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Before the last update, my village would probably get raided once or twice per hour, obviously depending on if I was actively raiding, however if I was actively raiding I was probably getting raided 1-4 times per hour, with a majority of them being th snipers.

After this update, every time I close the app I will get attacked within a minute guaranteed. There has not been a time since the last update where I have not been attacked within at least 3 minutes. This has resulted in the last hour and a half of actively playing, losing over 5k dark elixir. So you can see how this makes me want to throw my phone against the wall.

For awhile I did not think much of it, however now it is getting ridiculous and I would like to know if there is an answer to the unbelievable spike in my village coming up in matchmaking, or if its supercell's problem.

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Originally Posted by sirn

Before the last update, my village would probably get raided once or twice per hour, obviously depending on if I was actively raiding, however if I was actively raiding I was probably getting raided 1-4 times per hour, with a majority of them being th snipers.

After this update, every time I close the app I will get attacked within a minute guaranteed. There has not been a time since the last update where I have not been attacked within at least 3 minutes. This has resulted in the last hour and a half of actively playing, losing over 5k dark elixir. So you can see how this makes me want to throw my phone against the wall.

For awhile I did not think much of it, however now it is getting ridiculous and I would like to know if there is an answer to the unbelievable spike in my village coming up in matchmaking, or if its supercell's problem.

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From what I've heard, the update included a new searching system

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Originally Posted by Battice

From what I've heard, the update included a new searching system

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do you know what that entails?

Nobody raids me in Master 3..for like 30 minutes..thats good..
If i switch to farming (Th outside) my shield is up in "second" good job with match making!

Yes, because more people are finding you. Trophy range is not important anymore... When you log off closer th are finding you, and if your base isn't well prepared they will hit you hard. If you are getting attacked repeatedly, your base design means they aren't getting your TH or 40%, in which case you should have a farming layout with your th outside of your resources are so exposed they are hitting them and running. It's a bad strategy to have your resources full too. Even if saving up, your best bet is to raid most of what you need on the day your builder is coming up free.

This update is simply separating the men from the boys, the casual players and those who play regular. More importantly, those who sit on collectors from those who attack to get better and power up, which is after all the name of the game. This update has the intention of pushing people to their th-appropriate league and working to stay up. I've heard people moan about how they can't be bothered or don't have the time to play a lot. Bottom line, if you want to fight and win and get better with a challenge, you'll play clash and get better. If you want to level up by turning up and just clicking sparkly 'collect' buttons....... Go play FarmVille or something instead.

Would you expect to win gold ahead of Usain Bolt just cos you'd bought a pair of running shoes and turned up at the stadium? No! You still have to train to get there. You'll either get there cos you're good enough or quit cos you aren't. That's what's called challenge.... Something people seem to have forgotten is what a video game is supposed to be.

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Yes, because more people are finding you. Trophy range is not important anymore... When you log off closer th are finding you, and if your base isn't well prepared they will hit you hard. If you are getting attacked repeatedly, your base design means they aren't getting your TH or 40%, in which case you should have a farming layout with your th outside of your resources are so exposed they are hitting them and running. It's a bad strategy to have your resources full too. Even if saving up, your best bet is to raid most of what you need on the day your builder is coming up free.

This update is simply separating the men from the boys, the casual players and those who play regular. More importantly, those who sit on collectors from those who attack to get better and power up, which is after all the name of the game. This update has the intention of pushing people to their th-appropriate league and working to stay up. I've heard people moan about how they can't be bothered or don't have the time to play a lot. Bottom line, if you want to fight and win and get better with a challenge, you'll play clash and get better. If you want to level up by turning up and just clicking sparkly 'collect' buttons....... Go play FarmVille or something instead.

Would you expect to win gold ahead of Usain Bolt just cos you'd bought a pair of running shoes and turned up at the stadium? No! You still have to train to get there. You'll either get there cos you're good enough or quit cos you aren't. That's what's called challenge.... Something people seem to have forgotten is what a video game is supposed to be.

