Clan Castle Troop Upgrade

I've been in one of the higher ranked clans recently and have noted that they have a minimum archer level donation requirement (all seems reasonable to me as low level troops in a higher level players cc can be a bit of a liability in defence or a bit disappointing in attack). I've seen some high level trophy wise players refused and I've seen people kicked for sharing lower level troops and I think I have a solution that could bring the community closer together.

So how about when troops are donated, the person who receives them can pay some elixir to upgrade them? I have no specific costs in mind but say 10 or 20 elixir per low level troop and an incremental increase for higher level troops.

I think this would give lower level players a chance at getting into some of the better clans and increase teamplayer appreciation. The last clan I was in (my own) had so many arguments and complaints that low level troops are a liability that when minimum requirements were introduced the clan almost died. If Supercell could have a look at this and implement it in some future update I think it would be great for the Clash of Clans player community and you never know, it might even increase sales by a small margin due to the extra elixir used.

Let me know what you think.

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Originally Posted by DeathKnell

I've been in one of the higher ranked clans recently and have noted that they have a minimum archer level donation requirement (all seems reasonable to me as low level troops in a higher level players cc can be a bit of a liability in defence or a bit disappointing in attack). I've seen some high level trophy wise players refused and I've seen people kicked for sharing lower level troops and I think I have a solution that could bring the community closer together.

So how about when troops are donated, the person who receives them can pay some elixir to upgrade them? I have no specific costs in mind but say 10 or 20 elixir per low level troop and an incremental increase for higher level troops.

I think this would give lower level players a chance at getting into some of the better clans and increase teamplayer appreciation. The last clan I was in (my own) had so many arguments and complaints that low level troops are a liability that when minimum requirements were introduced the clan almost died. If Supercell could have a look at this and implement it in some future update I think it would be great for the Clash of Clans player community and you never know, it might even increase sales by a small margin due to the extra elixir used.

Let me know what you think.

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Interesting. Very interesting...

Thanks KingSolice and I appreciate your vote.

Also I notice that someone voted no (I won't mention names as you didn't leave any comment) and am wondering if you would give a reason as to why? Is it something against the idea itself or is there something I'm missing on Supercell's T&C's?

I like this idea, but I think the cost to upgrade the troops should be the difference between the cost of the troop donated and the cost of whatever troop level you are upgrading to.

I also imagine that you'd only be able to upgrade troops to the current level of your troops.

To keep it simple, I think there would be a single button titled "Upgrade Troops" that would show when you inspect the CC. When pressed it'd bring up a confirmation screen with the cost to upgrade everything in the castle.

I don't have a problem with the way it is now but I would definitely pay an upgrade charge if it was an option.

It's not a bad idea. But I like the idea of a level/unit filter on what people can and can't donate a little better. It would prevent players without level 5 archers in top tier clans and such from donating, which in turn would press upon them the urgency to get their S*** together.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

I like this idea, but I think the cost to upgrade the troops should be the difference between the cost of the troop donated and the cost of whatever troop level you are upgrading to.

I also imagine that you'd only be able to upgrade troops to the current level of your troops.

To keep it simple, I think there would be a single button titled "Upgrade Troops" that would show when you inspect the CC. When pressed it'd bring up a confirmation screen with the cost to upgrade everything in the castle.

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Dahimi I appreciate your well thought out response. I agree that the CC owner should only be able to upgrade to their own level of troop, as for the cost I hadn't really thought about it that much but again the idea seems feasible. Thanks for adding some more depth to the idea.

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Originally Posted by Zombiebender

I don't have a problem with the way it is now but I would definitely pay an upgrade charge if it was an option.

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Thanks for the input Zombie but no vote :(

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Originally Posted by Tandyman217

It's not a bad idea. But I like the idea of a level/unit filter on what people can and can't donate a little better. It would prevent players without level 5 archers in top tier clans and such from donating, which in turn would press upon them the urgency to get their S*** together.

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Thanks for the response. I think that the filter is also a viable idea but I like to champion the newer player base too. I get a warm feeling accepting some new lowbie in and helping to nurture them into a fighting force. I think this way is a little more player friendly :)

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Originally Posted by Tandyman217

It's not a bad idea. But I like the idea of a level/unit filter on what people can and can't donate a little better. It would prevent players without level 5 archers in top tier clans and such from donating, which in turn would press upon them the urgency to get their S*** together.

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The idea here is to promote community.

If you've got a clan with people at all sorts of different stages of development, the people at earlier stages can still contribute without your castle being stuffed with low level troops that aren't nearly as useful to you as the high level ones you currently possess.

Why would it be better to prevent people from donating over adding a mechanic to simply make the troops more useful to you?

Why should troop donations be the driving force to compel people to upgrade? If you want a clan with only high level peeps, simply make that a clan requirement. Plenty of clans already do that.

Also consider that a filter and this idea are not mutually exclusive. This idea would be much easier for Supercell to implement though.

This would be good but one dragon level and one archer level to increase should be different since one dragon level is much stronger than one archer level.

