Clan Wars - simple solution

I have seen many great ideas about how to implement clan wars. The problem is they are so out of the box Supercell would need to make major changes to the game. My suggestion below would take little programming and satisfy what we are all longing for.

1) Have an option button to search for a specific clan to battle or you can have the game find one like we do now

2) both sides have to approve the war

3) The first clan to reach 1000 (or some other #) trophies against each other wins the war

4) a war chat room so both enemies can banter with each other

5) keep clans win/loss record with war history for others to see.

This is a simple change. Keeps how the game is currently setup and gives us what we want.

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Originally Posted by BizZaRo

I have seen many great ideas about how to implement clan wars. The problem is they are so out of the box Supercell would need to make major changes to the game. My suggestion below would take little programming and satisfy what we are all longing for.

1) Have an option button to search for a specific clan to battle or you can have the game find one like we do now

2) both sides have to approve the war

3) The first clan to reach 1000 (or some other #) trophies against each other wins the war

4) a war chat room so both enemies can banter with each other

5) keep clans win/loss record with war history for others to see.

This is a simple change. Keeps how the game is currently setup and gives us what we want.

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whats up if inferior lvls are not online, only it would attack the best players of the clan?

It could use the same match making method the game uses now.

I am open to all ideas as long as we keep it simple and with in the same gaming concept we have now. I think that is the only way SC will create clan wars.

For example if you do not like the first clan to 1000 trophies wins then how about after the 2 week period is up the clan with most trophies wins. Let's keep it in the confinement of the game as it exist today.

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Originally Posted by BizZaRo

I have seen many great ideas about how to implement clan wars. The problem is they are so out of the box Supercell would need to make major changes to the game. My suggestion below would take little programming and satisfy what we are all longing for.

1) Have an option button to search for a specific clan to battle or you can have the game find one like we do now

2) both sides have to approve the war

3) The first clan to reach 1000 (or some other #) trophies against each other wins the war

4) a war chat room so both enemies can banter with each other

5) keep clans win/loss record with war history for others to see.

This is a simple change. Keeps how the game is currently setup and gives us what we want.

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Yes it would be a simple solution but this is not what most players want. What they want is for clans to "battle" with each other. Like Clan vs. Clan, sort of like a battle arena, troops vs troops. What you are saying is a good idea but the way they battle should be different. Good job, keep it up!

I like Kings idea, a new arena would be cool! one problem though; what if the better levels prey on the smaller ones, like most farmers do now? (If Supercell went through w/ it)

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Originally Posted by BizZaRo

I have seen many great ideas about how to implement clan wars. The problem is they are so out of the box Supercell would need to make major changes to the game. My suggestion below would take little programming and satisfy what we are all longing for.

1) Have an option button to search for a specific clan to battle or you can have the game find one like we do now

2) both sides have to approve the war

3) The first clan to reach 1000 (or some other #) trophies against each other wins the war

4) a war chat room so both enemies can banter with each other

5) keep clans win/loss record with war history for others to see.

This is a simple change. Keeps how the game is currently setup and gives us what we want.

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This isn't a little programming, it is a lot of programming. I'm pretty sure few people desire this implementation as well.

King,

I understand what you are saying and think that would be great too. But, that is a major change to the game. I do not see them creating it. My thought is; keep the change simple and with in the game as it exist.

My simple solution does put clans against each other and adds a new dimension to the game.

Dahami,

I think the programming of this idea is the smallest I have seen to date. It uses most of the programming already in the game.

Correct me if I am wrong?

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Originally Posted by BizZaRo

Dahami,

I think the programming of this idea is the smallest I have seen to date. It uses most of the programming already in the game.

Correct me if I am wrong?

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It uses elements of things that exist. However this is still adding lots of stuff. The logic for comparing clans, a new chat room with associated logic, user interfaces, etc.

It would be a big deal. All to support a mechanic that isn't too compelling. People don't want to trophy race clans. They want to be able to attack them somehow. Of course it's a lot easier to say we want clan wars and much harder to come up with a non exploitable way to do it that is fun and worth the monumental amount of effort adding them to the game would be.

So much effort in fact it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't come out until CoC 2.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

It uses elements of things that exist. However this is still adding lots of stuff. The logic for comparing clans, a new chat room with associated logic, user interfaces, etc.

It would be a big deal. All to support a mechanic that isn't too compelling. People don't want to trophy race clans. They want to be able to attack them somehow. Of course it's a lot easier to say we want clan wars and much harder to come up with a non exploitable way to do it that is fun and worth the monumental amount of effort adding them to the game would be.

So much effort in fact it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't come out until CoC 2.

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It is probably my ignorance on programming but I still do not see this as a big deal.

-Comparing currently goes on at the individual user level so you would still use that logic but compare at the clan level.

- We currently have global and clan chat. It would be the same but combine the 2 clans in war to a different War chat tab.

- Clan battles would be exactly as they are now but you are restricted to the ones against the other clan. (maybe two attack buttons. One to attack those you are warring and one to attack as we do now). So although it is a trophy race you do need to attack the enemy to win.

As far as what people want is a different issue. I just do not see SC making drastic changes as what you suggested. I think a small change in the game which gives us some sort of clan battles is more probable.

Comparing currently goes on at the individual user level so you would still use that logic but compare at the clan level.