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yah i understand that supercell really did that new system to make the game more challenging but the problem is their 1 trophy victory its making the game loose its attacking purpose (to obtain 3 stars) because its useless to aim for 3 stars if you win just a trophy its like they're encouraging players to switch from being attackers to snipers this just sucks especially when you're in masters league that many players attack you

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Yes, because more people are finding you. Trophy range is not important anymore... When you log off closer th are finding you, and if your base isn't well prepared they will hit you hard. If you are getting attacked repeatedly, your base design means they aren't getting your TH or 40%, in which case you should have a farming layout with your th outside of your resources are so exposed they are hitting them and running. It's a bad strategy to have your resources full too. Even if saving up, your best bet is to raid most of what you need on the day your builder is coming up free.

This update is simply separating the men from the boys, the casual players and those who play regular. More importantly, those who sit on collectors from those who attack to get better and power up, which is after all the name of the game. This update has the intention of pushing people to their th-appropriate league and working to stay up. I've heard people moan about how they can't be bothered or don't have the time to play a lot. Bottom line, if you want to fight and win and get better with a challenge, you'll play clash and get better. If you want to level up by turning up and just clicking sparkly 'collect' buttons....... Go play FarmVille or something instead.

Would you expect to win gold ahead of Usain Bolt just cos you'd bought a pair of running shoes and turned up at the stadium? No! You still have to train to get there. You'll either get there cos you're good enough or quit cos you aren't. That's what's called challenge.... Something people seem to have forgotten is what a video game is supposed to be.

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yah i understand that supercell really did that new system to make the game more challenging but the problem is their 1 trophy victory its making the game loose its attacking purpose (to obtain 3 stars) because its useless to aim for 3 stars if you win just a trophy its like they're encouraging players to switch from being attackers to snipers this just sucks especially when you're in masters league that many players attack you.

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Originally Posted by Battice

From what I've heard, the update included a new searching system

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Yes and is totally a nightmare, doing farming is not that easy now, and when i get disconnected, 3 times i get attacked !! I really don't like the matchmaking is really hard now to get resources and when you get some you are attacked and loose it, really not fair ! :thumbsdown: In many wars or attacking, the game kicks you out of the game, i'm glad they are doing maintenance hope we get this as it was !!:thumbsup:

Farming is MUCH easier now, as farming focus is RAIDING FAR MORE THAN YOU STAND TO LOSE IN ATTACKS. If you are ending up in negative, you aren't getting shields, aren't raiding in blocks and likely have a poor base design with your th not easy enough to take. That's not farming. Farming is about raiding plenty and accounting for the losses you will inevitably take. What you are doing is 'grazing' - eating up the few morsels you're fed in your collectors and a few lazy raids and relying on the farmhand (Supercell) to ensure you're safe!

Oh and Soularis, I kinda hear that. The trophy system itself needs revising. But as for the point of the game? It's arguable that they have changed the focus to be more about the wars than the leagues, which would explain why they've not addressed the trophy system at all really since the game began.

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Farming is MUCH easier now, as farming focus is RAIDING FAR MORE THAN YOU STAND TO LOSE IN ATTACKS. If you are ending up in negative, you aren't getting shields, aren't raiding in blocks and likely have a poor base design with your th not easy enough to take. That's not farming. Farming is about raiding plenty and accounting for the losses you will inevitably take. What you are doing is 'grazing' - eating up the few morsels you're fed in your collectors and a few lazy raids and relying on the farmhand (Supercell) to ensure you're safe!

Oh and Soularis, I kinda hear that. The trophy system itself needs revising. But as for the point of the game? It's arguable that they have changed the focus to be more about the wars than the leagues, which would explain why they've not addressed the trophy system at all really since the game began.

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youre and idiot. im in silver 2 and the only people that attack me are th9s that raid me. ive lost 8k de in a day. I have a farming base, so stop assuming you know what youre talking about.

Why would I say it if I'm not doing it myself? I raid more than I get hit. If you're losing 8k de a day, you aren't raiding in blocks, since the cap is 2500 de per attack. If you've been attacked for 8000, you' e either had full collectors too, or been attacked at least four times for the max amount. And that's assuming you have well over 40k in your de storage, foyou to lose the full cap amount after every raid.

So logically, that means you must not be raiding more de than you're losing, not raiding in big enough blocks, and keeping your storages full..... Asking to be hit. If you're not being sniped at all, you can't have an exposed enough th or your de store protected well enough.