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Originally Posted by Tigerlw

This would be good but one dragon level and one archer level to increase should be different since one dragon level is much stronger than one archer level.

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As said earlier by dahimi (and what I was thinking), what should happen is you would pay the difference between the training costs, and you could only pay for it to come up to the level you have.

For example,
Player gives you level 1 barbarian (costs 20 to train)
you have level 4 barbarians researched (cost 80 each)
to upgrade, you would pay 60 each barb
You could not upgrade past 4 since that is what you could currently train

Good idea, but say your clan requires you to donate lvl 5 archers only. However, in your attack setup, you dont use archers, and all you have is lvl 1. All this does for you is save you money, because now you can donate "lvl 5" archers, and at no extra cost to you. So it could potentially just save certian people money, while other people who spent their money to upgrade a troop for this reason previously will have wasted their money.

Btw, thats the only flaw in it I can find, so good job ;)

No support, sorry.

The point of Clash of Clans is to advance and progress. Troop donations in clans are one factor that people advance towards: people often take pride in having high level troops for donations.

The only people that this would really benefit would be the member with the maximum level troops. They could receive level 1 archers from noobs that would automatically turn into level 6. Also, if this were to be the case, then there would have to be something that would balance it out: having troops higher level than yours be automatically downgraded to your level (i think this was removed in a previous update a long time ago). If you had level 1 archers, but someone donated

It's better for lower levels to join lower leveled clans, such as a feeder clan for the high level clan. When my sister joined my clan, she felt out of place, receiving donations of high level troops but not being able to give back. Now that I put her in the feeder, she feels much more at home, where there are others around her that are her level, so she can now be an active contributor.

Having this sort of system would create more clan unity when there is a large level disparity, but it is one step towards being able to donate troops to yourself. If you have high level troops, and you are receiving lower leveled ones from lower leveled players, you should take those as is. If you can't accept being a leader, and receiving lower leveled troops, there are higher level clans that are more suitable.

I don't get the point of what you say in the middle but I agree with these:

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ericrootbeer[/COLOR]]The point of Clash of Clans is to advance and progress. Troop donations in clans are one factor that people advance towards: people often take pride in having high level troops for donations.

Having this sort of system would create more clan unity when there is a large level disparity, but it is one step towards being able to donate troops to yourself. If you have high level troops, and you are receiving lower leveled ones from lower leveled players, you should take those as is. If you can't accept being a leader, and receiving lower leveled troops, there are higher level clans that are more suitable.

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The point of Clash of Clans is to advance and progress. Troop donations in clans are one factor that people advance towards: people often take pride in having high level troops for donations.

They still could. The fact that the person you are donating them to can upgrade them doesn't mean you couldn't and shouldn't take pride in donating leveled troops.

The only people that this would really benefit would be the member with the maximum level troops. They could receive level 1 archers from noobs that would automatically turn into level 6. Also, if this were to be the case, then there would have to be something that would balance it out: having troops higher level than yours be automatically downgraded to your level (i think this was removed in a previous update a long time ago). If you had level 1 archers, but someone donated

The troops would cost resources for you to upgrade. That is your "balance". I also don't understand the logic in forcing higher level troops to be downgraded. This scheme benefits everyone and does so at no expense to anyone. This isn't going to unbalance the game or cost Supercell tons of money in profits.
Higher level people can turn weak troops into strong ones if they so desire. Lower level people can contribute without actually detracting from the effectiveness of other people's armies. It's win-win.

It's better for lower levels to join lower leveled clans, such as a feeder clan for the high level clan. When my sister joined my clan, she felt out of place, receiving donations of high level troops but not being able to give back. Now that I put her in the feeder, she feels much more at home, where there are others around her that are her level, so she can now be an active contributor.

That's debatable. It may be that lower leveled people would feel more at home in clans with others that have similar playing conditions as them. Then they can talk strategy, building upgrades, and what not. That doesn't mean that is true for everyone. There is absolutely no reason why social clans (ones not trophy focused) should not welcome lower level members. This proposed idea removes any possible issue that currently exists with having these people in the clan.

Having this sort of system would create more clan unity when there is a large level disparity, but it is one step towards being able to donate troops to yourself. If you have high level troops, and you are receiving lower leveled ones from lower leveled players, you should take those as is. If you can't accept being a leader, and receiving lower leveled troops, there are higher level clans that are more suitable.

This is a slippery slope argument where there is in fact no slippery slope at all. What additional steps do you envision being added such that you can actually donate troops to yourself? What justification would there be for those steps? It's not like the idea of changing one troop type to another is being proposed. I would reject such a proposal. You also tell me that I should accept lower leveled troops "as is" but provide no justification for why I should do that. I also reject the idea that people should leave their clans, their community if you will, if they want better troops.

I see nothing really exploitable with this idea and I'm confident if the game always had this feature, the vast majority of people would not want it to be removed.