You clearly cannot have people choosing specific clans because one side could throw the war and the other side could reap the rewards. This means they have to build in an entire clan match making system. How do you do that? Do you use the existing ranking system? How do you keep players from manipulating it? For example what if a clan preloads with weak players, joins the a clan war, and then swaps out the weak players for ringers? How do you do that when the the number of trophies in a particular clan change constantly as the members in the clan fight single player battles?

How do players evaluate criteria for choosing whether or not to attack the clan? Right now when match making you get 30 seconds to evaluate the base you are matched with. So adding this means you have to develop a way of doing this and a UI to support it. Also what about inactive clans? How do you deal with them?

How does the accept mechanic work? What if you challenge a clan and they don't accept? How many can you challenge at once? What if you are matched with a clan and while evaluating it, they match with and accept another battle?

I'm certain I can go on, but I think I have made my point that there is a lot of stuff in there to consider.

We currently have global and clan chat. It would be the same but combine the 2 clans in war to a different War chat tab.

Global chat works completely different from clan chat. Also clan chat is uncensored and easily managed. How do you manage war chat? What happens if you are a kid friendly clan and you are matched with a clan that has very raunchy chat? You can't simply use the same reporting mechanism as global, otherwise war chat would be useless.

Clan battles would be exactly as they are now but you are restricted to the ones against the other clan. (maybe two attack buttons. One to attack those you are warring and one to attack as we do now). So although it is a trophy race you do need to attack the enemy to win.

Attacking must be random for a number of reasons that have already been outlined in this forum numerous times. That aside how do you deal with other issues? What happens when people leave and join the clan? Also consider the ringer issue again. What about high level clans where the individual members spend hours and hours online? How do they attack each other? What happens when high level clans are matched together? The pool for them is much smaller, what would keep them from forming alliances and using this mechanic to up their trophy counts?

As far as what people want is a different issue. I just do not see SC making drastic changes as what you suggested. I think a small change in the game which gives us some sort of clan battles is more probable.

I don't either which is why I don't see clan wars becoming an actual reality. This game is not built for that sort of activity. You would really need to base the entire game around that mechanic as opposed to trying to tack it on to the existing one.

This would be cool but some clans have very high level players and very low level players.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

Comparing currently goes on at the individual user level so you would still use that logic but compare at the clan level.

You clearly cannot have people choosing specific clans because one side could throw the war and the other side could reap the rewards. This means they have to build in an entire clan match making system. How do you do that? Do you use the existing ranking system? How do you keep players from manipulating it? For example what if a clan preloads with weak players, joins the a clan war, and then swaps out the weak players for ringers? How do you do that when the the number of trophies in a particular clan change constantly as the members in the clan fight single player battles?

- that is why I said both sides have to approve the war. You have the option to select a specific clan or have the game match one. In both cases both sides need to approve.

How do players evaluate criteria for choosing whether or not to attack the clan? Right now when match making you get 30 seconds to evaluate the base you are matched with. So adding this means you have to develop a way of doing this and a UI to support it. Also what about inactive clans? How do you deal with them?

- again you can reject the war. So this point is mute. The clan that request a war gets time to look at them and the clan accepting gets time also. If the clan is inactive then no one can accept.

How does the accept mechanic work? What if you challenge a clan and they don't accept? How many can you challenge at once? What if you are matched with a clan and while evaluating it, they match with and accept another battle?

- my friend you are surely nit picking. There are many easy solutions to this. 1) 24 hours to select or 2) if in another war you will not be able to select them 3) could be in multiple wars at once.. There are many ways to go about it... It really does not matter but all would work just fine.

I'm certain I can go on, but I think I have made my point that there is a lot of stuff in there to consider.

We currently have global and clan chat. It would be the same but combine the 2 clans in war to a different War chat tab.

Global chat works completely different from clan chat. Also clan chat is uncensored and easily managed. How do you manage war chat? What happens if you are a kid friendly clan and you are matched with a clan that has very raunchy chat? You can't simply use the same reporting mechanism as global, otherwise war chat would be useless.

- ummmm.., how about just use the same rules and programming as the global chat then.

Clan battles would be exactly as they are now but you are restricted to the ones against the other clan. (maybe two attack buttons. One to attack those you are warring and one to attack as we do now). So although it is a trophy race you do need to attack the enemy to win.

Attacking must be random for a number of reasons that have already been outlined in this forum numerous times. That aside how do you deal with other issues? What happens when people leave and join the clan? Also consider the ringer issue again. What about high level clans where the individual members spend hours and hours online? How do they attack each other? What happens when high level clans are matched together? The pool for them is much smaller, what would keep them from forming alliances and using this mechanic to up their trophy counts?

- there is no answer for people coming and going. If that is a game change stopper than there will never be any kind of clan wars at all. I really wish you would stop being so negative and look for solutions.


As far as what people want is a different issue. I just do not see SC making drastic changes as what you suggested. I think a small change in the game which gives us some sort of clan battles is more probable.

I don't either which is why I don't see clan wars becoming an actual reality. This game is not built for that sort of activity. You would really need to base the entire game around that mechanic as opposed to trying to tack it on to the existing one.

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Please read my comments above.

I would really like this thread to be one of looking for easy solutions on how we can help Supercell getting clan wars into the game.

Let's stop the negativity and start looking for easy solutions.

Got to Bump it