derby...how can something going so good be made to go so wrong?

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Originally Posted by LadyJEM5

Boat fan here too!

In every derby before I've always done at least two 11 or 12 boat tasks...this derby, the best that's came down the river for me so far has been one for 9. I honestly feel that I've done nothing for my NH even tho there's a mining & a top town task behind me, & a board full of sorry tasks ahead.

If anyone sees those big boats, send some my way too!

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Wow, at least we have seen a few of the 11 and 12 point boat tasks. Not many in the hood like doing them, though there are a handful that are taking them just because they are high points.

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Originally Posted by Haystacker

I love boats! I would do nothing but boat tasks all derby long (like Besta, wow!) but I'm broke :(, got the resources in the barn to do them but don't have the diamonds in the bank to speed them up :p

May I borrow some? Pay u back with interests :D

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Would that I could, lol.

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Originally Posted by Bestajunior

Hi d2

✋ Boats here. 66 for derby alone. 2,160 points. Yes I bought a 6th task because I like doing them. Lowest point task was 330 for 10 boats and highest was 390 for 12. A HUGE thank you to all my nh & friends for helping me get them done! Thank You all!!

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:eek: Wowee, you get the boat task award, lol. I've done two 11 and two 12 boat tasks and thought that was a lot, lol. :o :p I actually normally don't do boats any more except for events and now the derby. I am just competitive enough to want to do that 390 point task, lol. I also buy the 6th and for the same reason.

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Originally Posted by farmerClem

My neighbourhood has won every derby. It is not that I do not care about winning. We won last week as well, and i did not change my playing style - except for harvesting tasks. Since all neighbourhoods are facing the same problem with few high point tasks, we have a level playing field. If the harvesting tasks were corrected, I do not think people would mind the present point system as much. The present harvesting tasks, with their unrealistic time restraints, are fuelling most of the problems we are having in my neighbourhood.

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Yes, we are all faced with the same tweak. So the playing field is supposedly even. But is it really? My hoodie and I are in a NH of 2 and are level 100+ so we have the resources to do the tough, high point tasks. But take this into consideration, we've been competing with teams between levels 30-80 since the derby was introduced. Aren't those lower leveled teams severely at a disadvantage since those easy 300+ pt harvesting tasks were taken away? There's no way they can compete with teams that have huge barns and tackle boxes, unless of course they hire tom and speed up boats.

I did 3 mining tasks and 2 fishing tasks last derby. This derby will probably be 3 fishing and 2 mining. Would be nice to have some pre-tweaked, high bacon and milk task sprinkled in just to switch up the mundane process. If not for me, for the lower leveled players.

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Originally Posted by Honeywell

I appreciate the sentiment expressed here, but to be quite honest, it will not work for me.

Real life is full of unreasonable demands, sudden unpleasantness, and loads of just small yuck that I have no control over. No complaints, that's being an adult, but sometimes a body needs recovery time and a way to feel like they're moving forward in some small way.

Hay Day used to be a relaxing diversion I could retreat into, particularly after a tough day, and excel at with the tap of a finger. As stupid as it may sound, some days the biggest accomplishment I could point to as an achievement in the game, and that was an important de-stressor for me.

The changes in the derby have brought all of those stresses into the game, complete with unreasonable demands on my time and resources, unfair compensation for work done, AND the feeling of letting down my friends if I don't unreasonably overextend and exhaust myself. It is not the same to opt out of like trucks or boats.

This used to be a relaxing farming game that I could feel accomplished doing in my leisure time, even with the derby. The task revamping ruined that. Without overextending myself, I can now only be mediocre to poor. No more feeling of accomplishment, no more de-stressing.

For myself, if the tasks remain painful and NOT FUN, I will simply stop playing altogether. That is not a threat or a flounce, it is simply a fact, and it is because of why I choose to play in the first place.

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Oh the bolded could never be true. :( But I understand feeling that way.

I think I hear what you're saying. Part of Hay Day's appeal is that it lets you use strategy and your intelligence to be excellent. And you are excellent. So, when the game throws these wrenches into the derby that make meeting former standards near impossible - due to a warped point system and impractical time limits - then that really sucks. The frustration is 100% understandable. I felt that same frustration too.

You're awesome, Honeywell, and I support whatever way you have to resolve this: in a way that feels right and comfortable to you. :)

I cam here to say how much i dislike the changes made to the derby but so many have already said what i feel no use repeating it all over again...will wait for the derby to go back to what it was but from seeing so many throwing money at this i doubt it will go back to what it was.

It is a shame, the derby was a great addition to the game.

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Originally Posted by CanBrad

I cam here to say how much i dislike the changes made to the derby but so many have already said what i feel no use repeating it all over again...will wait for the derby to go back to what it was but from seeing so many throwing money at this i doubt it will go back to what it was.

It is a shame, the derby was a great addition to the game.

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Dear CanBrad,

I applaud you for joining the forum, and your voice and words ARE important. You are important!
SC listens to its players. The derby as originally designed was wonderful, and for you to log in and say what you liked, and then you dislike what has been changed about it - that is hugely important.:thumbsup:

Welcome to the forum!