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Originally Posted by ericrootbeer

The only people that this would really benefit would be the member with the maximum level troops. They could receive level 1 archers from noobs that would automatically turn into level 6.

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I think dahimi covered most of it. But it would benefit players of any level not just players with level 6 troops, players with level 2 troops would jump at the chance to upgrade donated troops. And no where is it mention it would be a automatic system of upgrade.

i think the cost dahimi talked about is right its just they are given new armour and weapons if the player wants to.

if you think their should be more to it, personally I don't but you could say the upgrade can only take place if you have a free Barracks ( its a bit like how you need a builder to upgrade a wall) it takes no time up but a barracks must be available.

Good luck with the idea lets hope it gets taken up score 1 for clans next something for them to do as a clan

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-or-prizes-for

i guess if it bothers you that much... you can have at it. I say yes.

Thanks for the replies folks, does anyone think there's the slightest chance that Supercell would implement this?

Im not sure if you changed it, those replies were confusing, but, Why should I have to pay to upgrade if YOUR troops aren't.....Lol, I just realized how selfish that is, I get it now. But, if there is a clan standard, say level 4 for donations (2 for big troops) The person donating should have to pay the extra, for not having the required level

I definitely wouldn't mind paying to upgrade donated troops to my own level of troop. It would give newer players a much stronger chance of joining established clans where they can grow as a part of the team and benefit from longer term player's knowledge. I'm not sure it could work as simply if the donating player had to pay to upgrade to different levels of troops for each donation. I appreciate you taking the time to post, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Mikazzi

Im not sure if you changed it, those replies were confusing, but, Why should I have to pay to upgrade if YOUR troops aren't.....Lol, I just realized how selfish that is, I get it now. But, if there is a clan standard, say level 4 for donations (2 for big troops) The person donating should have to pay the extra, for not having the required level

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Also I noticed that you think it sounds selfish having the onus on the new player to upgrade their troops, yet you still voted no. Which makes me wonder whether this poll could tell us more about the player base that's answered.

Would voting yes mean that you're a helpful teamplayer that wants to help lower level players?

Would voting no mean that you're a selfish or elitist player that looks down on lower levels?

Hardly a scientific way of finding out I suppose but it could be food for thought =]

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Originally Posted by DeathKnell

Also I noticed that you think it sounds selfish having the onus on the new player to upgrade their troops, yet you still voted no. Which makes me wonder whether this poll could tell us more about the player base that's answered.

Would voting yes mean that you're a helpful teamplayer that wants to help lower level players?

Would voting no mean that you're a selfish or elitist player that looks down on lower levels?

Hardly a scientific way of finding out I suppose but it could be food for thought =]

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Attacks on other players aren't welcome here. I voted no because I think there are more pressing matters supercell needs to deal with, and there always will be more important things than this.

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Originally Posted by Mikazzi

Attacks on other players aren't welcome here. I voted no because I think there are more pressing matters supercell needs to deal with, and there always will be more important things than this.

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Attacks on other players where? If you read a personal attack in that message you have a confidence issue. Seriously, you need to lighten up and get out of that mob mentality that seems to be pervading these forums lately. It's not about a small group of people trying to bully (online bullying LOL) or pressure people into writing whatever that group thinks is right only. Don't like my thread? Then don't read it!

BTW you were invited to read this thread to give an opinion on whether it was a good idea, not whether Supercell have other priorities. You don't own Supercell so how do you claim to know what their priorities should be? Try having some respect for other users of this forum who are customers of Supercell that wish to add to a forum EXACTLY the same as you. Don't pretend to better informed than anyone else here as plain and simply you are not. We're all only guests here so try and treat the place with some respect =]

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Originally Posted by DeathKnell

Attacks on other players where? If you read a personal attack in that message you have a confidence issue. Seriously, you need to lighten up and get out of that mob mentality that seems to be pervading these forums lately. It's not about a small group of people trying to bully (online bullying LOL) or pressure people into writing whatever that group thinks is right only. Don't like my thread? Then don't read it!

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Here, on the forums. And right there, I read a personal attack, meaning I have confidence issues? Im not sure if your analysis (for lack of a better word) on my post was a personal attack at me, this is the Internet, things are often miscommunicated. I meant I don't want this to turn into a flame war, like so many other threads. Since this is a thread about an idea I don't support, not a flame war, i probably won't come back here.

Nothing to add to this idea :0 WAIT, no nvm, I would just be restating what I already said

Since we seem to be editing: I don't claim to know supercell's priorities, it just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Mikazzi

Here, on the forums. And right there, I read a personal attack, meaning I have confidence issues? Im not sure if your analysis (for lack of a better word) on my post was a personal attack at me, this is the Internet, things are often miscommunicated. I meant I don't want this to turn into a flame war, like so many other threads. Since this is a thread about an idea I don't support, not a flame war, i probably won't come back here.

Nothing to add to this idea :0 WAIT, no nvm, I would just be restating what I already said

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That was a lot of talking all about nothing. You stated there was a personal attack made against you, I corrected you. No need for you to linger here. Goodbye