So if it's stupid to use game rule facts to deduce this,then yes I must be stupid. I'll go back to doing awesome as ive always done, and improving my game the 'stupid' way..... 😐

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Why would I say it if I'm not doing it myself? I raid more than I get hit. If you're losing 8k de a day, you aren't raiding in blocks, since the cap is 2500 de per attack. If you've been attacked for 8000, you' e either had full collectors too, or been attacked at least four times for the max amount. And that's assuming you have well over 40k in your de storage, foyou to lose the full cap amount after every raid.

So logically, that means you must not be raiding more de than you're losing, not raiding in big enough blocks, and keeping your storages full..... Asking to be hit. If you're not being sniped at all, you can't have an exposed enough th or your de store protected well enough.

So if it's stupid to use game rule facts to deduce this,then yes I must be stupid. I'll go back to doing awesome as ive always done, and improving my game the 'stupid' way..... ��

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I wish I could show you my th away from everything else in base, or a base that was designed by a top player. The ONLY way I make profit is if I boost my barracks. So yes raiding in a straight block is fine for raiding.

However I shouldn't have to be afraid of closing the app to check a text message because im afraid of losing my bank while saving up for an upgrade or moving to a new th because of Supercell having a broken matchmaking system.

If your solution to a phone app game is "sit on your phone all day" then you probably shouldn't go into the video game design business.

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Originally Posted by sirn

If your solution to a phone app game is "sit on your phone all day" then you probably shouldn't go into the video game design business.

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The irony of this statement amuses me. If only you knew me....

Either way, it's refreshing they are breaking the mould and making a game have some challenge and depth enough to warrant playing it more. The sea of shovelware casual games littered with ads to support them should be enough for casual players, without holding this one back from standing out as a more serious mobile game.

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

The irony of this statement amuses me. If only you knew me....

Either way, it's refreshing they are breaking the mould and making a game have some challenge and depth enough to warrant playing it more. The sea of shovelware casual games littered with ads to support them should be enough for casual players, without holding this one back from standing out as a more serious mobile game.

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Im all for playing it more to separate the good from the great, however this update constitutes you on your phone literally all day if you want to save up.

Nah, just an hour or two. Rather than be counter productive... Here's a rundown on a typical day for me:

- Get up in the morning, BAM army already trained overnight. Logging on, collect about 300-400k from collectors and about 2000 de from drills.
- Shield is approaching the end, sitting on morning bog visit or eating breakfast, raid once for at least 300k, zap 1000 de and steal a little more, with other army queued. After searching and raiding, next army ready about 10 minutes later.
- Second raid, 300k, steal 200 de, then set army and lightning cooking, and log off
- ignore all day. Worst case scenario, get hit for 500k. More often than not, a snipe and maybe zap too, giving me a shield all day.
- get home at night, do my own thing. About 9pm, bang a movie or TV shows on and turn on the iPad.
- collect about 300-400k, 2000 de and do first raid to assess loot, also asking clan mates first if loot is ok right now. Take 200k on first raid.
- either leave it on while I watch TV for an hour, or if loot is good, boost for a 2-hour run. Likely do this once a week.
- worst case scenario, big zap takes 1000 de, and after 4 BAM raids in an hour averaging 250k profit each, 1 million resources.
- bedtime, set up army and lightning overnight, log off and worst case scenario as earlier, 500k loss

Total time investment - 90 minutes
Total take (worst case scenario) - 2.2 million resources, 6200 de.
Total loss (worst case scenario) - 1 million resources and 2000 de.
Total profit - 1.1 million and 4000 de

On good days when it's a simple snipe, that's 2 million profit for just 90 minutes of your time. On boost sessions I can make 3-7 million on good days, and raid up to 10k de, sat in front of a TV before bed. I can still watch and still talk to my wife or do other things.

Yes you might be unluckier than some, but if you play with a routine and a discipline and your base isn't inviting attack and can put up a good defence, and you make sure it's only attacked once to get your shield, no one should have any problems.

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Originally Posted by sirn

youre and idiot. im in silver 2 and the only people that attack me are th9s that raid me. ive lost 8k de in a day. I have a farming base, so stop assuming you know what youre talking about.

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Supercell have altered the matchmaking to prioritise your base being found by other players within 1 TH level of you so if you are a TH8 or 9 it will mean that you are likely to get matched with similar level players. If you have any amount of loot in your storages i am afraid that these players you are now getting matched up with will usually be more than capable of taking the vast majority of it!

