. Kind of like gay intercourse! No? Just me? Ok....

If it ain't broke don't fix it.


If it's sooooooo broken like it seems, why has SC waited 3 years only to say they don't have any plans and only to rule out the most infamous anti zap feature - the lightning rod?

Every time a noob cries about DE zapping God kills a kitten...

THINK OF THE KITTENS!!!!!1!1!!11!!one111

First some background: Love the game, play often, th.10, leader of lv.4 war clan.

IMAGINE THIS:

You have a farming base. TH so easy to destroy trophy seekers love you. You have mega loot, about 5 million gold and elixir, 100k dark elixer. You log off COC, troops in clan castle, thinking everything is ready and set so you wont get raided too badly...most likely. Then when you log back on,

DON, DON, DON,

You got raided about 10 times. However, not one person left you with a shield. Each of the those people used 3-5 lighting spells on your Dark elixir taking on average 1.5k dark elixir. That is a grand total of 15k dark elixir!

WOW!

So your telling me that all of us th.10 people who have worked so hard to get our defenses up and protect that which is so precious, our dark elixir. Making these fortresses and placing that precious commodity where hopefully no troops would ever come near, yet its pointless. These lighting spells just surpass everything we worked so hard to build. We might as well just place our dark elixir on the outside and let them take it because there is no point in protecting it. A low lv person can just look at your base drop a few lighting spells and walk away with 1.5k dark elixir and leave you with no shield so that the next person can do the same. What's to stop the game from this 10 person streak from dropping lighting spells besides the fate that is given to a COC player.

Conclusions:

Lighting Spells and then no shield is a problem.

Solutions:

1. Add a bonus shield anytime someone only drops lighting spells.
2. Lighting Rod, can be placed on any one building and will absorb some/all of the blast. (my favorite)
3. Add another dark elixir storage so that lighting spells cannot take so much dark elixir at once.
4. Make dark elixir storage more lighting proof, so less percentage of damage from lighting spells.