Make War Bases Static on Prep Day

Request: Do not allow war bases to be edited during prep day.
Details: Upgrades that complete on prep day would continue to affect your war base, but you could not place new buildings and walls or edit the placement of buildings and walls.

Reasoning
Editing your war base on prep day used to be the only time you could edit your war base. This has changed allowing this mechanic to be revisited. There are two main reasons why no allowing players to edit their war bases on prep day will improve the game, the first being the most important reason.

1) The potential for someone to change their war base at the end of prep day (just before war day starts) makes it difficult to discuss who will attack which base, what troops to use and even the details about how to go about attacking that particular base. Knowing that the layout of a base will not change as you look at it on prep day allows clans to get serious about preparing for war. They can better plan who will attack which base and help each other plan an attack on that base. They can also train their troops early so that they will be ready right when war day starts. People do these things now because war bases don't often change, but some (like myself) don't start training troops until war starts because the base might change. Being assured that a base won't change will make prep day a true preparation day allowing more than just filling war castles.

2) The matching system matches two clans based on the buildings, walls, troops levels and hero levels at the time of the war search. This change would prevent new buildings from being placed on prep day that would possibly affect the attack on that base (for example, a new x-bow or two being added on prep day). The matching system isn't perfect so these new buildings aren't that big of a deal, but I still believe this would be a slight improvement to the matching system mechanic, keeping the clans more true to the original match.

Drawbacks
1) Any change will cause some grumbling until they get used to the new way. Some may get caught by surprise by this change and have their base configured the wrong way as war starts and will be stuck, but that will only happen to them once.

2) The only way for people to get advice and help laying out their war base will be to copy it to their regular base so others can see it with them.

Summary
I believe this will allow clans that want to be more organized to go the extra mile and they will be rewarded by winning more wars. Clan wars should be designed so that disorganized clans can jump in and enjoy it, but should allow a clan that wants to be more organized to have that opportunity.

Thanks for considering this change.
-Drew

People could always change their war base in the last minute. True it is easier than before, but it’s not new.

Restricting war base edits on prep day severely disavantages organized clans who assist lower level people to better defend themelves.
An organized clan can still get their act together and plan targetting even when enemy bases change last minute.

Additional defense weapons are a rare occurence and never bother us.
Troops upgrades and barrack upgrades that finish during war impact on a clan’s offensive capability (you have ignored this point).
There will always be last minute changes in clans that can influence the outcome of a war. Live with it.

There is plenty of time to train and attack twice in the 24 hours of battle day. You don’t need to train in prep day, you just prefer to do it thst way. I prefer to train for multiplayer right up to battle day. Pre-training an army can actually make it harder for top donators. Not eveyone pre-trains for war.

We use prep day to guide lower level members, assess enemy villages as well as bases. It’s always been more than filling war base cc for us. There are many ways a clan be be an organized clan the don’t involve training armies.

I see no reason to restrict any type of clan during prep day.

So you are saying to not allow anyone to change war bases during prep day? The point of prep day is to PREPARE for the war. When are you supposed to switch/prepare your base then? During non-war? How about when a clan wars nonstop?

I just dont see your point and how it would help anyone out.

I could accept the premise of not allowing new builds to be active in war base if not active in village at start of war search (although I have used this to my advantage before), however, I disagree with not allowing the base to be edited / rearranged. I intentionally leave up a dummy base to maintain a tactical advantage, both against scouting but also random potential a spy might somehow make it in. I also expect that my enemies' bases are dummy bases prior to war start. So other than preparing some standard troops and spells that I take into every war, I don't cook the majority of my troops until after war starts. We have 24 hours to battle, which leaves plenty of time to respond and attack. If you are in a clan that is well enough organized to assign attacks in the first place, it is probably able to handle issues that come up.

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Originally Posted by teladybug

I could accept the premise of not allowing new builds to be active in war base if not active in village at start of war search (although I have used this to my advantage before), however, I disagree with not allowing the base to be edited / rearranged. I intentionally leave up a dummy base to maintain a tactical advantage, both against scouting but also random potential a spy might somehow make it in. I also expect that my enemies' bases are dummy bases prior to war start. So other than preparing some standard troops and spells that I take into every war, I don't cook the majority of my troops until after war starts. We have 24 hours to battle, which leaves plenty of time to respond and attack. If you are in a clan that is well enough organized to assign attacks in the first place, it is probably able to handle issues that come up.