It would be useful to know exactly what level TH you are and roughly how well you are upgraded to give better advice, so if you could give some details or even better post a screenshot of your base i might be able to give some more tailored advice.

I have been hearing from players in my clan that this last week silver 1 and 2 are the place to be for farming and in fact we have even lifted our clans normal restrictions that players stay above gold 3 to farm so that they can take advantage of this opportunity. From the replays i have seen it would seem to me that the players who are really suffering from this new matchmaking are players who have upgraded TH prematurely and are now being found by other high level TH players rather than the low level THs who would normally find them first in the bronze and silver lges and give them a cheap shield

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Originally Posted by Rowcoy

Supercell have altered the matchmaking to prioritise your base being found by other players within 1 TH level of you so if you are a TH8 or 9 it will mean that you are likely to get matched with similar level players. If you have any amount of loot in your storages i am afraid that these players you are now getting matched up with will usually be more than capable of taking the vast majority of it!

It would be useful to know exactly what level TH you are and roughly how well you are upgraded to give better advice, so if you could give some details or even better post a screenshot of your base i might be able to give some more tailored advice.

I have been hearing from players in my clan that this last week silver 1 and 2 are the place to be for farming and in fact we have even lifted our clans normal restrictions that players stay above gold 3 to farm so that they can take advantage of this opportunity. From the replays i have seen it would seem to me that the players who are really suffering from this new matchmaking are players who have upgraded TH prematurely and are now being found by other high level TH players rather than the low level THs who would normally find them first in the bronze and silver lges and give them a cheap shield

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cant get a screen shot, but I have 207/225 lvl 8 walls. all defenses maxed out. all storages separated, however close to inside. th8. I sit in silver 2 and get pounded by players.

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Nah, just an hour or two. Rather than be counter productive... Here's a rundown on a typical day for me:

- Get up in the morning, BAM army already trained overnight. Logging on, collect about 300-400k from collectors and about 2000 de from drills.
- Shield is approaching the end, sitting on morning bog visit or eating breakfast, raid once for at least 300k, zap 1000 de and steal a little more, with other army queued. After searching and raiding, next army ready about 10 minutes later.
- Second raid, 300k, steal 200 de, then set army and lightning cooking, and log off
- ignore all day. Worst case scenario, get hit for 500k. More often than not, a snipe and maybe zap too, giving me a shield all day.
- get home at night, do my own thing. About 9pm, bang a movie or TV shows on and turn on the iPad.
- collect about 300-400k, 2000 de and do first raid to assess loot, also asking clan mates first if loot is ok right now. Take 200k on first raid.
- either leave it on while I watch TV for an hour, or if loot is good, boost for a 2-hour run. Likely do this once a week.
- worst case scenario, big zap takes 1000 de, and after 4 BAM raids in an hour averaging 250k profit each, 1 million resources.
- bedtime, set up army and lightning overnight, log off and worst case scenario as earlier, 500k loss

Total time investment - 90 minutes
Total take (worst case scenario) - 2.2 million resources, 6200 de.
Total loss (worst case scenario) - 1 million resources and 2000 de.
Total profit - 1.1 million and 4000 de

On good days when it's a simple snipe, that's 2 million profit for just 90 minutes of your time. On boost sessions I can make 3-7 million on good days, and raid up to 10k de, sat in front of a TV before bed. I can still watch and still talk to my wife or do other things.

Yes you might be unluckier than some, but if you play with a routine and a discipline and your base isn't inviting attack and can put up a good defence, and you make sure it's only attacked once to get your shield, no one should have any problems.

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after this update to matchmaking please tell me what league you sit in where you can get off the game and avoid getting attacked within 30 seconds.

Gold 2, as I have been sat in since I turned th7 last June. I drift up and down to gold 1/3 and have had spells in crystal for extra de when the situation demands. Pushed to Masters just for the gem bonus just a few weeks ago, but back in gold2 now.

Once the chaos and panic settles down and it forces players to adopt a more 'th-appropriate' league, I will go there. Right now I'm guessing on a scale basis that this will be somewhere in crystal for a th9, and top crystal/masters for th10

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Gold 2, as I have been sat in since I turned th7 last June. I drift up and down to gold 1/3 and have had spells in crystal for extra de when the situation demands. Pushed to Masters just for the gem bonus just a few weeks ago, but back in gold2 now.

