Donation system upgrade (read before say you saw it before)

I know there`s several ideas on this theme and I`ve been reading them.
I found several issues pointed by the people that commented, what leaded almost all of those threads to become forgotten posts.


Now, the idea:
1. When you click on the Clan castle, instead of the regular options, the option OFFER TROOPS would be there as well. So it will be: Info - Upgrade - Request troops - Offer troops - Clan - Collect


2. Requesting system still intact. And Offering troops will be timed as the request troops (if you request troops, you will have to wait for the time out acording to the clan perk you are in), being able to rush (request now) using gems. Just like requesting, but offering instead. That means, the time out is THE SAME for request troops and offer troops. So the time out is to use the clan castle, let`s put it that way.


3. The limit of housing space to be offered can be the same of the requesting limit, just to match the village level. And amount of troops donated should mach the clan limits, according to clan perks (5 troops until perks 4, 6 until perks 8, etc...). - added by "itmustbeaustin"

4. When you select the troops you want to donate, None of them leave your army camps until picked up by some one. You can let the replacement troops on wait at the barracks, or not use this feature, if this bothers you. Or, you can suggest something. I know this is a delicate point, by the comments I`ve read in other posts.

5. When you finish selecting the troops you want to donate, give it a title, hit "Offer" and it will appear on the clan chat exactly like the donation request, but as an offer.


6. Once someone picked your troops, your donations count increase, your donation refund goes in and your troops leave your army camps to the bottom corner of the village.

7. If you have troops offered that still on your army camp and you decide to raid, those troops will be unavailable for use on the attack. Two things can occur in case of no one pick your troops: The offer can fade away on the clan chat, what will turn your offered troops available for use again or a "cancel offer" button will be on the clan castle, if you really need the troops and don`t want to offer anymore. If you hit that button, the offering desappears or turn gray, I don`t know. - Added by myself. Uthrac Got me thinking about this issue and I thank him/her.

8. Finally, you will be able to offer/request again when the time goes by or when you use gems to rush the time.

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Since the time out for donation is the same for offering, lots of people will not offer that much, to be able to ask a lot. That way, the problem of absurdly increasing the donation numbers reduces to almost zero.

Of course this will increase a bit, perhaps, the donation numbers. But since it has a time blocking and just as the requesting system, any random new player with bad intentions can hop in and use it, I think not every one will use this system. Perhaps players with the "NEW" status can`t pick troops? Idea from Goobers.

I know someone will say: "This is ridiculous! people will take the troops when they are not supposed to!"
Answer: - The same happens when you request a dragon, and someone place 5 archers there. And we deal with the problem finding whoever is not respecting the requests and talking or kicking out. This will just add a way to donate. So every one has the option of not using (just like I don`t use balloons). Remember that some clans are organized and will take big advantage on this kind of system. Who has a clan where members are not worth trust, Than solve the issues with the clan members. Remember that the game cannot force your guys to be the way you want. your internal clan rules should.

I know someone will say: "This will make donations numbers go insane!"
Answer: - We can make the Troops offer wait time double of the troops request time. Remember that some clans are international and time zones are not helpful on the 24 hours war.

I know someone will say: "Clan hoppers will take advantage on this."
Answer: - Just like as troops request, it is opened. If your clan is opened to anyone, be careful. Or simply don`t use. Remember. Some people never use Goblins or Balloons. But they still there for those who like them.

Now, Sorry for the lack of illustrations, but I am not that good on making them. I hope the detailed text is enough to tell what I think. If you are one of those people that know how to make good illustrations, feel free to make them, and I`ll incorporate on the original post with the proper credit.

And of course, Add ideas or make suggestions! I am not a SUPERCELL developer telling what I am doing. I`m just a player putting several posts together, to make our game more fun and practical.

Blue parts were written after the original posts. Those are suggestions made by the readers, that make sense to me.
Thanks for reading.

+1 from me, this could be so usefull for clan war

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Originally Posted by Ftorres

I know there`s several ideas on this theme and I`ve been reading them.
I found several issues pointed by the people that commented, what leaded almost all of those threads to become forgotten posts.


Now, the idea:

1. When you click on the Clan castle, instead of the regular options, the option OFFER TROOPS would be there as well. So it will be: Info - Upgrade - Request troops - Offer troops - Clan - Collect

2. Requesting system still intact. And Offering troops will be usable every 20 minutes (is that long enough?), being able to rush using gems. Just like requesting, but offering instead. This time can be reduced as clan perks increases.

3. The limit of housing space to be offered can be the same of the requesting limit, just to match the village level. Ilike that the limit of housing space to offer is the same as your CC capacity, however you should only be able to offer as many individual units as you could donate (5 without clan perks, 6 or 8 with), so if you offer archers, you can only offer 5, then in 20 minutes you could offer another 5, to make it 10, if nobody has picked up the first 5, so if you want nothing but archers in a CC with 30 capacity, it would take you nearly 2 hours to fill up your offer with just archers.

4. When you select the troops you want to donate, None of them leave your army camps until picked up by some one. You can let the replacement troops on wait at the barracks, or not use this feature, if this bothers you. Or, you can suggest something. I know this is a delicate point, by the comments I`ve read in other posts. Here is where I have my biggest question, What happens if you say, offer 5 archers, but then use them? You have no archers in your army camps but somebody tries to accept your offer. What happens if you offer 5 archers, then go nexting for an attack, while searching somebody accepts your offer, then you attack with all your troops, including those archers he took, did you just double up on archers?

