Early TH 8 attacking guide (For wars)

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June 11th, 2015
KIngcrool

Early TH 8 attacking guide (For wars)

I call this army a King's Rainbow
What to use: 11 Giants (55 spaces)
12 Wizards (48 Spaces)
30 Archers (30 Spaces)
8 Wall breakers (16 Spaces)
2 Valkyries (16 spaces)
1 Healer (14 spaces)
1 Dragon (20 Spaces)
1 Barbarian (1 Space)
Spells 2 rage 1 heal
1) draw out Clan Castle Castle troops and kill them with archers
2) Send giants either to closest Wizard towers or Air defense (use wall breakers when needed)
3) Wizards behind giants with remaining archers
4 Valks on either side of the base to destroy outside buildings and send your wizards to the clan castle
5 After at least 1 air defense is destroyed use healer with a dragon in front to shield her

When to use spells use 1 rage when the giants break through the first wall make sure they enter as close to the bottom of it to give maximum use

Heal Spell use on giants when their health gets to about 50%

Second Rage spell when your wizards get to th or when all giants are dead to make sure you get at least a 2 star

Clan Castle Troops The troops you use can be just about anything but goblins hogs wall breakers and barbarians you should request one troop type of what you are already using and use these troops when you put out yours of that kind Ex if you take wizards in your cc deploy them with your wizards If you have giants put the 2 groups of giants together If you manage to get a PEKKA put it with your giants Minions go behind dragon Witch I don't know never used one but probably behind wizards

My Success
This attack almost always works for me however you have to get rid of clan castle troops as a few wizards can kill your giants before the healer or spell can do anything

My troop levels
Giants Archers Barbarian Wizard Wall breaker level 4 Healer level 2 dragon and Valkyrie level 1

Spell
Rage and heal level 3

Clan Castle usually 1 level higher than I have but now that we are level 5 clan they are 2 levels higher
June 11th, 2015
JackAtk

I just don't wars until my dragons are level 3.

This attack strategy can not three-star a TH8 with max TH7 defenses.
June 11th, 2015
KIngcrool

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackAtk

I just don't wars until my dragons are level 3.

This attack strategy can not three-star a TH8 with max TH7 defenses.

I have done it before it is not impossible depending on the base layout However this does usually guarantee 2 stars unless all the troops decide to ignore it which happened once
June 11th, 2015
Yoyobuae
A few thoughs:
- Healers rock when under rage spell. 2x Healers + Rage spell makes the troops being healed pretty much immune to damage
- Level 6 balloons (you can get them on CC) make a good shield for healer. They go after defenses, so often go after Air defenses. They also rock when raged.
- Valks are core busters, get them inside the base. And they also benefit a lot from rage spell and from healing.
Are you noticing the pattern yet? :smirk:

It's nice you're using valkyries and healers in your attack, most people don't even try using those troops. :)
June 11th, 2015
KIngcrool
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyobuae

A few thoughs:

Healers rock when under rage spell. 2x Healers + Rage spell makes the troops being healed pretty much immune to damage
Level 6 balloons (you can get them on CC) make a good shield for healer. They go after defenses, so often go after Air defenses. They also rock when raged.
Valks are core busters, get them inside the base. And they also benefit a lot from rage spell and from healing.

Are you noticing the pattern yet? :smirk:

It's nice you're using valkyries and healers in your attack, most people don't even try using those troops. :)
I do like using them so far the reason i put them outside so it would make wizards go inside for the th plus their high health allows them to tank a bunch of cannon shots
June 11th, 2015
FisherPrice

Early TH8 war attacks?

Dragons.

Mid/late TH8 war attacks? Hogs. Possibly dragons on some bases. Also maybe GoWiPe once it is leveled up.

Don't screw around with giants and healers in war as TH8, I mean, are you serious?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIngcrool

I have done it before it is not impossible depending on the base layout However this does usually guarantee 2 stars unless all the troops decide to ignore it which happened once

A 2* attack at this level is a complete and total failure.
June 11th, 2015
KIngcrool

Quote:

Originally Posted by FisherPrice

Early TH8 war attacks?

Dragons.

Mid/late TH8 war attacks? Hogs. Possibly dragons on some bases. Also maybe GoWiPe once it is leveled up.

Don't screw around with giants and healers in war as TH8, I mean, are you serious?

A 2* attack at this level is a complete and total failure.

