* Rebalancing required when players leave during war *

I've seen this many times, where one or more players leave during the war preparation stage or the war stage itself.
For each player that leaves, that team loses 3 battle stars. Just imagine what the remaining players think if this is before the war has even started i.e. during the preparation stage!!

When this happened the game becomes crippled. I've also seen many players uninstalling the game due to this.
The developers need to find some way of rebalancing things.

Possible solutions include redistributing the total attack and defence strengths amongst the remaining players, lowering the winning target by 3 stars for each player leaving the affected team, penalising the leaver in some way...and on this note...

PLEASE, provide more player stats that include things such as clan jump frequency so that clans have a better idea of players before accepting them.

Great game! room for improvement though!

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Originally Posted by mesab

I've seen this many times, where one or more players leave during the war preparation stage or the war stage itself.
For each player that leaves, that team loses 3 battle stars. Just imagine what the remaining players think if this is before the war has even started i.e. during the preparation stage!!

When this happened the game becomes crippled. I've also seen many players uninstalling the game due to this.
The developers need to find some way of rebalancing things.

Possible solutions include redistributing the total attack and defence strengths amongst the remaining players, lowering the winning target by 3 stars for each player leaving the affected team, penalising the leaver in some way...and on this note...

PLEASE, provide more player stats that include things such as clan jump frequency so that clans have a better idea of players before accepting them.

Great game! room for improvement though!

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Technically, since everyone has 2 attacks, you lose up to 6 stars. However, my group found a way to counter these people. We put our loyal people in wars. We don't put brand new people into wars no matter how many trophies they have. That way, we know they have no intentions of leaving us. And if they do, most of them will have the curtasy to not do it during a war period. Naturally, this doesn't always work, but it helps.

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Originally Posted by Theking8133

Technically, since everyone has 2 attacks, you lose up to 6 stars. However, my group found a way to counter these people. We put our loyal people in wars. We don't put brand new people into wars no matter how many trophies they have. That way, we know they have no intentions of leaving us. And if they do, most of them will have the curtasy to not do it during a war period. Naturally, this doesn't always work, but it helps.

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Ah yes...6 stars for each person leaving (ouch! worse than I thought!)
That's a good idea - using a wait period before allowing people into a war.
I still think frequent jumpers should be flagged up to a clan before letting them in.

Hi,

I think there should be a counter that increaes every time one has not made his two attacks but there would have been stars available at the players own or a weaker posisiton and the clan war was not won by that clan or if he has left the clan without having made both attacks (and did not come back to do his attacks).

No problem with unused attacks if the clan wins anyways or if the player would not have a chance to get a star.

I usually follow those players to inform their new clans about the "loyalty" of the player and they kick him most of the time and I do so for weeks. But even ones who are told this before behave like ♥♥♥♥ and just leave.

Supercell should really do something about this!

Regards,
Rothaut

Absolutely! that's at the very top of my list as a major and critical problem with this whole game. Clash of Clans! The concept is irreparably damaged by players like this. Add this to the top of new player stats that must always be visible.

shouldn't be allowed to leave during prep day, if this opt in and out option was a serious thing we could do this, but players can be dumped into war without wanting to be in war.

if opt out stopped players being selected for war then opt in could lock a player into a war, so he could not leave, i think we need this

Cant force them to attack or be cordial while imprisoned in your clan.

There is one sole reason why SC enjoys the extreme lucrative returns on this one game: purchasing gems.

In order to maximise this you need to reduce player frustration, frustration that can very easily be eased by employing a few simple additions; the game needs more player stats so that a better judgement can be made on who to allow into a clan.

Of course, down the line, you may well be considering an API / management utility of sorts to help.
Then again...

Rule No1:
SC WANT people to reconsider the 'purchase option' as often as they think they can get away with it. And, considering the current and expanding profits on this one game alone, they WILL NEVER address this effectively any time soon.

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Originally Posted by Theking8133

Technically, since everyone has 2 attacks, you lose up to 6 stars. However, my group found a way to counter these people. We put our loyal people in wars. We don't put brand new people into wars no matter how many trophies they have. That way, we know they have no intentions of leaving us. And if they do, most of them will have the curtasy to not do it during a war period. Naturally, this doesn't always work, but it helps.

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This logic is flawed. You dont automatically lose any stars when a player leaves. Technically, since everyone has two attacks you only need half your players to get full stars on an opponent.

This thread is essentially a repeat of a complaint that comes up daily, and my response may prove to be unpopular. But really, i view this as a clan problem, not something that supercell needs to fix. In the past 5 months in my current clan we have had only 2 members leave during war prep and we easily won both wars. They did not even register a blip on my problem radar.

Consider this. One of the jobs of the clan leaders is to recruit members and maintain a good roster. How are you recruiting? Are you just spamming in global? Have you gotten to know your new recruits before you allow them in war? Do you accept numerous new players before each war? Are you just trying to get to 50 members as quickly as possible?

If you raise the standard for what you expect from players and maybe require new recruits to opt out of the first 2 wars they are eligible for then you will weed out the bad players. Also, do not be in a race to get to 50. After 5 months of recruiting we now have 39. If you consider we started with 10 that means weve added less than 6 per month. Thats just over one player a week. This means we are typically only warring with one player we dont know. We can easily handle the absence of one player.

Another job of clan leaders is to make sure your clan is worth staying in. Is your clan fun? Do you attempt to connect with members in more ways than just requesting troops? Are you offering something to your members that they cant get in another clan?

Supercell cannot save you from bad players anymore than it can save individual players from bad clans. As the system works now, both clans and players have the freedom to be in complete control of enjoying their CoC experience. If you are having trouble with yours i recommend you find a better clan.

You raise fair points, and suggest a workable way around the issue of 'bad players'.

However, what about a much faster way of recognising the player who is set out to disrupt a clan - by providing more player stats so that Leaders, etc can spot desirable/undesirable traits - before they accept them into the clan?

Bad players can be easily defined e.g. frequency of clan jumping, clan-disruptive attacking during wars (i.e. wasting time at the start / deliberately keeping their strongest attack units out of the battle / etc).
SC already have all the tools they need to display this.

Rule2: like everything else, it's going to be the minority who upset the great majority, a majority who are your prime gem purchasers!