Walls and elixir

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May 12th, 2015
mattjthebeast

Walls and elixir

I am currently a max th8, besides walls. Obviously the hardest part of this game is getting the walls maxed and being able to use Elixir to up them will make it easier. I get the reason of having it be more available, but all I'm seeing out there is th8s like me with completely full storages of elixir and no one wants it. Why???? It's useless anymore! I have at least 5 clan mates (we only have 20 people) who have the same situation as me, just dying to get rid of this elixir, and putting it into walls would help a lot.

If u don't want all levels to have this available, at least bring it down to lev 8 walls, we need it the most.
May 12th, 2015
Karll

Agreed, I think it should be brought down to level 6 walls, that's where upgrading walls starts to get difficult. Thats the game of life though, Supercell gets money from people buying gems, people buy gems to get gold, people buy gold to upgrade walls. So SC's wall profit would get at least split in half if they did this. So this thread is basically useless
May 12th, 2015
LukeNQ

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Originally Posted by mattjthebeast

I am currently a max th8, besides walls. Obviously the hardest part of this game is getting the walls maxed and being able to use Elixir to up them will make it easier. I get the reason of having it be more available, but all I'm seeing out there is th8 like me with completely full storages of elixir and no one wants it. Why???? It's useless anymore! I have at least 5 clan mates (we only have 20 people) who have the same situation as me, just dying to get rid of this elixir, and putting it into walls would help a lot.

If u don't want all levels to have this available, at least bring it down to lev 8 walls, we need it the most.

and the second elixir could be dumped by all th8s it would be. Completely draining the economy from the most vital resource. (Troop creation, spells and upgrades)

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Originally Posted by Karll

Agreed, I think it should be brought down to level 6 walls, that's where upgrading walls starts to get difficult.

cute, level 6 walls difficult.
May 12th, 2015
JohnnyPC

The update that originally introduced walls-for-elixir literally killed the entire CoC economy. In the next update when they upped it to only 1ME walls or higher, the economy re-stabilized. SC will not be changing it back.

Also - please search before posting a new thread. You would have found one of the 100's of threads on this topic with tons of people responding with the same thing I said above.
May 12th, 2015
ahaNate

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Originally Posted by Karll

Agreed, I think it should be brought down to level 6 walls, that's where upgrading walls starts to get difficult. Thats the game of life though, Supercell gets money from people buying gems, people buy gems to get gold, people buy gold to upgrade walls. So SC's wall profit would get at least split in half if they did this. So this thread is basically useless

level 6 walls difficult? lmaoooo
May 12th, 2015
ropepirate

Cutting and pasting my reply from the last 'we need elixir for walls at TH8' thread.

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Originally Posted by ropepirate

Okay I'll put this simply for you and the others that come along.

As it stands you can only upgrade to level 9+ walls with elixir. At this level the cost to upgrade a single segment of wall is 1 million of either gold or elixir. If a player has approximately 1 million elixir collected then the amount that is available to raid means it is cost effective for a player 1 TH level above them to raid. They should gain more elixir than they used to train the army.

For a level 8 wall the cost per segment is only 500k to upgrade. A player who has less than 500k of resources collected then they do not have enough loot for other players to raid. At this point because it costs more to train the army than the players are winning back from a successful raid then the amount of elixir in circulation plummets, which is what happened.

>1 million elixir = loot raided usually more than army training cost
<500 thousand elixir = loot raided usually less than army training cost
May 12th, 2015
ColonelAwesome

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Originally Posted by ropepirate

Cutting and pasting my reply from the last 'we need elixir for walls at TH8' thread.

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Originally Posted by ropepirate

Okay I'll put this simply for you and the others that come along.

As it stands you can only upgrade to level 9+ walls with elixir. At this level the cost to upgrade a single segment of wall is 1 million of either gold or elixir. If a player has approximately 1 million elixir collected then the amount that is available to raid means it is cost effective for a player 1 TH level above them to raid. They should gain more elixir than they used to train the army.

For a level 8 wall the cost per segment is only 500k to upgrade. A player who has less than 500k of resources collected then they do not have enough loot for other players to raid. At this point because it costs more to train the army than the players are winning back from a successful raid then the amount of elixir in circulation plummets, which is what happened.

> 1 million elixir = loot raided usually more than army training cost
< 500 thousand elixir = loot raided usually less than army training cost

That made no sense. if somebody has 500k elixir, then there isn't much to raid. If you add elixir wall upgrades, that person will have 0 elixir, reducing the available elixir by all. According to that logic, having 0 elixir to raid is better for the economy than 500k. Also, your post seems to be negating itself, and doesn't seem to favor either side of the argument.
May 12th, 2015
ropepirate

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

That made no sense. if somebody has 500k elixir, then there isn't much to raid. If you add elixir wall upgrades, that person will have 0 elixir, reducing the available elixir by all. According to that logic, having 0 elixir to raid is better for the economy than 500k. Also, your post seems to be negating itself, and doesn't seem to favor either side of the argument.

It isn't about the amount used when upgrading the wall but the amount that has to be stored prior to upgrading the wall.

499,999 elixir stored means a storage raid of approximately 50k. Which even using a cheap army means that the TH9 hitting the TH8 would lose out on elixir for the raid, not including league bonus.

999,999 elixir stored is a storage raid of approximately 100k. Thus a TH10 raiding a TH 9 with a cheapish army would still, even excluding league bonus, gain more elixir than they used to carry out the raid.

If the TH8s used all their elixir over 500k in upgrading their walls then TH9s raiding them would make an overall loss in elixir every raid which means that they would have no elixir for TH10s to raid.