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Exactly what I was gunna say

PS I love using the dummy base tactic ;)

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Originally Posted by teladybug

I could accept the premise of not allowing new builds to be active in war base if not active in village at start of war search (although I have used this to my advantage before), however, I disagree with not allowing the base to be edited / rearranged. I intentionally leave up a dummy base to maintain a tactical advantage, both against scouting but also random potential a spy might somehow make it in. I also expect that my enemies' bases are dummy bases prior to war start. So other than preparing some standard troops and spells that I take into every war, I don't cook the majority of my troops until after war starts. We have 24 hours to battle, which leaves plenty of time to respond and attack. If you are in a clan that is well enough organized to assign attacks in the first place, it is probably able to handle issues that come up.

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I was also gonna say this. 24 hours is PLENTY of time to formulate an attack strategy for any base. If youre cooking troops before the war starts then there lies your problem.

PREP DAY is just what it says. PREPARE your base, war castle troops, etc. Not my fault I put up a dummy base and now you gotta recook your troops.

I change my base on preparation day based on the enemy troops. For example, if their #1 has level 5 hogs and low level everything else, then I use my anti-hog base.

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Originally Posted by arpz2004

I change my base on preparation day based on the enemy troops. For example, if their #1 has level 5 hogs and low level everything else, then I use my anti-hog base.

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Exactly, I scout the opposing bases, usually 3 up and 1 or two down from my position just to get an idea of what I might be facing. Seems like the OP just wants to get of prep day completely lol :facepalm:

I can definitely see some great advantages to this. Lots of people are saying that 24 hours are plenty of time to get your attacks in, but they're forgetting one thing. Many people work for most of the day, greatly reducing the time that you have to attack. My clan's schedule starts right before I usually to go to bed, meaning I am either forced to train my troops early, and risk my opponents changing their layout, or wait till I get off work the next day to use both attacks in the evening. Yes I can attack from work, but who brings their Ipad's with them to work? It's very difficult to execute a complex attack on a tiny Iphone, and while it is feasible to get both attacks in during the evening, it's a lot more stressful to have to worry about 2 attacks at a time when I just want to relax a little.

However, I agree with the point made that prep day is for helping your members improve your base, and that it would be a pain to have to switch your war base to your normal base to show other people your war base, so I have a couple of possible solutions to that problem.

1. Lock the bases with 2 or 3 hours left in prep day, to still give people the time to train their troops, but allow for most of the day to be open to change your base, but still allow time for people to train their troops ahead of time. This would also give people a chance to change their layout based on their opponent's troops.

2. Make an option when viewing a player's profile (only in your clan), to view their War Base, this wouldn't fix all of the problems, but it would help to make it easier for people to help you change your base during any time, whether it's on war day, prep day (viewing any changes since prep day started) or even off war.

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Originally Posted by BrisingrStenr

I can definitely see some great advantages to this. Lots of people are saying that 24 hours are plenty of time to get your attacks in, but they're forgetting one thing. Many people work for most of the day, greatly reducing the time that you have to attack. My clan's schedule starts right before I usually to go to bed, meaning I am either forced to train my troops early, and risk my opponents changing their layout, or wait till I get off work the next day to use both attacks in the evening. Yes I can attack from work, but who brings their Ipad's with them to work? It's very difficult to execute a complex attack on a tiny Iphone, and while it is feasible to get both attacks in during the evening, it's a lot more stressful to have to worry about 2 attacks at a time when I just want to relax a little.

However, I agree with the point made that prep day is for helping your members improve your base, and that it would be a pain to have to switch your war base to your normal base to show other people your war base, so I have a couple of possible solutions to that problem.

1. Lock the bases with 2 or 3 hours left in prep day, to still give people the time to train their troops, but allow for most of the day to be open to change your base, but still allow time for people to train their troops ahead of time. This would also give people a chance to change their layout based on their opponent's troops.

2. Make an option when viewing a player's profile (only in your clan), to view their War Base, this wouldn't fix all of the problems, but it would help to make it easier for people to help you change your base during any time, whether it's on war day, prep day (viewing any changes since prep day started) or even off war.

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Who says you can only play on an ipad? You can train your troops and/or attack while taking a dump or on lunch break. I hate the excuses of people who can't multitask and sign on for between 30 seconds and 4 minutes for 8+ hour chunks at a time.