TIps for mismatch complaints threads

Oh and my current match we have two each of th10 and they have 5 th9 to our two . They actually seem to be taking advantage of new builds as new xbows showed up in two of the th9 during prep day . Good timing for them and I assume they didn't count in the matchmaking . So yes that's 16 xbows to our 10 for people that count that sort of thing .


our top two seem equivalent in troops and their top th9 is pretty similar to ours but after that it seems that our higher th8 have troops better than their rushed th9 ... So overall they have stronger defences ( 3 more bases out of a war of 15 with xbows ) and we have a few guys with noticeably stronger offence ... Seems a fair match to me .

This is an example why people say not to just cite th levels. We have the th disadvantage as usual ( as a clan that preaches maxing troops as well as d we never have a th advantage ) yet we win the bulk of our wars ( 8-0-2) in the last 10 and we are very much NOT experts .

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Originally Posted by Gadzair

Agreed with OP but after the recent update I have noticed an increase in mismatches. In our current war, we are a lvl 5 clan facing a lvl 4 clan, and the clan lvl difference isn't being compensated at all; in fact, my clan has the upper hand in terms of th levels, player levels and troop levels. .

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lets take the three things you cite

th level alone ... Irrelevant to war by itself except for the added hit points but can is necessary to unlock troops and defenses

player levels ... Completely irrelevant ... I ( a mid-max th9) am a higher level than two of our th 10 despite the fact that have max gollems , lavaloonian, pekkas, dragons etc etc , as well as upgraded infernos , full spells. And all three xbows . Why am I higher level ?? I donate and clean up my base more . Makes no difference in war

troop levels .. Crucial .. If you have better troops you have an advantage there

three other things you didn't cite would have an impact

defenses ... Maybe that was implied by saying th level but they CAN be very different
heros ... Not mentioned and can be a big deal on both offence and defence
walls ... Lesser Impact but still in the mix

if all these things are in your favor I would be confused how a mathematical weighing could result in your match. It doesn't fit my experience . Usually I see certain things tilted one way and other advantages another way. One can dispute if they balance well enough I guess but to me it's resulted in some great matches .

two questions about your match that you see as completely in your favor ( assuming you still see it that way after considering the other three factors I mention )

1. Did your match take a long time ? Ie could the matchmaking process have widened its search ?
2.is there anything unusual about your clan like defenceless bases , th 9.5 , lots of low th3 types, big gaps in strength, ? I am trying to understand better what could lead to these matches . Because a computer should use math and weightings so it just doesn't make sense for all the advantages to be one way


laxtly .. I don't see perk 5 as that big an advantage ... It can he huge for clans with top players at th 8 or 9 but It matters not at all to clans with

a multiple max troops th10
b respect to attacks if they have an in war or outside the war th 10 contributing max troops
C respect to defence if there are enough max troops th10 to fill the defence cc

Also note that every th8 and below will get three starred anyway regardless of the defence cc troops so I am not seeing a huge advantage in war. It makes it a bit tougher , that's all . The biggest advantage for us is that it reduces the burden on certain players to fill cc.

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Originally Posted by Flubber41

lets take the three things you cite

th level alone ... Irrelevant to war by itself except for the added hit points but can is necessary to unlock troops and defenses

player levels ... Completely irrelevant ... I ( a mid-max th9) am a higher level than two of our th 10 despite the fact that have max gollems , lavaloonian, pekkas, dragons etc etc , as well as upgraded infernos , full spells. And all three xbows . Why am I higher level ?? I donate and clean up my base more . Makes no difference in war

troop levels .. Crucial .. If you have better troops you have an advantage there

three other things you didn't cite would have an impact

defenses ... Maybe that was implied by saying th level but they CAN be very different
heros ... Not mentioned and can be a big deal on both offence and defence
walls ... Lesser Impact but still in the mix

if all these things are in your favor I would be confused how a mathematical weighing could result in your match. It doesn't fit my experience . Usually I see certain things tilted one way and other advantages another way. One can dispute if they balance well enough I guess but to me it's resulted in some great matches .

two questions about your match that you see as completely in your favor ( assuming you still see it that way after considering the other three factors I mention )

1. Did your match take a long time ? Ie could the matchmaking process have widened its search ?
2.is there anything unusual about your clan like defenceless bases , th 9.5 , lots of low th3 types, big gaps in strength, ? I am trying to understand better what could lead to these matches . Because a computer should use math and weightings so it just doesn't make sense for all the advantages to be one way


laxtly .. I don't see perk 5 as that big an advantage ... It can he huge for clans with top players at th 8 or 9 but It matters not at all to clans with

a multiple max troops th10
b respect to attacks if they have an in war or outside the war th 10 contributing max troops
C respect to defence if there are enough max troops th10 to fill the defence cc

Also note that every th8 and below will get three starred anyway regardless of the defence cc troops so I am not seeing a huge advantage in war. It makes it a bit tougher , that's all . The biggest advantage for us is that it reduces the burden on certain players to fill cc.