I am struggling with this derby. I still have two tasks left but my NH is not getting good high point tasks. I have completed a fishing for 310 and two towns for 286. The only high point on my board now is the boat for 360. But last derby I really suffered doing a 12 boat for 390...by suffering I mean I used diamonds. So, needless to say, I do not want to pick up the one on my board now but also do no want to trash it in case nothing else pops up.

I have already trashed several low ones since this morning and have not been able to pick up a new task...and I am holding on farming since I am not sure what is coming.

Not sure how/what I am feeling...

Ambivalent HayDayer....Edit: ....no, I should describe myself as Ambivalent Derbyer since I know I love HD overall.

I have an idea.

There are a few thousand people that use the forums

There are a few hundred possible slightly over a million that play hayday.

As such getting 2 forum teams against each other let alone 15 is not likely to happen.

Therefore we will always have an advantage over the uneducated masses. (see the things you didn't know you didn't know thread)

I hope that now that trophies are tracked that soon we will be paired up based on our previous performance. put the teams with 10 trophies against teams with 10 trophies and newbie/lesser able teams against other low performers.

Then as the cream begins to rise to the top it can be further and further refined.

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Originally Posted by Tiaxotrax

I have an idea.

There are a few thousand people that use the forums

There are a few hundred possible slightly over a million that play hayday.

As such getting 2 forum teams against each other let alone 15 is not likely to happen.

Therefore we will always have an advantage over the uneducated masses. (see the things you didn't know you didn't know thread)

I hope that now that trophies are tracked that soon we will be paired up based on our previous performance. put the teams with 10 trophies against teams with 10 trophies and newbie/lesser able teams against other low performers.

Then as the cream begins to rise to the top it can be further and further refined.

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Hi,

Random is preferable in many ways. A match up based on past performance will pretty quickly mean that some hoods never win even though they play at a very competitive level. It is like the Peter Principle, I think, wherein you keep getting promoted in your job until you reach a level that you are not quite good enough to do, and immediately begin to fail A bit demotivational. All you need for a good competitive derby is two or three of the 15 horses going at about the same pace for a while. What we don't need (going by feedback here) is even more competition and pressure.

Perhaps, eventually, Supercell would consider running special turbo derbies for the turbo hoods to challenge each other! That would be fun. But please no more pressure. We will forget how to play the actual farm! :) :)

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Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay

Oh the bolded could never be true. :( But I understand feeling that way.

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LTMP, I appreciate that as my neighborhood leader, you're trying to reassure me that the NH wouldn't hate me if I did lower level tasks. We have a great NH, and I already know that. It is not the problem.

The problem is the game makers creating an environment in which it is no longer possible for me to play the game in a way that I enjoy and find relaxing.

Additionally, it is a very big problem that Supercell has gone non-responsive, and that it is not the first time this has happened.

I do not agree with the idea floating around the forum that just because the company had a big release in another game that it is fine to abandon Hay Day until someone just feels like showing up again. Supercell is not a friend who just got busy and we are being patient with them. They are a company, and they scheduled these release dates long ahead of time and were aware of the resources available to them. How would folks feel if your plumber or electrician behaved this way? Or if your grocer just got busy with another task and didn't bother to open the store for a while?

And they're not a tiny operation, either. If you go look at the top grossing games on iOS, at any given time, Boom Beach, Clash of Clans, and Hay Day will be in the top 15. They have plenty of resources, and are choosing to not allocate them here.

Please note, this is not a hit at the mods. They are clearly understaffed and that is not their fault. Again, the company chose to create the situation, and I say this from a place of experience. I spent many years as a project manager for a Fortune 50 company. This is benign neglect.

Overall, it is creating a game environment that is in no way enjoyable, and I think it is valid to express that. Whether or not an individual player decides to stick this out is up to them. For myself, I need evidence that this won't just keep repeating and that valid concerns will be addressed quickly and transparently.

I wouldn't stay in a bad relationship in real life, and I certainly won't stay in one where I'm paying to play! (Yep, I'm one of those folks who buys diamonds.)

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Originally Posted by pitchfork

Hi,

Random is preferable in many ways. A match up based on past performance will pretty quickly mean that some hoods never win even though they play at a very competitive level. It is like the Peter Principle, I think, wherein you keep getting promoted in your job until you reach a level that you are not quite good enough to do, and immediately begin to fail A bit demotivational. All you need for a good competitive derby is two or three of the 15 horses going at about the same pace for a while. What we don't need (going by feedback here) is even more competition and pressure.

Perhaps, eventually, Supercell would consider running special turbo derbies for the turbo hoods to challenge each other! That would be fun. But please no more pressure. We will forget how to play the actual farm! :) :)

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Good point. yeah that's the problem with looking at it from one side you don't think of the other. I was thinking of all the squeaky wheels that complain about blowing comp out of the water. Yeah put that way the more laid back version would be more acceptable.