Ban Feature: So Leaders and Co Leaders can Permanently ban Clan Hoppers

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Originally Posted by iceageg

While I am not against having a small black list available to each clan I don't see why it should need to be more than 10 names or so long. We have one potty mouthed kid who we kicked out almost a year ago who simply applies to join so he can put vulgarity in the request. I see no value in using this technique as a hopper shield though. To help you understand why trying to punish/regulate hoppers is a bad idea and give you some information about how most of us identify and deal with them so they are no longer an issue I present the following . . . again.

No. This is a bad idea every time it is suggested because it will cause more, worse problems than "hoppers" already represent. Here is pretty much everything you need to know about dealing with hoppers. Both what will happen if you get your way and how everybody else has learned to deal with 99% of them quickly and easily.

First, SC has a long standing policy of not putting a negative statistic/badge/mark/rank/etc. of any kind on any players profile. They have a fairly strict no name-n-shame policy, as they should. You can accept those ideas as ruled out at face value.




Also, in an effort to not only help the OP understand the horrible repercussions of their idea, here is a list of many of the most common things successful clans do to prevent "D-bag hoppers" from being a nuisance (a nuisance, not a problem). Quoting myself from a recent thread again . . .



All of us clan leader types have experienced this and learned to preventing through our own leadership skills and clan rules. There is no need to institute a system that will punish the most social and giving players while making the lowest quality players more destructive.
In my time on the forum here I still have yet to see the answer to these simple questions. Why do you want to force somebody that you don't want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan?

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And iceagag states what so many of us wish we had the words for. Well done.

To sum their post up:
Learn how to manage your clan

Although, personally I would like a small blacklist, because it is annoying having one person always trying to join to lets say, leech, or troll.

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Originally Posted by XxDjPewdsxX

Very easily exploitable. Troll Co comes and bans everyone.

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Such low general knowledge:facepalm:

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Originally Posted by OzAudi

Stop trying to change the way people choose to play the game. You might like it but you just have to.learn to live with it.

Why should SC create a function that negatively affects players who currently play within the rules and is open to abuse ?

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So you're saying someone that comes in, spams a "GET FREE GEMS" ADVERT then leaves instantly and unable to get banned, is how it's meant to be? So those who open clans to get people in, are ♥♥♥♥ out of luck in other words?

We need to be able to at least ban people who have left, but left a message like spam, so they can't just keep coming back and spamming it...

Simply by clicking on their name in chat (even after they've left,) not having to go through the clan list (which takes too long to find sometimes.)

Profile
Visit
View Clan <--Why? we already have that button at the top of the chat. What idiot thought of this anyway. lol.
------------ <---Put a space here so we don't accidentally ban anyone.
Ban 24hrs
Ban Perma <-- Also make sure we get a confirmation to make sure we got the right person.

We make everyone a CO that is important to us and that we know so no OTHER Cos can kick them either. Leader has control over all COs. Ofc they can kick members, but in our clan, if you're a member, you're probably not a good one because you aren't an Elder or a CO. lol..

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Originally Posted by Logix

So you're saying someone that comes in, spams a "GET FREE GEMS" ADVERT then leaves instantly and unable to get banned, is how it's meant to be? So those who open clans to get people in, are ♥♥♥♥ out of luck in other words?

We need to be able to at least ban people who have left, but left a message like spam, so they can't just keep coming back and spamming it...

Simply by clicking on their name in chat (even after they've left,) not having to go through the clan list (which takes too long to find sometimes.)

Profile
Visit
View Clan <--Why? we already have that button at the top of the chat. What idiot thought of this anyway. lol.
------------ <---Put a space here so we don't accidentally ban anyone.
Ban 24hrs
Ban Perma <-- Also make sure we get a confirmation to make sure we got the right person.

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In this situation, you should be reporting that person in-game to SC. If you don‘t do that currently you aren’t helping the CoC community by using a system already in place. No need to changes.


You are proposing an unverifiable reputation system. A player can be labelled any way any time just by going into a clan.. Unfair...yes..but under your system it WILL happen. You have just help create a new menace. For the price of a new clan, anyone can trawl through global, recruit, kick with ban and message, rinse and repeat.

You already know there are people who abuse trusts in the game, why give them another outlet ?

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Originally Posted by Logix

We make everyone a CO that is important to us and that we know so no OTHER Cos can kick them either. Leader has control over all COs. Ofc they can kick members, but in our clan, if you're a member, you're probably not a good one because you aren't an Elder or a CO. lol..

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Is this proposal just for your clan ? I didn’t realise. I though it was for all clans and all clan management styles. including the ones that give auto co to any crystal or masters that join.

There seem to be two parts.

One is the desire to ban someone who just left.

The second is the desire to permanently ban someone.


I think both are a good idea, although not for hoppers, but for very rude people. Kids who like to say very obscene things, and like to continue to do so in requests to join.