Someone PLEASE sell me on barbarians!

I have tried various farming methods using both barbarians and giants. I am very active and attack back to back as soon as my troops generate so using the Giant/Healer method is not to my liking as the healers are too slow to create and require me to take out air defenses before going after the resources. Also, healers aren't cheap. To understand my dilemma, I'll give you a bit of back story.

I just started playing 5 weeks ago. I am level 60 and I am one of those idiots who kept upgrading my town hall because I didn't have the sense to come here first and read. I am currently at TH 9 with the following troops:

Barbarian: Lvl 4
Archer: Lvl 5
Goblin: Lvl 2
Giant: Lvl 4
Wall Breaker: Lvl 4
Balloon: Lvl 1
Wizard: Lvl 3
Healer: Lvl 1
Dragon : Lvl 1
PEKKA: Lvl 1

Minion: Lvl 1
Hod Rider: Lvl 1
Valkyrie: Lvl 1
Golem: Lvl 4

Spell Factory Lvl 3
Lightning Lvl 4
Heal: Lvl 1
Rage: Lvl 2

Army Camp: Lvl 6

Archer Queen: Lvl 1
Barbarian King: Lvl 2


Essentially, The only farming troop I have that is where it should be is my archer and I am about to upgrade her to Lvl 6.

Here's my issue. I try farming with Barbarians but their "supposed" high health means nothing because one good splash shot from high level mortars kill them just the same as archers and they have a tendency to clump together and go after targets other than resources. They seem to provide no distraction whatsoever (like giants do) and they die a fast death leaving my archers prone to mortar fire. I fight too fast to rely on using 3 lightning spells to take out mortars. Right now, I am farming by using around 100-ish archers with 5 Giants, 5 Wall Breakers and 30-40 Minions. I use the archers to take out pumps and air defenses within their reach then I send in all of the minions at once (raged if possible) to the point closest to the resources. If I don't use the minions then I use the giants and wall breakers (Also raged) to create a path for my archers to the resources. This tactic works VERY well and almost always results in me gathering 90% or more of the resources and getting a star or two in the process. I only go after bases with 200K or more in combined resources.

I would really love to find a way to incorporate barbs into my farming strategy but they seem no better than archers and they go after everything except what I want them to.

Yeah, premature TH9 is always bad.

I'm not sure what you're trophy range is, but at ~1000 trophies I use:
20-30 Archers (lvl 3
6 Giants (sometimes more) (lvl 2)
6 Wall Breakers (lvl 2)
Rest Goblins (lvl 3)
And a lightning Spell (lvl 3)

The premature TH9 isn't so much of an issue. I can gem my way out of that mistake (and I have been). The issue is that I would prefer to use the cheaper barbs over the giants in order to increase my profit but they seem to have few redeeming qualities other than their low cost. I could be using them wrong but I can't really see any other way to use them other than like Giants. What am I missing here?

i just uses a few barbs to set of traps and to lure out cc troops and as a cheap distraction on collector raids, i usually use giants

So...essentially canon fodder? Hmm that's a thought. Let me set the traps off.

The thing is, you have to use a lot of barbarians to make them useful. When they get together they rip through bases, especially when you have lots of wall breakers. The bombers allow the barbarians to keep moving, avoiding the mortar shots. They aren't the ideal troop, but considering their low cost and train time, they are efficient. I recommend having at least 50 (I use 60 in my army) to allow them to benefit from the "swarm" effect. I also recommend using them in tandem with archers.

So maybe 10 wall breakers, 50 barbs and the rest archers? I'll give that a go.

How many troops can you hold. For farming (when all my barracks are active) I use 60 barbs, 100 archers, 20 goblins, and 10 bombers. I can get almost any decently upgraded town hall 8 or 9. I carry 2 lightnings to get rid of offending splash towers and a rage if I really need to crack into a base.

first upgrade those gobs!

70gobs
40archers
and the rest barbs...
will get the job done.

p.s. an hour ago i got and 800k loot. Oh and i recommend the 1200 range and just get all the resources in the pump!

Wow level 60 in 5 weeks. Seriously pushing it there dude!


erm I use


60 Gobs
60 Archers
60 Barbs
6 Giants
5 Wall breakers


All max level.


Deploy giants, generally closest to splash damage weapons, usually 3 and a wall breaker, at either side, or depending on amount of defences the other side of the wall. A few barbs, a few archers. Then maybe gobs, then throw down the rest of the barbs, to clear a path with archers cleaning up the rest, gobs i use really to help push towards the resources, create my own funnelling system, and if its a tough base, use a rage spell, to help break the core, trust me before I started using Barbarians i thought they were worthless, they are actually, I find a huge advantage to my attacks, it just working out how!

Mix and match the whole lot, come up with your own design and attack style, but honestly they are a great advantage, also cheap.

let us know what you think of them after some practice

I just queue up 2 of my barracks with gobs, and 2 of my barracks with archers, so 100/100 but can be 70/130 sometimes

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Originally Posted by Mikazzi

I just queue up 2 of my barracks with gobs, and 2 of my barracks with archers, so 100/100 but can be 70/130 sometimes

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Sssh your supposed to be selling barbarians to the OP!

