Elixir: Is it overused?

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I've played Clash of Clans for a while now... and i really think Elixir is overused. By overused I mean i think it is consumed faster than it is produced.

Two resources: Gold and Elixir. I didn't include Dark Elixir because, while it was produced at a very low rate, the only equipment that demand Dark Elixir are Heroes, Dark Elixir troopers and Inferno Towers, so I consider them somewhat irrelevant, in this case.

Gold is used primarily for upgrading structures (base defenses, Traps, Town halls, walls) as well as Elixir Resource related structures (Elixir Collector and Storage). Gold is also used to replenish traps.

Elixir is used for Upgrades, primarily army related structures (Barracks, Laboratory, Spell Lab, Army Camps) as well as Gold related Structures (Gold Collector and Storage) and some defensive buildings (Wizard Tower). I also would like to add they're primarily used to upgrade Dark Elixir related structures.

Here's a clincher: Elixir is also used to produce armies. When one upgrade their base structure and defenses with gold, that upgrade is something that happened only once. You upgrade the wall, and that's it. You don't have to spend another cent to replenish it when it's destroyed in an attack. You lose a trap to an attack, fine, you had to replenish it. But when you suffered a massive damage to your base, you get a 12-16 hour barrier, which is more than enough time to cover the cost of the trap re-arming.

But Elixir is used at almost a routine basis. You produce armies with it. You upgrade armies with it, in which case the cost of producing army went up, which is acceptable, but that also increase Elixir Consumption even more. Here's what I'm trying to point out: The Elixir' consumption rate is significantly faster than gold. I went farming (sometimes with massed Barbcher + a couple of Breakers - the most efficient farming army I used to date) and I always ended up with more gold than elixir. Based on what I've seen on most of my targets, they also suffered the same problem: they have more gold than elixir to be looted.

My suggestion: I'm not asking to lower the cost, but would it be possible to have the Elixir production rate to be increased above Gold... like increase the amount of Elixir produced by Collectors by 20% or so (I know one can boost Elixir Collector with gems, but I'm talking a permanent increase, not just temporary), or add more Collectors that can be build, add more upgrades to Elixir Collectors, or have some of the upgrades (like Laboratory and barracks) be upgraded with gold instead?

This is an interesting one I think you are right to a certain extent for TH10s and possibly TH9s but not really for any other TH level.

My main account is a TH10 and I rarely use spells in raids - why because of their expense - for me to train even a basic army compsoiton with spells would make quite a lot of raids not very economically viable - the solution to this problem however would be to push from crystal to masters league - and this is where I think your argument unfortunately is flawed - if Elixir production were to be increased you will see a lot more TH9 and 10 bullies in the lower leagues. I think by limiting the production rate as it is helps make people think about trophy pushing to get the loot bonus. So I would almost vie for there to be a lower production rate.

Sorry just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by ajslayerlord

First, I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this Thread. Please notify me of a better spot to place it if that's the case.

Now, on to the main topic.

I've played Clash of Clans for a while now... and i really think Elixir is overused. By overused I mean i think it is consumed faster than it is produced.

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My suggestion: I'm not asking to lower the cost, but would it be possible to have the Elixir production rate to be increased above Gold... like increase the amount of Elixir produced by Collectors by 20% or so (I know one can boost Elixir Collector with gems, but I'm talking a permanent increase, not just temporary), or add more Collectors that can be build, add more upgrades to Elixir Collectors, or have some of the upgrades (like Laboratory and barracks) be upgraded with gold instead?

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reach th 8 you will get your answer. and then you will be begging 2 or 3 more mines for gold from SC.

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Originally Posted by darkRuler

reach th 8 you will get your answer. and then you will be begging 2 or 3 more mines for gold from SC.

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Umm... Could you be more specific? What kind of answer are you referring to?