Dragons are not really worth it 250,000 elixir for 10 dragons not counting spells 2 attacks with them and your down half a million elixir 8 attacks and you have used the same amount of Elixir it takes to get a PEKKA i just don't see their usefulness when wars are my secondary source of loot IDK how much war loot you get but i usually take around 480,000 gold and elixir and around 800 de
June 11th, 2015
Yoyobuae

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIngcrool

I do like using them so far the reason i put them outside so it would make wizards go inside for the th plus their high health allows them to tank a bunch of cannon shots

Yeah, I guess that works.

It's just that I always try to play on troop's strengths. Valkyries can destroy the TH sort of like wizards, and tank a bit like giants. Can even kill clan castle troops if need be. So I always picture them going into the core of the base.

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Originally Posted by KIngcrool

Dragons are not really worth it 250,000 elixir for 10 dragons not counting spells 2 attacks with them and your down half a million elixir 8 attacks and you have used the same amount of Elixir it takes to get a PEKKA i just don't see their usefulness when wars are my secondary source of loot IDK how much war loot you get but i usually take around 480,000 gold and elixir and around 800 de

Most people do wars to win them, not to gain resources (war loot is just a nice side bonus). So the cost of dragons is a non-issue on wars for most people, they just want a solid 3 star strategy and dragons provides that.
June 11th, 2015
thinkgreen

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIngcrool

Dragons are not really worth it 250,000 elixir for 10 dragons not counting spells 2 attacks with them and your down half a million elixir 8 attacks and you have used the same amount of Elixir it takes to get a PEKKA i just don't see their usefulness when wars are my secondary source of loot IDK how much war loot you get but i usually take around 480,000 gold and elixir and around 800 de

Are you hitting TH7's? My last war loot was ~700k and ~2300 DE. That's well worth the cost of dragons.
June 11th, 2015
KIngcrool

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkgreen

Are you hitting TH7's? My last war loot was ~700k and ~2300 DE. That's well worth the cost of dragons.

Ya I do hit 7s in War we have 3-4 th 8s and I usually end up hitting their highest 7s or sometimes lowest 8.
June 11th, 2015
Lunaticfringe

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackAtk

I just don't wars until my dragons are level 3.

That seems rather silly. L2 drags can do serious work against a lot of TH8s

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIngcrool

Dragons are not really worth it 250,000 elixir for 10 dragons not counting spells 2 attacks with them and your down half a million elixir 8 attacks and you have used the same amount of Elixir it takes to get a PEKKA i just don't see their usefulness when wars are my secondary source of loot IDK how much war loot you get but i usually take around 480,000 gold and elixir and around 800 de

9 times out of 10, every time I read this comment I think, "I'm sure glad you aren't in my clan..."

The entire clan benefits from a victory in war, not just you. Go ahead and farm with whatever you want, but not putting forth the best army possible makes me roll my eyes.

If you want to stay selfish, opt out of war then.

And if you're losing resources, but your clan is winning the war, you are either attacking really weak bases or overkilling the base (using 10 drags when, say, 7 and loons would otherwise work).
June 11th, 2015
FisherPrice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe

That seems rather silly. L2 drags can do serious work again TH8s

9 times out of 10, every time I read this comment I think, "I'm sure glad you aren't in my clan..."

The entire clan benefits from a victory in war, not just you. Go ahead and farm with whatever you want, but not putting forth the best army possible makes me roll my eyes.

If you want to stay selfish, opt out of war then.

And if you're losing resources, but your clan wins the war, you are attacking really weak bases, but throwing 10/whatever dragons at it when not that many would clear the base with ease. In other words, you are massively overkilling the base. And if you want to go cheaper, but still be effective, add loons to the equation.

Agree.

If you are worried about profiting in war you are doing it wrong and probably don't even belong in war.

War is about winning, winning is about stars, stars are about the absolute best army you can possibly bring to bear on your target.

When I was using mass drags as a TH8 I think I lost elixir every single war. I made gold and DE, but lost elixir. Now as an early TH9 I lose dark elixir every single war. I make elixir and gold though.
June 11th, 2015
KIngcrool

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe

That seems rather silly. L2 drags can do serious work again TH8s

9 times out of 10, every time I read this comment I think, "I'm sure glad you aren't in my clan..."

The entire clan benefits from a victory in war, not just you. Go ahead and farm with whatever you want, but not putting forth the best army possible makes me roll my eyes.

If you want to stay selfish, opt out of war then.

And if you're losing resources, but your clan wins the war, you are attacking really weak bases, but throwing 10/whatever dragons at it when not that many would clear the base with ease. In other words, you are massively overkilling the base. And if you want to go cheaper, but still be effective, add loons to the equation.

I am not attacking people who are ranked 4-5 when I am ranked 4 With the army I said I consistently get 3 stars by using that with the attack on the lower player I go with and use Loonian on the higher player I go for