Legitimate war practice attacks

The idea:
-After a war finishes allow players to run attacks against the oppositions bases, these would be for no/minimal loot and would still cost you your army

The reason behind this idea:
-Currently there is no way to practice war attacks, multiplayer doesn't give you the same ability to scout, plan a base and execute your attack, revenge is way to unreliable due to shields.
-This would give the ability to practice war attacks without compromising war results
-This would give the ability to teach and show other members how you would have attacked a base

Problems/Comments:
-It costs too much: nothing forces you to practice and there is nowhere else in the game you can attack without losing your troops , it would be like practicing against goblin map but real bases
-Someone in the current war might have the same base:You could make it so you can only do these practice attacks before the next war starts, or only during prep day since many clans war back to back. This would also encourage people to build their own bases
-Exploitable using m0ds: I don't know much about what goes on but I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to code a way to attack and not lose troops in this situation allowing some people to practice faster/cheaper. I haven't thought of a solution for this but at least it doesn't get them extra loot/war wins.

I think of this as glorified goblin campaign practice and should allow people in a legitimate way to experiment with different army comps and also grow as players. Many are now too scared to try anything new in clan wars since if they fail they effect the whole clan.

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Another comment on practicing I realize there is some practicing you can do in multiplayer particularly with more generic army gowixx, etc but many of the top war attackers create a specific army for the base and it is this specilized thinking that can't be emulated in multiplayer.

Good idea - at least that way you can silence that lil voice that says "you should of did this" or "you should of used that" and have a chance to get some practice in. Not having to actually train your troops would
be a plus. Just pick what you want to use & go. In reality how much practice can it be waiting a hour or more for troops & spells to get done.

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Originally Posted by webbie

The idea:
-After a war finishes allow players to run attacks against the oppositions bases, these would be for no/minimal loot and would still cost you your army. I think no loot for a practice attack is good.

The reason behind this idea:
-Currently there is no way to practice war attacks, multiplayer doesn't give you the same ability to scout, plan a base and execute your attack, revenge is way to unreliable due to shields.
-This would give the ability to practice war attacks without compromising war results
-This would give the ability to teach and show other members how you would have attacked a base

Problems/Comments:
-It costs too much: nothing forces you to practice and there is nowhere else in the game you can attack without losing your troops , it would be like practicing against goblin map but real bases How about adding another Clan Perk so that you get refunded (the same way you get refunded for donating troops), 10% per clan level gained. At level 3 you would get 20% refunded and at level 10 you would get 90% back for a practice attack. I think you would have to limit practice attacks to something somewhat small, like 2 per war, to avoid people just going in and dropping troops for the refund instead of dismissing them.
-Someone in the current war might have the same base:You could make it so you can only do these practice attacks before the next war starts, or only during prep day since many clans war back to back. This would also encourage people to build their own bases If you want to practice do it before the next war starts, period, no overlap for being able to practice and the next clan war prep day.
-Exploitable using m0ds: I don't know much about what goes on but I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to code a way to attack and not lose troops in this situation allowing some people to practice faster/cheaper. I haven't thought of a solution for this but at least it doesn't get them extra loot/war wins. SCcan code it the same way as wars are currently coded, so people can't use mods to practice for free.

I think of this as glorified goblin campaign practice and should allow people in a legitimate way to experiment with different army comps and also grow as players. Many are now too scared to try anything new in clan wars since if they fail they effect the whole clan.

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Another comment on practicing I realize there is some practicing you can do in multiplayer particularly with more generic army gowixx, etc but many of the top war attackers create a specific army for the base and it is this specilized thinking that can't be emulated in multiplayer.

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I am against practice attacks, however, if they implement practice attacks, this would not be a terrible way to do it. I have some (hopefully) constructive thoughts on how to improve this though. They are in the quote in bold red.

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Originally Posted by itmustbeaustin

I am against practice attacks, however, if they implement practice attacks, this would not be a terrible way to do it. I have some (hopefully) constructive thoughts on how to improve this though. They are in the quote in bold red.

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Thanks for the constructive feedback.

A comment on why setting it up like the current war is wouldn't work is the following
-In a real war if you attack and back out you lose which is a big deal, but you don't lose any troops
-In a practice attack it doesn't matter if you lose you just want to hold on to your troops, so the programs can do whatever they did before (some sort of disconnect I think) in which you still would get to attack but no troops are actually deployed.

As for being against practice attacks, obviously that's your choice, I do disagree though. In most things you do there is a way to practice and improve, you put in more time/resources and you can make yourself better. This isn't an option in clan wars since you only get 2 attacks every 2 days maximum, this isn't really enough for people improve. A non exploitable war practice attack could be invaluable for players to get up to elite war levels. There is a range of natural talent in clash of clans, some people see bases better and can visualize and perform war attacks better. Practice would give an opportunity to those who may not do this as naturally but still want to be a top war performer.

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Originally Posted by WhyUmadBruh2015

Good idea - at least that way you can silence that lil voice that says "you should of did this" or "you should of used that" and have a chance to get some practice in. Not having to actually train your troops would
be a plus. Just pick what you want to use & go. In reality how much practice can it be waiting a hour or more for troops & spells to get done.

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The problem with the second part (just pick army comp and go) is it has no benefit for Supercell. Supercell makes money off making people wait. If people could just choose troops and attack it would probably detract from multiplayer, if people just care about war or are happy with their base and don't need loot there would be no reason to use multiplayer they would just do endless practice war attacks. By making it cost time and troops it benefits supercell and also prevents people from endlessly practicing on some common war bases. Yes you could still do it but its going to cost you.

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Originally Posted by webbie

Thanks for the constructive feedback.

A comment on why setting it up like the current war is wouldn't work is the following
-In a real war if you attack and back out you lose which is a big deal, but you don't lose any troops
-In a practice attack it doesn't matter if you lose you just want to hold on to your troops, so the programs can do whatever they did before (some sort of disconnect I think) in which you still would get to attack but no troops are actually deployed. But if they have it set up so once you attack you can't back out, and you only have 2 practices, than even if you use a disconnect program to not lose troops you have used one of your practices.

As for being against practice attacks, obviously that's your choice, I do disagree though. In most things you do there is a way to practice and improve, you put in more time/resources and you can make yourself better. This isn't an option in clan wars since you only get 2 attacks every 2 days maximum, this isn't really enough for people improve. A non exploitable war practice attack could be invaluable for players to get up to elite war levels. There is a range of natural talent in clash of clans, some people see bases better and can visualize and perform war attacks better. Practice would give an opportunity to those who may not do this as naturally but still want to be a top war performer.

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Responses in bold red.

I've thought of this idea as well. Doing it after a war makes the most sense from a competitive perspective. There have been quite a few times where we are prepping for a war and there are several enemy bases that I think look interesting and I'd like to take a shot at but the win is more important. Even if they make it a gemmed option, I think it would be used. I practice in multiplayer but a war base is certainly a different animal.

Nice idea but make it only one practice attack for each person after war.Elixir it dark elixir are used to train troops,but will be refunded if the attacker score 3 stars on the practice attack.At least,they don't get anything except experiences from one practice attack.