I would explain it in detail, but read this since I am short on time, if you need help further just ask me I have used nothing but the barb/arch combo for 1-3 months, so I know my way around with them.

Here is the guide by baconman:

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...b+archer+combo

Check out my barb/archer guide. It isn't as viable at TH9, but it may be worth a shot while you get back on your feet.

I use these troops for farming to 3 star bases for more loot per raid I usually get 250000+ per raid
10 giants for distraction deploy near mortars to prevent splash damage destroying the weaker troops.
31 barbarians and 25 archers to destory the buildings
1 healer sometimes I use it to heal the giants if I want 3 stars
5 wizards if I have after my last raid so that next time I have stronger units otherwise I train 20 archers in place of them
5 wallbreakers to let my troops into the base
Clan castle- sometimes I use the 20 archers that I have in there if it is a close match and they will make me win

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Originally Posted by Eccentricity

I have tried various farming methods using both barbarians and giants. I am very active and attack back to back as soon as my troops generate so using the Giant/Healer method is not to my liking as the healers are too slow to create and require me to take out air defenses before going after the resources. Also, healers aren't cheap. To understand my dilemma, I'll give you a bit of back story.

I just started playing 5 weeks ago. I am level 60 and I am one of those idiots who kept upgrading my town hall because I didn't have the sense to come here first and read. I am currently at TH 9 with the following troops:

Barbarian: Lvl 4
Archer: Lvl 5
Goblin: Lvl 2
Giant: Lvl 4
Wall Breaker: Lvl 4
Balloon: Lvl 1
Wizard: Lvl 3
Healer: Lvl 1
Dragon : Lvl 1
PEKKA: Lvl 1

Minion: Lvl 1
Hod Rider: Lvl 1
Valkyrie: Lvl 1
Golem: Lvl 4

Spell Factory Lvl 3
Lightning Lvl 4
Heal: Lvl 1
Rage: Lvl 2

Army Camp: Lvl 6

Archer Queen: Lvl 1
Barbarian King: Lvl 2


Essentially, The only farming troop I have that is where it should be is my archer and I am about to upgrade her to Lvl 6.

Here's my issue. I try farming with Barbarians but their "supposed" high health means nothing because one good splash shot from high level mortars kill them just the same as archers and they have a tendency to clump together and go after targets other than resources. They seem to provide no distraction whatsoever (like giants do) and they die a fast death leaving my archers prone to mortar fire. I fight too fast to rely on using 3 lightning spells to take out mortars. Right now, I am farming by using around 100-ish archers with 5 Giants, 5 Wall Breakers and 30-40 Minions. I use the archers to take out pumps and air defenses within their reach then I send in all of the minions at once (raged if possible) to the point closest to the resources. If I don't use the minions then I use the giants and wall breakers (Also raged) to create a path for my archers to the resources. This tactic works VERY well and almost always results in me gathering 90% or more of the resources and getting a star or two in the process. I only go after bases with 200K or more in combined resources.

I would really love to find a way to incorporate barbs into my farming strategy but they seem no better than archers and they go after everything except what I want them to.

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I play with different troop comps all the time, and I completely get what you're saying about the vulnerability of archers against splash damage defenses. This is even more magnified with heavily segmented bases.

With TH9 the xbows used to deter me from raiding. Nowadays, I have a renewed faith in a farming comp that has actually done well for me, even against TH9-10 with xbows and heave segmentation of walls.

40 barbs
8 giants
10 wbs
100 archers

The barbs are indeed useful. They are not just meatshields. They have decent dps, and decent hp. I use barbs mainly to clear some fringe buildings around my point of entry. Giants are still going to be your main meatshields, but I don't deploy them first. Giants come out on the second wave, after I am sure my point of entry is not fettered by other fringe buildings where archers or barbs for that matter can get distracted.

What I'm saying here is use maybe up to 10 barbs to prepare the onslaught for you. Back them up with a decent amount of archers, then send in the wbs and or giants, in whatever order makes sense against the timing of the defense firing. 100 archers are the best troops to send in behind giants and barbs headed to the core of a segmented base. Their ability to shoot over walls will pave the way faster. Of course, if you can manage it, distract splash dmg defenses with the giants and barbs while your archers take them out.

Barbs are also great against heroes and CC troops. Their hp is large enough to hold the CC or heroes' attention while your troops clear them out.

Use multiple touch when deploying. Archers en masse with barbs and giants in front of them will ruin that base.

Hope this is helpful. Good luck, I am TH8 and I farm anywhere in the range of 1200-1600.

Archers are way better than barbs, I use 10 wbs, 40 gobs and 140 archers to farm between 1000-1200. I usually only use a couple of wbs too! Try it out you wont be disappointed! All troops are maxed btw

My first post here....
Barbs are great if they are appropriate level to the defenses you are attacking. Level 4 Barbs aren't that great, neither are most of your other troops.
My advice (I'm a near maxed out TH7) is that if you can gem your way out of trouble as a TH9 who got there prematurely, then the very first thing you should do is just gem your Lab and all your troops to MAX. You will have a lot more fun, use less troops and collect more loot on every raid. Sure the troops cost more, but the efficiency overcomes that and then some.