To Those that are looking for [Post-Air Sweep] Bases

I'm starting to see a trend here for people asking for "post-air sweep bases" and this is only within a few hours of release.

Please be patient. This is a lay-out changing weapon and base builders would either just insert the air sweep some where, and boom, layout done. But I'm sure what you guys are asking for are "bases that can use air sweep well". Base builders would need to completely redesign a base with air sweep's coverage into account. You think it's that easy to build a working, functional base that incorporates a new building that's is completely different from other 'damage dealing bases' in a few hours? For farm bases it might be alittle easier but for war/trophy bases some people could just use it as a tool, while others can re do a base to take advantage of this new building. Either way, it will take ALOT of time into account.

Give it about 2-3 days MINIMUM and new bases designs will start to pop up [Base Design 101] section. Might not be the best there is to come, but they'll work. Or give it about a week or two and the good ones will be the ones that survive/rated the most and then you can then grab all you want.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHavoc

As a current TH8 base designer, this rocks the design fundamentals of every base I've done to date.

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I agree with GeneralHavoc on this also as a TH9 War Base designer, all the fundamentals that we learned have been shaken due to this introduction. Going to need time to figure how to use/abuse this little machine.

Thank you :)


Edit: I see alot of old farming bases/pre-existing bases ask "where should the air sweeper be now?" What I said above still applies ^.

Wise words from a wise man. PREACH!

its a nerf for laloon...the hogs nerf was invincible at the beginning but now everyone is using goho and the nerf is not existing in the same way...the laloon nerf is really tough but im sure that after a month it will loose its maze...waiting for your ideas about this nerf :smirk:

As always a great well thought out response. I for one can't wait for your new bases. It feels like a huge nerf to dragons at th7 and 8 and killing Lavaloon at th9 and 10. Walls now count more in matchmaking too. Clan wars just got harder. I feel that it will lead to larger mismatches. It seems that 2 start is all that is possible on a well designed base regardless of the attackers skill or troop level. With that in mind, most top clans are going to have to shift back to an anti-2 star bases. Spreading them out and using the clock against that 2nd star. :D

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Originally Posted by BDSweed

As always a great well thought out response. I for one can't wait for your new bases. It feels like a huge nerf to dragons at th7 and 8 and killing Lavaloon at th9 and 10. Walls now count more in matchmaking too. Clan wars just got harder. I feel that it will lead to larger mismatches. It seems that 2 start is all that is possible on a well designed base regardless of the attackers skill or troop level. With that in mind, most top clans are going to have to shift back to an anti-2 star bases. Spreading them out and using the clock against that 2nd star. :D

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I can absolutely guarantee you that, at least in the world of TH 9s, no top war clans will be reverting to anti-2 star bases. This does very little to change the fact that every TH 9 base will get 3 starred in war. It'll take a bit of adjustment and maybe an extra try on certain bases here and there, but players will figure it out, just as they've done in the past. :)

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Originally Posted by avojta5866

I can absolutely guarantee you that, at least in the world of TH 9s, no top war clans will be reverting to anti-2 star bases. This does very little to change the fact that every TH 9 base will get 3 starred in war. It'll take a bit of adjustment and maybe an extra try on certain bases here and there, but players will figure it out, just as they've done in the past. :)

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Agreed. People aren't going to switch to anti 2 bases but rather, it will actually make it so that it's more asymmetrically skewered.

We will only see after some wars how they work and integrating them in th9 bases will be hard.
For th8 bases it should not be so hard to integrate them because it is very clear from where the attacker has to attack to be successful.
Before the update you would have aligned your ads at 12, 4 and 8 o clock. Now I would do 12, 3 and 6 o clock and place the air sweeper at 9 o clock pointing into the center because the attacker will always target 2 ads and the air sweeper will push them back in both cases, but maybe someone else will come up with a better idea like pushing the dragons to the side so they go around the base. This depends on how strong the air sweeper is at lower levels. At lvl6 he will be strong enough to counter the dragons directly but at lvl1or 2 I think this will not be enough.

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Originally Posted by akiyume

I'm starting to see a trend here for people asking for "post-air sweep bases" and this is only within a few hours of release.

Please be patient. This is a lay-out changing weapon and base builders would either just insert the air sweep some where, and boom, layout done. But I'm sure what you guys are asking for are "bases that can use air sweep well". Base builders would need to completely redesign a base with air sweep's coverage into account. You think it's that easy to build a working, functional base that incorporates a new building that's is completely different from other 'damage dealing bases' in a few hours? For farm bases it might be alittle easier but for war/trophy bases some people could just use it as a tool, while others can re do a base to take advantage of this new building. Either way, it will take ALOT of time into account.

Give it about 2-3 days MINIMUM and new bases designs will start to pop up [Base Design 101] section. Might not be the best there is to come, but they'll work. Or give it about a week or two and the good ones will be the ones that survive/rated the most and then you can then grab all you want.




I agree with GeneralHavoc on this also as a TH9 War Base designer, all the fundamentals that we learned have been shaken due to this introduction. Going to need time to figure how to use/abuse this little machine.

Thank you :)


Edit: I see alot of old farming bases/pre-existing bases ask "where should the air sweeper be now?" What I said above still applies ^.

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I will be looking forward to the post-air sweep layouts. For a while now, I've used "The Nerd" base layout that was posted in January by mungoflago (which has been quite effective, I might add :thumbsup:). I actually haven't been on the forums since switching over to that base a couple of months ago. As soon as the sweeper update came about, I thought, "Oh gosh... Now I'll have to change my whole layout again. :facepalm: Time to go back to the forums to see what's up."
I'm really hoping that an update for "The Nerd" will be made available for the new air sweeper. If not, I'm always willing to try something different. I'll be checking back more often now. Thanks a ton! :D

I would be surprised if it doesnt take a week + to start figuring it all out.. it takes 2 days to set up a war and you only get a few (maybe just 1 or 0 if ground attack) sample to see how effective it was. in order to be a good base it needs to be tried and tested!, that means wars and time

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Originally Posted by andrgin

We will only see after some wars how they work and integrating them in th9 bases will be hard.
For th8 bases it should not be so hard to integrate them because it is very clear from where the attacker has to attack to be successful.
Before the update you would have aligned your ads at 12, 4 and 8 o clock. Now I would do 12, 3 and 6 o clock and place the air sweeper at 9 o clock pointing into the center because the attacker will always target 2 ads and the air sweeper will push them back in both cases, but maybe someone else will come up with a better idea like pushing the dragons to the side so they go around the base. This depends on how strong the air sweeper is at lower levels. At lvl6 he will be strong enough to counter the dragons directly but at lvl1or 2 I think this will not be enough.

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I'll keep that in mind. ;)