Why you're seeing less loot - updated Town Hall penalty

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Originally Posted by Moseszator

Was I trying to compete? Perhaps you just lost a raid that's why you're raging around, making illogical and unnecessary comments on people's threads. Or perhaps the number of uneducated people is rising... I think I'll go for the second.

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Im glad its not just me thinking this.
when I first came on the forums, hb seemed like a cool guy, now he is just trolling these forums leaving childish comments.
i could understand if he was a top player with a chip on his shoulder, but he isn't.
So do us all a favour hb and grow up.

This is exactly what is happening in the top clans, it's ominous for SC - but we all warned them it would happen.

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Originally Posted by Sneakydave

actually alot of the people I've been speaking to have stopped buying gems and have just shielded up with what they have left, alot of talk about quitting is floating about. This next update will make or break the top clans. Their all fed up with the pointless excessive costs up the top. Most people now just play for the social aspect.

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Originally Posted by Daddy

This is exactly what is happening in the top clans, it's ominous for SC - but we all warned them it would happen.

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Kind of sad really

yeah, and definitely not sustainable

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Originally Posted by Sneakydave

Kind of sad really

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hi guys,

this is indeed sad but the group mentality doesn't exist in this game despite its title.


everyone that is annoyed will try and get their clan mates to quit but will they really?



Supercell know all of this and it probably doesn't concern them!!

:(

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Originally Posted by Keywal

hi guys,

this is indeed sad but the group mentality doesn't exist in this game despite its title.


everyone that is annoyed will try and get their clan mates to quit but will they really?



Supercell know all of this and it probably doesn't concern them!!

:(

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Quit or not I know a lot of previous big spenders have hung up their fighting gloves and called it a day on that front, pretty sure that message will get across just fine.

One aspect of this game impacts on another. If you are looting less, then the defender is keeping more...both are good depending on who you are.

If there was a way to supplement gold via non looting means, then the problem could be solved - ie people dont get looted to such an extent they feel incapable of upgrading and those looking for gold have mines, looting nd perhaps more single player missions OR campaigns to get more gold...

Some ideas:

Challenges that come with gold rewards:

Raid 5 people in 10 minutes and gain 15 stars Reward - 200k gold. Once a day
Raid 10 people using only dragons and gain at least 10 stars. Reward - 250k gold...

Look, i'm making this up off the top of my head but you get the idea. Is single player challenges BUT they require you to play the multiplayer game unlike the single campaign missions

Also, how about some single player missions designed by us?! You get to design a new mission every week and are given a set number of walls / defences etc. You load this base with YOUR own resources and then release it into the population for people to play. Now, an attacker must pay 10k gold to fight, if an attacker fights and 3 star wins, they get all your resource (that you sacrificed) but it is automatically replenished for the next guy and you only need to load it with resource once. Now, what do you get?? Well, even if they win or lose, you get the cost of their army as Elixir - so if their army cost 80k elixir, that is what you get as reward. You also get the 10k gold that they paid to fight you.

Why bother with this?? I appreciate its close to the multiplayer game but the difference is that, well, its a bit different and given the number of players who are getting quite strong with limited things to do, this offers a new aspect of the game to keep them entertained. It is also an extra stream of income which stops people relying on raiding for their gold / elixir. As you progress, the upgrades are so expensive that playing the game becomes a bit of a chore. I am already playing less because I know it takes days to save up for one upgrade so I just play a few fights, get a shield, wait for it to run out and play a bit more...gone are the days when i'd grind all day to get loot because its no fun when the average fight is 50k...

anyway...there you go

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Originally Posted by carlito

One aspect of this game impacts on another. If you are looting less, then the defender is keeping more...both are good depending on who you are.

If there was a way to supplement gold via non looting means, then the problem could be solved - ie people dont get looted to such an extent they feel incapable of upgrading and those looking for gold have mines, looting nd perhaps more single player missions OR campaigns to get more gold...

Some ideas:

Challenges that come with gold rewards:

Raid 5 people in 10 minutes and gain 15 stars Reward - 200k gold. Once a day
Raid 10 people using only dragons and gain at least 10 stars. Reward - 250k gold...

Look, i'm making this up off the top of my head but you get the idea. Is single player challenges BUT they require you to play the multiplayer game unlike the single campaign missions

Also, how about some single player missions designed by us?! You get to design a new mission every week and are given a set number of walls / defences etc. You load this base with YOUR own resources and then release it into the population for people to play. Now, an attacker must pay 10k gold to fight, if an attacker fights and 3 star wins, they get all your resource (that you sacrificed) but it is automatically replenished for the next guy and you only need to load it with resource once. Now, what do you get?? Well, even if they win or lose, you get the cost of their army as Elixir - so if their army cost 80k elixir, that is what you get as reward. You also get the 10k gold that they paid to fight you.

Why bother with this?? I appreciate its close to the multiplayer game but the difference is that, well, its a bit different and given the number of players who are getting quite strong with limited things to do, this offers a new aspect of the game to keep them entertained. It is also an extra stream of income which stops people relying on raiding for their gold / elixir. As you progress, the upgrades are so expensive that playing the game becomes a bit of a chore. I am already playing less because I know it takes days to save up for one upgrade so I just play a few fights, get a shield, wait for it to run out and play a bit more...gone are the days when i'd grind all day to get loot because its no fun when the average fight is 50k...

anyway...there you go

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it would be nice in some land but where does the other stream of income come from ?


not raining on your parade but no chance of selling gems means a non-starter for an idea.


K

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Originally Posted by Keywal

it would be nice in some land but where does the other stream of income come from ?


not raining on your parade but no chance of selling gems means a non-starter for an idea.


K

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People still could / would buy gems for builders...I spent about $20 myself on getting gems for builders. That is not insignificant and if they kept enough people emotionally attached to the game (by giving them things to do) then chances are they'll buy a builder or two...

I boils down to understanding your customer base and keeping them entertained an playing. When people who used to spend gems stop, then you are doing something wrong, and from what i read, people are slowing down on the gem buying front...

You cant give more loot without upsetting defenders so the only solution I see is a new income stream...the gem route exists now yet we see new threads all the time about people not having enough resource so clearly, it is not working...and when its not working, people stop playing and SC will not want that...

Let's keep this topic on track. It's about the stricter penalty, not wishful thinking about new games mechanics that we know they'll never implement, and not "you should play the game my way".

This thread is to solicit facts and feelings on the stricter penalty, how it is affecting you, and possible consequences.

We still don't have any official word of whether this update was intentional or a a bug that was reintroduced like the revenge loop. Please, somebody give us the official word.

Thank you.