Easier revenges

I have an idea to make revenging easier.

Once u click on the revenge button, if the player have a shield, tha game could tell us how long until it is gone.

If the player is online the game could tell us how long until he is automatically kicked off for playing too long.

The second feature is not really necessary, the first one is easily doable and really effective. If the shield is about to run out u can just wait and then press the revenge button again. If not, you wont waste ur time checking ur revenge list each 30 seconds.

Easier revenge? Get better people to revenge against. :smirk:

We've went over (most) of those before... like, yesterday?! :saywhat:

Man what a good idea hope supercell do it

This is a very convenient idea. But i disagree to the fact that the player is kicked off for playing too long..... Otherwise it's flawless

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Easier revenge? Get better people to revenge against. :smirk:

We've went over (most) of those before... like, yesterday?! :saywhat:

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Don't be such a critic -
And how is 'Get better people to revenge against' any manner of reply to the suggestion! ?

You do realize that making it easier for you to revenge people will also make it easier for them to revenge you?

Sorry, bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Shmegler

Don't be such a critic -
And how is 'Get better people to revenge against' any manner of reply to the suggestion! ?

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I've been through more than a few threads on this, including the discussion yesterday... somewhere. It can get depressing :(

"Get better people to revenge against" is making light of the fact that you don't get good targets, and that the Revenge system would work better if that part of the issue was tackled.

Think outside the box some... Which is better; put in some awkward patch-up on the revenge system, and still get ♥♥♥♥ for revenge targets; or work on the incentives that causes people to constantly attack lower level bases for loot, and get better revenge attack options?

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

I've been through more than a few threads on this, including the discussion yesterday... somewhere. It can get depressing :(

"Get better people to revenge against" is making light of the fact that you don't get good targets, and that the Revenge system would work better if that part of the issue was tackled.

Think outside the box some... Which is better; put in some awkward patch-up on the revenge system, and still get ♥♥♥♥ for revenge targets; or work on the incentives that causes people to constantly attack lower level bases for loot, and get better revenge attack options?

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Sorry I have hurt your sensible feelings. But if you get depressed by discussing revenge threads JUS DONT OPEN THEM.

BTW...I have never seen a suggestion involving letting the player know when the shield is going down...would you be so kind to point me that thread. Thank you and have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by lrbs1980

Sorry I have hurt your sensible feelings. But if you get depressed by discussing revenge threads JUS DONT OPEN THEM.

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:facepalm:
Then what's the point of trying to help when you cower away somewhere and do nothing.
Also, it is depressing when seeing people make the same mistakes, same ideas, same rants, same insults, and make no net progress; than it is talking about it, and trying to get people up to speed sooner before they say "@#$% this" and leave... when all they wanted to do was help and post an idea they thought was good.

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Originally Posted by lrbs1980

BTW...I have never seen a suggestion involving letting the player know when the shield is going down...would you be so kind to point me that thread. Thank you and have a nice day.

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How to possibly make the revenge button work?

17 hours old.. was like.. near top of search page (with search terms highlighted), or several pages into the subforum, or a browse through my recent posts.

So was it that hard?

Next time don't mix angry blunt comments with normaly civil edicate. Comes off as hollow and insulting. Might prevent a few flame wars that way :p

Not advocating easier revenges but quality of life and less button pushing and scrolling:

after you click a base to study it and see if how much loot they have by checking storages and doing a little quick math in your head, and checking their CC, and studying defenses (scouting), then you have to leave and re-scroll thru your list again and see if they have a shield or online, how about an attack now or revenge button right there on the screen similar to CW, so you can revenge right from the scouting base screen?

That to me would be easy and fast and make a decent quality of life improvement.

Just a thought?

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

:facepalm:
Then what's the point of trying to help when you cower away somewhere and do nothing.
Also, it is depressing when seeing people make the same mistakes, same ideas, same rants, same insults, and make no net progress; than it is talking about it, and trying to get people up to speed sooner before they say "@#$% this" and leave... when all they wanted to do was help and post an idea they thought was good.



How to possibly make the revenge button work?

17 hours old.. was like.. near top of search page (with search terms highlighted), or several pages into the subforum, or a browse through my recent posts.

