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Hello, all! I have recently started using hogs rather than drags to prepare for TH9. However, my hogs always split into two groups and I have to abandoned a group with just 3 heals. Anyone have any suggestions on how to keep a pack of hogs together, or any TH8 hog tips in general?
I have watched all the videos on TH8 hogging, by the way!
Cheers, and thanks to all that reply!
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Have you tried surgical hogs?
Yes, I did OK at it in the times I tried it. But in mass hog how do you keep them in a big group?Quote:
Originally Posted by jemro774
Not sure if it is possible to keep your hogs in 1 group. No matter what I do, the hogs, even if released in the same manner, will sometime stray off into a couple of different groups. If they DO break into different groups, it is when two defenses are on either sides of the defense that the 1 group of hogs are working on. If the two defenses are around the same distance from the center defense, then it is most likely that the hog's A.I. will split the hog group up. This is just an observation from me, but other people might know more or have different observations.
OK. But how do I know where to place the heals if they stray?
I found this guide extremely helpful:
https://jtjclan.wordpress.com/2015/0...ring-clan-war/
The key to keep them in a group is to destroy some defenses prior to launching the hog attack. You can use balloons, some hogs or like explained in above guide a Golem/King plus the CC-kill wizards to do it (KH1 they call it). You just need to make sure that hogs "flow" around the base like you want them too.
Bases are usually a ring of defenses, if you just launch a hog attack they will likely split and one group will follow the ring in clockwise direction, with the other group goes counter-clockwise. This bad because then it is hard to cover both groups with only 3 healing spells.
That's why you need to "cut" the ring. That way the hogs follow an C shaped path (assuming the cut is made on the right), mostly sticking together in a single group.
Another problem is that not all defenses are placed in nice path for hogs to follow, for example a corner or outside defense might cause the hogs to have to back up to kill a single defense, which just slows down the attack. Slow is bad for hog attacks, you have a limited amount of heal spells which last a limited amount of time. The faster all the defenses go down the better.
Bases are almost never the perfect base for hogs, so you need to shape the base to make it perfect for hogs. That's what hogging is really about. ;)
If both the strayed group and the main group are in large numbers, then I would probably use 2 heals for both groups, one for the strayed group and the other for the main group if needed. If only a couple hogs stray, then I guess it is fine to let them die out and focus your heals on the main group UNLESS the small group of strayed hogs are about to take out an area where a lot of defenses are clumped together that can all nearly fit in a heal spell OR are about to take out some crucial defenses. Sometimes I see pro hoggers still use heals for tiny groups of strayed hogs, but this is what I would do. I'm no hog expert, but you can probably check this strategy in some videos for hogging.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackAtk
Well, first off you should not be deploying hogs in one group. You either do streams, an asain wall, or surgical deployment. If you found a video saying to send out one group of hogs then I'd like to know who exactly it was, since that is the single most worst way to deploy your hogs. You should not be wanting 30+ hogs all hitting one defense at a time. You should want your hogs spliting, since it increases the damage output and reduces the time of the raid, which can be vital.
Thanks, guys! You helped a lot, I will keep you posted. I'm taking their top TH8 with only L3 hogs (which could be part of it, too!) Not too tough of a base, though :)
Cheers!
Yeah, got a three-star pretty easy. Thanks, guys!