Okay, I understand your struggle.
Not that I've experienced it. But I see what you're saying.
However, upgrading troops, spells, and army camps have a direct 'global' affect on your army. Meaning, upgrade the troop or spell once. *Bam*. Now every troops or spell you choose to create will be that level. Now with Defensive towers (gold consumption buildings), each has to be upgraded individually. So taking the upgrade cost, and the increased training cost for Troops and Spells, that use Elixer; And the Defense Towers and Walls, which use gold. Taking into account that, as stated earlier, defenses have to be upgraded individually. If we then compare Offense and Defense in their use of each resource. I'd say that it is fairly eaqul, even gold probably takes more.
Maybe it's just you with your elixer shortage crisis, but in my experience I haven't a problem getting elixer.
And your 'analysis' provided regarding how you came to your conclusion is slightly scewed. Perhaps the reason people you attempt to raid have little elixer compared to their gold (so you say) is because they have so much so often that they always spend it.
Have you considered that possibility? That before you view their base and see their low elixer, that they've allotted the majority of their elixer on an upgrade. Whilst they have more gold because they are saving it up.
That's just my view on it.

My main account is a TH9 and I dont have that problem.
I went up to cristal league and hunt exposed TH with my king. It doesnt cost me any elixer to destroy that TH and gives me a bonus when the TH gets destroyed.
This problem isnt actually a problem that needs to be solved by SC. I think you need to adjust your tactics to get the elixer you need. Some examples to get more elixer are:
1. Use cheaper troops,
2. Hunt exposed TH,
3. Go up to leagues with better bonus,
4. Attack villages with full pumps and mines
5. Spread out your tanks so attacking troops have a hard time to get all your tanks and therefor loot a lot less elixer from you

Personally I feel that Elixir is fine. Gold on the other hand I never have bough of.

Is it just me, or is this COMPLETELY backwards? Elixir is MUCH more plentiful than gold (until you are 100% capped at a TH which it then reverses, but who cares, you are capped.

The exception being TH9/10 when you are capped except walls, you upgrade more walls with gold then you do elixir, but you should have already spent tens of millions, if not a hundred million elixir on walls since it takes so much more gold to cap everything then it does elixir.

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Originally Posted by SirCamA

Okay, I understand your struggle.
Not that I've experienced it. But I see what you're saying.
However, upgrading troops, spells, and army camps have a direct 'global' affect on your army. Meaning, upgrade the troop or spell once. *Bam*. Now every troops or spell you choose to create will be that level. Now with Defensive towers (gold consumption buildings), each has to be upgraded individually. So taking the upgrade cost, and the increased training cost for Troops and Spells, that use Elixer; And the Defense Towers and Walls, which use gold. Taking into account that, as stated earlier, defenses have to be upgraded individually. If we then compare Offense and Defense in their use of each resource. I'd say that it is fairly eaqul, even gold probably takes more.
Maybe it's just you with your elixer shortage crisis, but in my experience I haven't a problem getting elixer.
And your 'analysis' provided regarding how you came to your conclusion is slightly scewed. Perhaps the reason people you attempt to raid have little elixer compared to their gold (so you say) is because they have so much so often that they always spend it.
Have you considered that possibility? That before you view their base and see their low elixer, that they've allotted the majority of their elixer on an upgrade. Whilst they have more gold because they are saving it up.
That's just my view on it.

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Yes. You've made some fine points. I agree on the part that infantry upgrade affects globally. And perhaps you're right about my 'targets' but you just repeated my point: Elixir is used more often than gold. If not for upgrade then army building. But my point is, when Gold is used to upgrade a building, let's say you capped off the base defense, you have no more need to spend more gold on it on a routine basis (not unless Supercell decided to add a feature where Base defenses need gold to repair PLEASE Supercell don't add that!:saywhat:). Elixir are constantly used. For the most diligent of players, they can be used at daily basis for base raiding, and they still allocate some for upgrades. It's hard to 'save' Elixir.

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Originally Posted by ajslayerlord

Yes. You've made some fine points. I agree on the part that infantry upgrade affects globally. And perhaps you're right about my 'targets' but you just repeated my point: Elixir is used more often than gold. If not for upgrade then army building. But my point is, when Gold is used to upgrade a building, let's say you capped off the base defense, you have no more need to spend more gold on it on a routine basis (not unless Supercell decided to add a feature where Base defenses need gold to repair PLEASE Supercell don't add that!:saywhat:). Elixir are constantly used. For the most diligent of players, they can be used at daily basis for base raiding, and they still allocate some for upgrades. It's hard to 'save' Elixir.

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Its not hard to save up elixer if you use the right tactics

If you use expensive armirs,yes,you gain elxir rathr slowly.

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Originally Posted by Garithos

If you use expensive armirs,yes,you gain elxir rathr slowly.

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Dont use expensive troops then ;-)