Really need to become proficient with CB and shattered

Hey guys!

recently I've been moving from clan to clan in order to find one in which I would fit pretty well. I really like clan wars and I would like to become a good war attacker. I've been th9 for about a month, I have lvl 10 heroes, lvl 2 lava hound, lvl 6 balloons of course, as well as lvl 4 golems (in 10 days), next I will be bringing minions to lvl 5.

anyway, I got to know that CB laloon is pretty much the best 3 star strategy and I wanted to become good at using it. I managed to almost 3 star a th9 in a recent war (99% because of the time), but know I completely messed up and failed an attack. and with fail, I mean 40% 0 star.

here's the base I attacked
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ym3tygiooq...44-06.png?dl=0

I put my lvl 5 cc golem to the side of a queen, followed by a line of wizard and then the heroes. jump spell so that they could destroy the AD near the queen, then I started the laloon attack putting 2 hounds on an AD and one on the other one, with balloons following and rages when needed.

what could I have messed up? please can anyone give me some advice to improve my skills?

:)

You didn't mention how you dealt with the clan castle. Did you lure and kill? Did you bring a lightning? A cc can seriously wreck any raid if you don't handle it. Without seeing the actual troop deployment its hard to say what went wrong. Assuming you did take out the enemy queen and an air d, your chance for success should have been good. But those are level 7 air defenses, so bad deployment could have wrecked you. Usually you send the hounds first from different angles to set off traps, then spread balloons to target the defenses. Work your way around the base so things flow through the middle. Keep practicing...

if you did the following, which i assume you did from you post:

1 golem (cc)
2 hounds
rest loons
probably some wiz/archers/something to help go in and kill the AQ+1AD

Problem is you need more tanking power. With CB you are trying to take out 1 AD, CC troops and the AQ. From there you have 3 left over ADs, which would tell me to bring 3 or 4 (preferable) to destroy the remaining ADs with targeted loons. A clockwise or counter clockwise motion is also ideal.

More practice would be best, but in a war situation i would stick to what i know and work new attacks outside of clan wars. Good luck!

The possible thing that u could screwed up, are placement of loons. U ned to spread them around the base, not in one location. I like to send 2-3 per defence and rage them when are close to AD.

Be carefull at towers, that arent in range of air defences, so they wont lock on lava hounds, but on your loons, which u dont want to. U need to look at path as well. Many things that can go wrong...it isnt that easy as it looks.

Scout>execution

Try and get your funnel correct. Place your wizards carefully for this.

Here are some clips to help you buddy:

Laloonion

TH9 Laloons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCShOXlh-ww

TH9 and TH10 Laloon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jwFjNbprI

TH9 Gohowiwi Hogs and Laloonion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVbSxg6A0G4

TH9 Lavaloon TH9 Hogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgy9ArT8Xpw

TH9 How to Golaloon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9a7j65eb1Y

Did you lure and kill cc troops?

There are plenty of 3 star vids out there of laloon and golaloon, but it ain't as easy as it looks. If you study those vids, a lot of times the attacker was lucky in the way the loons pathed or in the placement of traps. I don't see many in which there are a ton of loons and pups left at the end.

Luring cc is key, and taking out the AQ and one AD seems to be the best method, so shattered or cold blooded laloon is prob the best chance for 3 star. Especially after the update, because the pups no longer kill the AQ as quickly (coc must have changed their attack priority).

I've been practicing for months and can only 3 star bases outside of war. In war I get 1 or 2 stars usually. It's a frustrating attack strategy unless you understand pathing well, which apparently I am too stupid to comprehend.

I'm looking forward to upgraded golems so I can switch to gowipe. Then at least I can consistently 2 star other th9s.

Possible answers:
- CC troops killed you army
- your hounds died too early, allowing defenses to pick off your loons
- your hounds didn't pop (into pups)
- your loons were deployed too early or too late, or improperly
- you misplaced rages/spells
- you didn't assess and exectute loon pathing properly
- you didn't balance your hound:loon ratio properly

I'm sure there are others but this will give you an idea on how many different factors could screw up a raid.

I'm guilty of the same thing as the OP.
I had a lvl2 golem in my CC plus a lvl 4of my own
3 wb broke the first wall and a jump got them to the ad and queen
4 wiz, lightning and my lvl 20 queen killed the CC, queen,ad and a wiz tower
Dropped 3 lavas and my loons
Rage the lavas
x bows shredded them and no stars for me.

I screwed up by dropping my lavas to early.
It took too long for my loons to reach the AD

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Originally Posted by sheds

I'm guilty of the same thing as the OP.
I had a lvl2 golem in my CC plus a lvl 4of my own
3 wb broke the first wall and a jump got them to the ad and queen
4 wiz, lightning and my lvl 20 queen killed the CC, queen,ad and a wiz tower
Dropped 3 lavas and my loons
Rage the lavas
x bows shredded them and no stars for me.

I screwed up by dropping my lavas to early.
It took too long for my loons to reach the AD

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the hounds are less important to rage than the loons...so drop your rage just enough to hit your hounds, and the balance of the spell range is to get the loons as quickly to the ADs as possible...you are not trying to kill the AD with the hound, that's part of the loons job, hounds are just a distraction

Anyone mentioned the skeleton trap set for air? Those buggers can wreck your day.

Remember there are two keys in order to have a successful LaLoon raid wether it's CB, shattered or Penta (still works on bad base designs.)

1 - Have to lure and kill CC
2 - Have to kill AQ

CB works best when the AQ is near the edge of the base and you can get to 1 ads. The golem tanks her and whatever defenses are in the area. The base pictured there a CB would do it, but a shattered would be ideal because it will tank much longer and give your AQ a chance to get that second air def. Your biggest struggle there would be keeping your AQ on point and the key to that is funneling.

Now that's 2 tanks for 2 ads plus the AQ. You'll need 3 tanks for the remaining 2 ads. Now I prefer to bring a max hound in the CC as opposed to a max golem because you'll get more bang for the buck once it explodes with the extra pups. With your two ads and AQ dead you release your CC hound first on the strongest AD along with one of your own, follow it up with balloons. 1 for canon, 2 for archer towers and wiz towers deployed according behind your hounds. don't hesitate, deploy quickly and they will funnel in towards that AD which should kill your max hound. Rage the space from the ad back to the gap where the bulk of your balloons are coming from. Your surviving hound will head towards the last ad. Send your single hound on the last ad with balloons in behind it as well in the same manner as you did against the 3rd ad. The surviving hound will join your other hound. Even if it pops your single hound will tank long enough for your balloons to arrive to kill the ad.

Once that stuff is down it's basically cleanup time. Don't get caught up watching the battle or you will run out of time. Once your hounds, loons and rage spells are out start deploying cleanup troops.

Another general rule of thumb on a CB laloon bring 4 hounds, on a shattered bring 3. It's not always the case but what you need are basically more "tanks" than the base can handle. 5 tanks for 4 ads. You BK can also act as a tank for your own AQ and kill squad.

Even when you have the plan worked out, deployment is key, especially the timing of it. Also FWIW, I would have GoHoLoed the hell out of that base instead!

thank you so much for the reply guys!

I will try to follow your advice and I will watch the videos you linked ASAP.

I'll let you know how it goes the next time :)

Here are also some videos to help you with lavaloons.