Once the chaos and panic settles down and it forces players to adopt a more 'th-appropriate' league, I will go there. Right now I'm guessing on a scale basis that this will be somewhere in crystal for a th9, and top crystal/masters for th10

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So where would you suggest q max th8 or new th9 go if they didn't want to get raided every 30-120 seconds?

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Originally Posted by sirn

So where would you suggest q max th8 or new th9 go if they didn't want to get raided every 30-120 seconds?

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Crystal 3. You can sit at 2000 trophies and get sniped all day. I broke my shield 3 times in an hour in Silver/Gold, and I was slaughtered by TH10s.

When I was in Crystal, I would break it all day and get sniped by 4-5 barbs and archers. You will catch people trying to push to Crystal/Masters for League All-star achievement. You won't see that in Silver or Gold.

My TH is under the walls.
Look how many attacks in 1:30
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Originally Posted by fernandocjr

My TH is under the walls.
Look how many attacks in 1:30
http://s22.postimg.org/fltdop5ip/asd.jpg

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Therefore put your TH outside.

Sirn, all of my accounts are in gold; my sub accounts in gold 3. I've only just discovered a decent layout for them myself and yes they do get hit, but never, ever more than once cos the th is hit every time even if they do attempt to go for my loot. if your th is outside and fully unguarded (no traps! That really annoys people into full raiding you!), there's barely anyone out there who wouldn't take your town hall first, giving you that shield. The caps ensure you can never lose too much on one raid, so all left for a player to do is find an adequate defence layout that gives the lowest loss possible.

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Yes, because more people are finding you. Trophy range is not important anymore... When you log off closer th are finding you, and if your base isn't well prepared they will hit you hard. If you are getting attacked repeatedly, your base design means they aren't getting your TH or 40%, in which case you should have a farming layout with your th outside of your resources are so exposed they are hitting them and running. It's a bad strategy to have your resources full too. Even if saving up, your best bet is to raid most of what you need on the day your builder is coming up free.

This update is simply separating the men from the boys, the casual players and those who play regular. More importantly, those who sit on collectors from those who attack to get better and power up, which is after all the name of the game. This update has the intention of pushing people to their th-appropriate league and working to stay up. I've heard people moan about how they can't be bothered or don't have the time to play a lot. Bottom line, if you want to fight and win and get better with a challenge, you'll play clash and get better. If you want to level up by turning up and just clicking sparkly 'collect' buttons....... Go play FarmVille or something instead.

Would you expect to win gold ahead of Usain Bolt just cos you'd bought a pair of running shoes and turned up at the stadium? No! You still have to train to get there. You'll either get there cos you're good enough or quit cos you aren't. That's what's called challenge.... Something people seem to have forgotten is what a video game is supposed to be.

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It is separating the people who had max TH9 PRIOR to the update from the rest of the people who hadnt.

Ignore Turnarcades hes a particularly dense fella who considers himself a pro, despite barch raiding lower players n complaining that wars are rigged haha.

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Originally Posted by sirn

youre and idiot.

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That is one incredibly successful way to start things off to make people believe that you're the intelligent one.

Also, please refer to my signature.

Here it is, plain and simple.

If you are below a max th9 before the update you WILL get annihilated.

Putting your TH out or changing your layout won't protect you from loonion, barch or giant healer raids if they are a TH above you.

If you have max defenses and walls lvl 9+ this update is great, you wont be touched.

Turnarcades will tell you he had to struggle (hes particularly stupid) because he did it under the old system where a TH9 would occasionally be attacked..... now hes not a new th9 or max th8 and he cant understand why people are complaining... as i said hes particularly slow lol

Basically you have 3 choices.....be more upgraded already (lol), never log off or quit.

Thanks friend ��

I have never said wars are rigged, I have stated several times to others asking, that the war matchmaking doesn't factor in troops, only defences. In those same threads I also said that it doesn't matter to me, as I work hard to overcome stronger opponents. If you couldn't understand that, that's not my problem. But please don't put words in my mouth.

And everything you just quoted of me is true... Which carries to both my sub accounts, which are much lower, and still prospering after the update. So if I am stupid or incorrect, then it must work to be, cos my th8 bases aren't suffering either. Neither are the rest of my clan, who have commented how much better it is too, and are mostly th7-th8's......Strange that..... ��

Name calling because you can't accept change won't improve your game, or your butthurt, haters. If you do see those as your only 3 options, do the world a solid, and choose number 3 eh? Leave the game to the good players.

