Redoing the shield system

Bad idea. This would partially destroy farmers, and SC purposely added that strategy as a part of the game. Also, some are focused more on trophies rather then loot. Example:

- Jim has no loot after spending it all. he's also in master's league.
- He goes to bed (8-10 hours)
- he's attacked multiple times because he can't get a shield from losing X amount of loot.
- He losses an insane amount of trophies, completely destroying the whole point of the trophy system.

Farming to get free shields is part of the game. CoC is about strategies, and just because not everyone uses the same strategy as you doesn't mean they gotta be forced over to your side.

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Originally Posted by dennisjm

I don't agree that you'd get more loot. It takes time to train up an army regardless of how many times I hit next. The next cost is pretty small compared to the loot I get. The time is of much more concern. Basically in other words, I think I'd get the same amount of loot but lose more.

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And where do you think that mystery loot is going if you lose more but gain the same? For every bit more loot you lose, someone else gains more, which means that on average you're seeing bases with more loot, meaning you're gaining more. The more active you are, the more attacks you'll have (each making slightly more money) and less will attack you, and the more you have to gain.

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Originally Posted by Callywally

Bad idea. This would partially destroy farmers, and SC purposely added that strategy as a part of the game. Also, some are focused more on trophies rather then loot. Example:

- Jim has no loot after spending it all. he's also in master's league.
- He goes to bed (8-10 hours)
- he's attacked multiple times because he can't get a shield from losing X amount of loot.
- He losses an insane amount of trophies, completely destroying the whole point of the trophy system.

Farming to get free shields is part of the game. CoC is about strategies, and just because not everyone uses the same strategy as you doesn't mean they gotta be forced over to your side.

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Which is why I added the idea that we factor in the loot bonus (factored in depending on how many stars you have). In the master's league, you're getting a win bonus of 200k resources. Let's say you have to lose 400k resources to get a shield at his TH level. Jim has no money, but is attacked twice for 3 stars both times. Jim has now given 400k in resources, and gets his shield.

If he's 1 or 2 starred, add 33% or 66% of the loot bonus to the amount towards shield since that's proportionate to the amount of trophies he had.

Your concern is definitely valid, which I realized and then edited it to include something along those lines earlier (don't think I mentioned the 1 and 2 star giving a percentage of it prior to this post). This would benefit higher leagues because no people have incentive to have loot, rather than dump it in hopes they don't get attacked, and so attackers get more loot.

Of course, in lower leagues where the concern is about loot and not trophies, you'll have to give up the loot to get a trophy. It's a win win and functions properly on both ends of the spectrum.

EDIT: And if Jim wants trophies and not loot? He can put his storages outside of his base, give an attacker all his money, and get a shield AND trophies.

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Originally Posted by thebuch4

And where do you think that mystery loot is going if you lose more but gain the same? For every bit more loot you lose, someone else gains more, which means that on average you're seeing bases with more loot, meaning you're gaining more. The more active you are, the more attacks you'll have (each making slightly more money) and less will attack you, and the more you have to gain.

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It would go to those that stay logged in all day and/or gem and attack a lot fast.
Mine would disappear every time I go to bed.

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Originally Posted by dennisjm

It would go to those that stay logged in all day and/or gem and attack a lot fast.
Mine would disappear every time I go to bed.

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Which are the players Supercell is targeting since they provide most of their income lol. But what TH/league are you in that you get a free shield every time you sign off anyway? I'm an 8 around 1500 trophies and it takes hours to get a shield with an exposed TH most of the time, and there's a 50/50 chance I'm farmed anyway.

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Originally Posted by Callywally

Bad idea. This would partially destroy farmers, and SC purposely added that strategy as a part of the game. Also, some are focused more on trophies rather then loot. Example:

- Jim has no loot after spending it all. he's also in master's league.
- He goes to bed (8-10 hours)
- he's attacked multiple times because he can't get a shield from losing X amount of loot.
- He losses an insane amount of trophies, completely destroying the whole point of the trophy system.

Farming to get free shields is part of the game. CoC is about strategies, and just because not everyone uses the same strategy as you doesn't mean they gotta be forced over to your side.

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The cumulative loot threshold solves this.

So if I have a really good farming base where attackers rarely get 50% of my loot if they tried, I would basically lose loot over and over. Some guy can hit me for 100k each, next attacker gets 100k again, etc.

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Originally Posted by thebuch4

Which are the players Supercell is targeting since they provide most of their income lol. But what TH/league are you in that you get a free shield every time you sign off anyway? I'm an 8 around 1500 trophies and it takes hours to get a shield with an exposed TH most of the time, and there's a 50/50 chance I'm farmed anyway.

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I'm hovering between gold 2/3 around 1450-1650 trophies usually. Almost maxed th8. Just have some walls left and a few dark troops to finish maxing. Just started the pekka 3 upgrade today. I had 6m elixer sitting for the last week waiting for my research to finish up and I hardly got anyone even trying for it. (Yeah I know gold is what everyone wants at this stage..)

noooo
lets just say someone guards his storage's very well, and someone destroys 80% but dosent break the storages, the person who got attacked will not get a shield and lose trophies

The star system depends on how much damage you've caused in a base, not by how much loot you've stolen.

This idea would ruin the farming tactic as well as the trophy system.
Farming is a way in CoC to save up LOTS OF LOOT for further upgrades to one's base. Having this idea in the game would ruin it for everyone else.

...In what manner would farming be ruined, you might ask?
Let's just say a player named "Alex" is a farmer and has saved up 500K Gold and Elixir thanks to his farming skills. Then he goes off to take a rest. A few minutes later, somebody in a lower league comes in to attack Alex's base. He could just go and take out the Town Hall and leave but he didn't earn a star. He notices the loot and goes for it. He gets a star and leaves, with 250K Gold and Elixir stolen. Alex gets back on and sees his storages halved because of a recent attack.

...I just noticed while I was typing this down, this idea is like farming and trophy-pushing combined. Someone wants trophies and he has to steal about 150K of available loot to get a star and immediately leave.. But this strategy would be quite hard to do as farming bases have their storages inside surrounded by defenses.