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Well I wouldn't say player level is completely irrelevant. Unfortunately, it is heavily skewed by donations, but other than that it is a decent measure of rushed vs non-rushed bases.

TH levels themselves don't matter, but it is still a good measure of what kind of troops you can expect to get donated or how many cc troops a base can hold etc.. If the enemy only has 2 Th 10s (as in this case), then hey, chances are they won't be able to give max troops to all their companions since they are not a lvl 5 clan.

And yea lvl doesn't matter if you are a mainly th10/th9 clan, or even if u have a mix but with a high number of th10s (probably about 4 should be enough in a 40 man war), but if you only have like 2 th10s or less, especially if they themselves don't have max troops, then the clan lvl makes a big difference in my opinion.

I didn't bother giving you the full details; I'm not complaining; I'm just saying that in a normal situation this kind of mismatch is manageable, but with the clan lvl difference it will significantly enhance the mismatch since all our war ccs have max troops defending them, and all our offenses will be with max troops in cc, and they do make a big difference. Probably the biggest jump is with wizards, since th9 people don't have wiz 6 and even a th10 does not necessarily have them. But most people have wiz 5 from their th8 days. These become wiz 6 at clan lvl 5 which makes a significant difference.

That's my opinion at least. But again, there isn't enough data for me to conclusively say that matchmaking is worse, but so far that's what I'm feeling in the case of level mismatch. I will say, however, that when the level is the same, I feel that the new matchmaking is much better than before, regardless of how long it takes to match up.

At Gadzir .. I agree with all of that . We are saying the same thing about th and player levels . Oh one thing you didn't mention is that big gem users can have better bases and troops while being low level .. They ave less levels since they needed to raid less but it also has no impact on their bases defensive strength how they got there


our clan has 18 members and 3 are th10 with level 6 wizards and level5 gollems so I typically get those top troops when I need for attacks . That's why my comment was that it's great for burden sharing to get to level5 . In our clan though most offence requests from lower th are for hogs or ballons ( to supplement dragons against the lower th) which both our th9 have maxxed anyway

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Originally Posted by Fauna

I have th level 6 and all my defenses are maxed and so are my troops. Still working on my walls and collectors and in clan wars 2 times in a row now I've been matched up with someone who has a th level 7 with a barb king and maxed out defenses...tell me how that is fair? I do not have a rushed base what so ever either. So not all of us are stupid. Lol. I want a challenge but not something impossible which happens every time..other clan mates are fairly matched so what am I doing wrong???

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I'm assuming you are one of the lower town halls in your clan, so during war you are usually at the bottom. This is going to be tough for you no matter what. The reason being is that you don't have many options for attacking when you're at the bottom. This would happen regardless if you are in a clan where everyone has progressed farther than you.

For example, even a th8 in a clan full of th10's would be at the bottom of the war lineup. If they get matched up against another clan that only has th9's and th10's, then he has no choice but to attack a th9. Unless it is a really premature th9, he probably only has a shot at a two star. Wars do not favor those at the bottom.

Very Nice Thread. Everyone should read this before they post a mismatch complaint.

Good luck OP. May i also suggest beating your head against a wall, for similar returns in pain and satisfaction.

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Originally Posted by Superfinch30

Good luck OP. May i also suggest beating your head against a wall, for similar returns in pain and satisfaction.

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I don't expect satisfaction .. Just had some thoughts which people may accept or reject . I don't feel any pain about this but if people want to discuss matchmaking ( and one would be naive to think it cannot be improved at all ) it's good to talk about it sensibly without all the false mismatches

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Originally Posted by Flubber41

I don't expect satisfaction .. Just had some thoughts which people may accept or reject . I don't feel any pain about this but if people want to discuss matchmaking ( and one would be naive to think it cannot be improved at all ) it's good to talk about it sensibly without all the false mismatches

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Since the last big update we have consistently been matched against guys with low level walls but maxed everything else. Apparently there is a whole sect of population that just really likes the range of gold to pink walls. We just got sick of them all having much higher defenses and offenses than us (and of course they all seem to have someone donating maxed troops for attacks) and decided to just screw with wars. Here we were maxing our bases and enjoying ourselves in the game and wars. Not anymore. Now we just farm them. Don't care if people don't like it. It's what we are going to do unless they figure out a better matching system. Just a thought for some of those that are also sick of the mismatches. Before the last update the pendulum swung both ways and wars were fun. Not anymore. Now it's just a drudgery way to level up the clan.

I agree with much of what the OP says, but this doesn't negate the fact that some people DO know how to judge a mismatch (really not that hard for experienced players to do) and that they do happen more often than they should in my opinion.

Post update our mismatches have been fewer than before update where it was around a 17% crazy mismatch percentage in over 100 wars I took part in (yes, I not only know how to judge a match, but also keep track). Only had one crazy mismatch (in our favour) since the update. Perhaps it is because many of the TH9-10 have lower heroes in my clan and we are finally getting matched with folks that are more similar in that area?

Mismatches happen, but as OP stated, most people simply don't know how to judge them.