5. When you finish selecting the troops you want to donate, give it a title, hit Offer and it will appear on the clan chat exactly like the donation request.

6. Of course this will increase a bit, perhaps, the donation numbers. But since it has a time blocking and just as the requesting system, any random new player with bad intentions can hop in and use it, I think not every one will use this system.

7. Once someone picked your troops, your donations count increase, your donation refund goes in and your troops leave your army camps to the bottom corner of the village.

8. Finally, you will be able to offer again when the time passes or when you use gems to rush the time.

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I know someone will say: "This is ridiculous! people will take the troops when they are not supposed to!"
Answer: - The same happens when you request a dragon, and someone place 5 archers there. And we deal with the problem finding whoever is not respecting the requests and talking or kicking out. This will just add a way to donate. So every one has the option of not using (just like I don`t use balloons). Remember that some clans are organized and will take big advantage on this kind of system. Who has a clan where members are not worth trust, Than solve the issues with the clan members. Remember that the game cannot force your guys to be the way you want. your internal clan rules should.

I know someone will say: "This will make donations numbers go insane!"
Answer: - We can make the Troops offer wait time double of the troops request time. Remember that some clans are international and time zones are not helpful on the 24 hours war.

I know someone will say: "Clan hoppers will take advantage on this."
Answer: - Just like as troops request, it is opened. If your clan is opened to anyone, be careful. Or simply don`t use. Remember. Some people never use Goblins or Balloons. But they still there for those who like them.

Now, Sorry for the lack of illustrations, but I am not that good on making them. I hope the detailed text is enough to tell what I think.

And of course, Add ideas or make suggestions! I am not a SUPERCELL developer telling what I am doing. I`m just a player putting several posts together, to make our game more fun and practical.

Thanks for reading.

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I like this idea at the moment, however I need to reflect on it deeper to decide for sure.

I have some responses in bold blue.

could this affect REQ N ♥♥♥♥ style clans?

I totally agree on that add on topic 3. "The limit of housing space to be offered can be the same of the requesting limit, just to match the village level. I like that the limit of housing space to offer is the same as your CC capacity, however you should only be able to offer as many individual units as you could donate (5 without clan perks, 6 or 8 with), so if you offer archers, you can only offer 5, then in 20 minutes you could offer another 5, to make it 10, if nobody has picked up the first 5, so if you want nothing but archers in a CC with 30 capacity, it would take you nearly 2 hours to fill up your offer with just archers."

That was forgotten by me and That surely must be inserted in the whole thing!

But on topic 4." When you select the troops you want to donate, None of them leave your army camps until picked up by some one. You can let the replacement troops on wait at the barracks, or not use this feature, if this bothers you. Or, you can suggest something. I know this is a delicate point, by the comments I`ve read in other posts. Here is where I have my biggest question, What happens if you say, offer 5 archers, but then use them? You have no archers in your army camps but somebody tries to accept your offer. What happens if you offer 5 archers, then go nexting for an attack, while searching somebody accepts your offer, then you attack with all your troops, including those archers he took, did you just double up on archers? "

You got me. I have actually no answer to that. Troops inside clan castle and donation camps, won`t work, because if no one pick your troops and your donation offer vanishes onto 100+ chat lines, what happens to the troops? vanish as well? I really need suggestions on that matter. Thanks for reading.

i like the offer troops idea because;
Players can deny bad troops and
people don't just give away barbs to get xp.

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Originally Posted by Ftorres

I totally agree on that add on topic 3. "The limit of housing space to be offered can be the same of the requesting limit, just to match the village level. I like that the limit of housing space to offer is the same as your CC capacity, however you should only be able to offer as many individual units as you could donate (5 without clan perks, 6 or 8 with), so if you offer archers, you can only offer 5, then in 20 minutes you could offer another 5, to make it 10, if nobody has picked up the first 5, so if you want nothing but archers in a CC with 30 capacity, it would take you nearly 2 hours to fill up your offer with just archers."

That was forgotten by me and That surely must be inserted in the whole thing!

But on topic 4." When you select the troops you want to donate, None of them leave your army camps until picked up by some one. You can let the replacement troops on wait at the barracks, or not use this feature, if this bothers you. Or, you can suggest something. I know this is a delicate point, by the comments I`ve read in other posts. Here is where I have my biggest question, What happens if you say, offer 5 archers, but then use them? You have no archers in your army camps but somebody tries to accept your offer. What happens if you offer 5 archers, then go nexting for an attack, while searching somebody accepts your offer, then you attack with all your troops, including those archers he took, did you just double up on archers? "

You got me. I have actually no answer to that. Troops inside clan castle and donation camps, won`t work, because if no one pick your troops and your donation offer vanishes onto 100+ chat lines, what happens to the troops? vanish as well? I really need suggestions on that matter. Thanks for reading. You could make it make it that instead of the troops sitting in the camp they sit in a separate slot in your CC, that way if you want to change your offering, you can dismiss them. This also takes care of the other issues I brought up.

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Answers in bold green.

If you have maxed out th10, join with you low level account, the high level account offers golems, the low level accepts them and wrecks bases....

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Originally Posted by Darkness12321

If you have maxed out th10, join with you low level account, the high level account offers golems, the low level accepts them and wrecks bases....

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You might not be understanding of the concept in relation to the way the system is now, if you offer a golem, it is still 30 housing spaces, you would have to be TH9 or TH10 with a high enough level CC to hold 30 housing spaces to be able to except the golem.

Sounds good