So was it that hard?

Next time don't mix angry blunt comments with normaly civil edicate. Comes off as hollow and insulting. Might prevent a few flame wars that way :p

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OH! Congratz! U know sarcasm! But the thread actually is not about the same idea (letting u know when the player shield will go down) and instead ask for the revenge button to override the shield. So, u r smart enough to make sarcastic comentary but, unfortunately, not quite so to know the difference between those two features.

BTW, wonder my surprise when I started to read threads on this subforum just to notice that every comment u make (so many of them) is about critizing the OP.

Well! Cheer for the haters that know how to use a emoticon!:facepalm:

I like the idea, it would be helpful and save time.

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Originally Posted by lrbs1980

OH! Congratz! U know sarcasm! But the thread actually is not about the same idea (letting u know when the player shield will go down) and instead ask for the revenge button to override the shield. So, u r smart enough to make sarcastic comentary but, unfortunately, not quite so to know the difference between those two features.

BTW, wonder my surprise when I started to read threads on this subforum just to notice that every comment u make (so many of them) is about critizing the OP.

Well! Cheer for the haters that know how to use a emoticon!:facepalm:

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Are you for real? I was showing the thread I was talking on last and made a reference to here, hinting that this general topic on revenge attacks gets talk about with repeated ideas a lot, because obviously people don't check what has been posted before. I didn't say anything about it being on the exact same topic. :rolleyes:

And yes, I'm modestly good at sarcasm when I want to be... but I wasn't sarcastic in my last post. Ironicly, you are the one that is oh so smart and brilliant with sarcasm. :smirk: (Spoiler: look the meaning of 'sarcasm')

And yes, Cheer, you silly hater. :p Glad you know how to put some emotions into your text with emotes. :)

and... cutting this convo off here. Still getting nowhere like this. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by JohnnyPC

You do realize that making it easier for you to revenge people will also make it easier for them to revenge you?

Sorry, bad idea.

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That's the gamble.. & the fun. Tis no victimless crime - like punching someone in the dark (Nelson) to humiliate them & steal their gold.
I'd love to be able to have my Revenge turn into a Feud of multiple attacks with higher stakes... hmm you've given me an idea - gonna start a new thread

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Originally Posted by Shmegler

That's the gamble.. & the fun. Tis no victimless crime - like punching someone in the dark (Nelson) to humiliate them & steal their gold.
I'd love to be able to have my Revenge turn into a Feud of multiple attacks with higher stakes... hmm you've given me an idea - gonna start a new thread

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Sorry, I'd have to agree that giving too much access or advantage to revenge attackers can render someone's raiding futile. There is fun risk, and not-fun risk. The reward for the risk has to be high enough to make it worth the gamble. That is why you see so many 'farming bases', because the vast majority of people have basicly said that being raided often is not an acceptable risk to take for the rewards you might get. Higher up in Town Hall levels, that changes, but before you even get close to that, you have to wait and work for months (unless you gem), all the while being practically preyed on as soon as you are open to attack.

The type of attackers most people get just messes up the revenge system, and there is no easy 'fix' to make the system work with the poor revenge target choices. If the attack options improve, by people aren't so put off by being raided and not farm off of weaker bases, behaviors change (and my theory says that will help solve a lot of issues), the kind of people attacking you changes, and then you can actually enjoy the kind of fun risk you are envisioning.

Right now, much of CoC's gameplay for defence are regular insults to a player's efforts. Untill you are near max Town Hall level, you are always some varying amount of steps behind what is needed to defend yourself, and when you get close to getting a grip on things, you upgrade your Town Hall, and suddenly become many steps behind again, because you are prime targets to any prepared player with a village that is one Town Hall level higher than your freshly leveled up Town Hall village.

The only amount of real, regular, revenge attack fun I had was when I was TH7, with the arguably overpowered dragons they get at that point. I was able to hit back at most TH8s, except of course for late stage TH8s (and higher). Now, not so much. I've got to make a more complex, and usually DE heavy, army just to hope to do the same to TH9s. I have yet to really get enough practice with attacking higher level bases to the same degree I had when TH7.

So that is why I think the Revenge System isn't broken, and say it's the kind of revenge targets it gets that are broken.