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Thanks friend 👆

I have never said wars are rigged, I have stated several times to others asking, that the war matchmaking doesn't factor in troops, only defences. In those same threads I also said that it doesn't matter to me, as I work hard to overcome stronger opponents.

And everything you just quoted of me is true... Which carries to both my sub accounts, which are much lower, and still prospering after the update.

Name calling because you can't accept change won't improve your game, or your butthurt, haters.

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You have replied to every post with "put your TH out or play more or change base design"

My favourite is "th9 is hard i had to struggle as well months ago"

Yet you seem completely incapable of understanding that

1. This game is a mobile phone app not some hardcore gaming platform

2. The reason this game succeeds f2p is because of its casual nature and how millions of players with varying circumstances can play

3. That you DID NOT level your th9 under this update.... so your experiences are irrelevant and if you thought it sucked then its 10x worse now

4. That less than 10% of the players are max th9 and above. an update that benefits them at the expense of others will inevitably lead to a decline in players that is BAD for the game not good.

5. My comments about your intelligene are based on reading your comments and how you seem to have no ability to learn anything beyond your rinse and repeat comments above

1) that's not for you to judge, it's in the eyes of the players. Considering the number that do play, I'd say that makes it a serious game.... More online players than Call of Duty? I guess PS4 games aren't serious either then. Oh and let's not forget 3DS, Vita, and awesome Android gaming devices like the NV Shield....

2) it succeeds in other games cos the ftp model still depends on ads.... Of which Clash contains none. Their revenue comes from the players, and truth is casual players don't stump up much in the way of funds. Shareware introduced this back in the day, and a friend of mine named John Romero and many of my buddies who still work in the gaming industry will testify to the model and revenues; getting a better idea of how I'm able to form my opinions now?

3) im CURRENTLY levelling up an early th8 AND a brand new th9 as my sub accounts.... Which you have just overlooked conveniently. pkaying as I always have, I'm not experiencing any of this, and neither are the 40 other members of my clan.... So yes I have DIRECT basis for comparison, and current experience.

4) Please don't quote figures you just plucked out of the air. You have no idea what percentage of people are there, or at any th level. Even if that were true, knowing the ftp business model as I do, it's safe to suggest that that small percentage generates the biggest part of their profits. Of course they have to keep them sweet. It's called capitalism.

5) The rinse and repeat are because the same, single answer will resolve it... If I'm doing it, then I know in my own practice it works. It's rinse and repeat because of the reams and reams of new posts from the same casual players with the same excuses, and hence the same solution applies and will sort their woes. My comments are from folks inability or stubborn unwillingness to try what is suggested or accept the change.... They'd rather sit in this hug box and complain til someone makes it easier for them. If a solution is offered and you flat out refuse to do it...then you're beyond hope. It's like punching yourself in the face repeatedly and complaining your face hurts to someone else.

Any more for any more? ��

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1) that's not for you to judge, it's in the eyes of the players. Considering the number that do play, I'd say that makes it a serious game.... More online players than Call of Duty? I guess PS4 games aren't serious either then. Oh and let's not forget 3DS, Vita, and awesome Android gaming devices like the NV Shield....

2) it succeeds in other games cos the ftp model still depends on ads.... Of which Clash contains none. Their revenue comes from the players, and truth is casual players don't stump up much in the way of funds. Shareware introduced this back in the day, and a friend of mine named John Romero and many of my buddies who still work in the gaming industry will testify to the model and revenues; getting a better idea of how I'm able to form my opinions now?

3) im CURRENTLY levelling up an early th8 AND a brand new th9 as my sub accounts.... Which you have just overlooked conveniently. pkaying as I always have, I'm not experiencing any of this, and neither are the 40 other members of my clan.... So yes I have DIRECT basis for comparison, and current experience.

4) Please don't quote figures you just plucked out of the air. You have no idea what percentage of people are there, or at any th level. Even if that were true, knowing the ftp business model as I do, it's safe to suggest that that small percentage generates the biggest part of their profits. Of course they have to keep them sweet. It's called capitalism.

5) The rinse and repeat are because the same, single answer will resolve it... If I'm doing it, then I know in my own practice it works. It's rinse and repeat because of the reams and reams of new posts from the same casual players with the same excuses, and hence the same solution applies and will sort their woes. My comments are from folks inability or stubborn unwillingness to try what is suggested or accept the change.... They'd rather sit in this hug box and complain til someone makes it easier for them. If a solution is offered and you flat out refuse to do it...then you're beyond hope. It's like punching yourself in the face repeatedly and complaining your face hurts to someone else.

Any more for any more? ��

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This can only be said to you ONE more time.

TH8s and lower ARE BEING annihilatdd REGARDLESS of what they do. Now if you're able to play in blocks CONGRATULATIONS.

This game succeeds BECAUSE of the casual nature. You can go and read any one of a number of reports on the success of the game BUT you and your buddies DIDNT come up with the formula for the success of CoC and your complete ignorance as to the nature of the game or its reliance on casual players means that this will once again be useless.


TO SUMMARISE IF CASUAL PLAYERS LEAVE.... HARDCORE PLAYERS LEAVE......GAME DIES......

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Originally Posted by Broxogar

This can only be said to you ONE more time.

TH8s and lower ARE BEING annihilatdd REGARDLESS of what they do. Now if you're able to play in blocks CONGRATULATIONS.

This game succeeds BECAUSE of the casual nature. You can go and read any one of a number of reports on the success of the game BUT you and your buddies DIDNT come up with the formula for the success of CoC and your complete ignorance as to the nature of the game or its reliance on casual players means that this will once again be useless.


TO SUMMARISE IF CASUAL PLAYERS LEAVE.... HARDCORE PLAYERS LEAVE......GAME DIES......

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The game is totally dead.

I'm a mid TH8 at 1300 cups. I get "annihilatedd" once every three attacks. I raid twice in the morning, one right after getting up and one while eating breakfast. I go to school, hopefully get sniped (or fail raid above 40%), come back home, do the same thing, do homework, do same thing.

If you have work you can simply raid twice in the morning, raid twice at night. Even the screenshots posted earlier didn't have a defense log full of "annihilation". I'm always found for about 650k loot, but I mostly get sniped.

If you get "annihilatedd" every attack show me your defense log.

If you don't like the anti-casual gameplay near the top, then you can quit. No one is stopping you. Its not like it happens on almost every single game.

the new update is by far the most ridiculous update EVER.. been offline for less than a minute then somebody will raid your base already.. no wonder so many people are making their trophies fall.. this update only benefit the OLD player (which are much stronger than people like me who only played for a couple of months). this is not a game anymore that you can play on your free time.. At least adjust the availability time of the towns to be available to be raided. It sucks when you raid then got disconnected because of uncontrollable situation then when you come back you have lost so many resources greater than the one you've raided.

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Originally Posted by Broxogar

This game succeeds BECAUSE of the casual nature.
TO SUMMARISE IF CASUAL PLAYERS LEAVE.... HARDCORE PLAYERS LEAVE......GAME DIES......

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Im gonna say it one more time too.

Pure casual games that don't reward skilled gameplay and rely on advertising to infinite numbers of casual players who come and go to generate their revenue would die. Clash of Clans won't. If Casual players left the dedicated gamers would stay, play harder and pay. Those at the very top doing tournaments and the like have it hardest of all, and they are still dumping money on gems like it's going out of fashion.

The game has evolved and for every one person that rage quits, there's no doubt more will join or come back. Those that have never known any different will accept the game for what it is and persevere if they like it, or find another game that suits their gameplay habits. As has been the case in the entire history of video games. Ever played an online fps? An online fighting game? When you start and for a long time, you get your butt handed to you over and over and over again. But players persevere, get better and continue, and the game carries on.

Online Mobile games have evolved. It's not just phones, Tablets are now dominant household gaming devices and as such, games are being taken more seriously, and will evolve too. If you don't keep up you will get left behind, or be left playing stale casual games that were created and stay in existence for your playing habits. They will continue to be unskilled, and reward you for just turning up infrequently, as they always have, supported by ad revenue.

Clash isn't one of them. It's evolved into a real game with challenge and required time and effort to proceed. More will come and take up the challenge, many will quit. Neither will cuss each other out, and Clash will go on, until a bigger challenge comes along.

If you guys want to quit cos you can't roll with the punches, then quit. Don't come on a forum to announce it. You won't be missed, and you will be replaced. If Supercell doubted this, they'd never have made the changes. Prior to this, since the game began there were far far more requests to improve the loot from the gamers who play hard and spend more, and they've addressed it, because they know which side their bread is buttered.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, and be careful not to bump into the 10 people coming in to take your place.

All this time spent on here complaining, which could have been spent getting better at the game instead. Oh the irony..... 😆😆😆😆😆

Elixir walls got removed, partially. Hopefully they will remove this soon. End the killing of casual players.

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Im gonna say it one more time too.

Pure casual games that don't reward skilled gameplay and rely on advertising to infinite numbers of casual players who come and go to generate their revenue would die. Clash of Clans won't. If Casual players left the dedicated gamers would stay, play harder and pay. Those at the very top doing tournaments and the like have it hardest of all, and they are still dumping money on gems like it's going out of fashion.

The game has evolved and for every one person that rage quits, there's no doubt more will join or come back. Those that have never known any different will accept the game for what it is and persevere if they like it, or find another game that suits their gameplay habits. As has been the case in the entire history of video games. Ever played an online fps? An online fighting game? When you start and for a long time, you get your butt handed to you over and over and over again. But players persevere, get better and continue, and the game carries on.

Online Mobile games have evolved. It's not just phones, Tablets are now dominant household gaming devices and as such, games are being taken more seriously, and will evolve too. If you don't keep up you will get left behind, or be left playing stale casual games that were created and stay in existence for your playing habits. They will continue to be unskilled, and reward you for just turning up infrequently, as they always have, supported by ad revenue.

Clash isn't one of them. It's evolved into a real game with challenge and required time and effort to proceed. More will come and take up the challenge, many will quit. Neither will cuss each other out, and Clash will go on, until a bigger challenge comes along.

If you guys want to quit cos you can't roll with the punches, then quit. Don't come on a forum to announce it. You won't be missed, and you will be replaced. If Supercell doubted this, they'd never have made the changes. Prior to this, since the game began there were far far more requests to improve the loot from the gamers who play hard and spend more, and they've addressed it, because they know which side their bread is buttered.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, and be careful not to bump into the 10 people coming in to take your place.

All this time spent on here complaining, which could have been spent getting better at the game instead. Oh the irony..... 😆😆😆😆😆

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It's a shame you are too stupid to see the writing on the wall :)

If you think 10 "hardcore" people are coming in to replace every casual one leaving then you are sorely mistaken. Though I can see that you are "stuck" in your way of thinking. I do find it a little laughable that you consider this a hardcore game considering your style of gameplay, but it's also clear that you're the kind of person who thinks that time played = better player :P

In any case I'd venture a bet that you aren't very skilled at this game, wars are the closest thing to a true test of skill in this game and you can't barch your way through them :)

Either you're right about Clash of Clan's playerbase and business model (doubt it) and they do nothing, OR you're wrong and people complaining here are doing more to save this game than you're petulant views on hardcore** gaming haha.

More accusations because of denial? Great way to cover being a bad player dude.... When you catch the other thread with evidence of how one of my bases are going, well, I guess you'll deny that too.

Troll FAIL. Oh and when all is said and done, nothing will make your game any better. Quit whining, or quit the game. Done.

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

Clash isn't one of them. It's evolved into a real game with challenge and required time and effort to proceed. More will come and take up the challenge, many will quit. Neither will cuss each other out, and Clash will go on, until a bigger challenge comes along.

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Let me get this clear, Clash is the biggest challenge in your life?

No.... Boy people sure do have a habit of putting words in your mouth here.

It means when another game comes along that presents a new VIDEOGAMING challenge, people will turn to it.

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Originally Posted by Turnarcades

No.... Boy people sure do have a habit of putting words in your mouth here.

It means when another game comes along that presents a new VIDEOGAMING challenge, people will turn to it.

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This is a mobile phone app...yes more and more gaming will be done on mobile phones, but by definition the appeal of a mobile phone app is the pick up and play quality. To be able to access the phone at numerous times throughout the day for quick games.

This update has removed that, it would be a small percentage of players who treat a mobile phone app as seriously as a PC or Console game where they sit down for hours on end. This game relies on enormous numbers, reducing them in any way shape or form will ultimately be the end of the game.

You might think hardcore players will work harder, but they won't. Where is the incentive to pay money for and compete in a game where only a few thousand people even care?