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May 1st, 2015
itoslemma

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Originally Posted by polouri

Dude are you serious? Think about what you are saying. Whats the likelyhood of someone living off of bonus loot alone? When he could, as a higher level, easily take your th and your loot and still get the bonus loot. Which th10 in crystal 1 or masters (th snipes in upper masters n champs almost none existant) wants to next a million years for one guy smart enough to put his th outside up there so he can snipe alone and get bonus loot, unless ofcourse, you have no loot. Farming base are for people who have alot of loot they are trying to accumulate. So most likely you will look delicious. The only thing that saved us was farming and hoping that some lower level who could not take us find us and get that easy win. But thats out the door. Im in silver 3 as a new th9 (dont even have xbows yet) and i was just murdered by a maxed 145lvl th10. I swore i was in masters3 rather than silver3. This ♥♥♥♥ about protecting lower levels. Who is protecting me??!!! A DAMN LVL145 TH10. oh damn now they all gonna come down here looking for farming 8s and 9s

I am 100% serious. Think it through. Before the update it WAS the case the snipes in masters and champs were almost nonexistent. Lower THs were sniping bases that we otherwise could farm. That is no longer the case. There is no need to next a million times. I find myself actually skipping semi dead bases now.

Who is protecting you?? SuperCell is protecting you with the new matchmaking. TH10s will now only rarely see TH8s.
May 1st, 2015
itoslemma

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Originally Posted by Godlee

I haven't rushed, have a balanced base (it's maxed!) and my thought process identified a cost and time effective method of developing it further - which currently seems to be significantly affected by this update. Everyone is entitled to play their way, however the only playing in my clan with a positive view of this update is a totally rushed TH10.

To to use an analogy, when playing football (soccer) you have leagues to differentiate ability, adopt strategies of playing the long ball, use wingers, counter attack, aggression and physicality... It's up to the coach, but this latest update removes the decision from the coach and is forcing everyone to play with the same style, whilst letting the rich kids pay to progress.

Another analogy would be to compare your street to a league...the people on your street are a mixture of TH levels, however your prevented from communicating with those who are a different TH to you and instead forced to communicate with people on the next street or even district just because they're the same.

Give it some time as trophies adjust. Before you know it, your street will be more filled with people of similar THs.
May 1st, 2015
Str8h82fld

Thank you SC!!! I love the updated MM.

I have two accounts. 1 -TH 9 and 1-TH 8. TH9 is in G2-G1 and TH8 is in G3-S1. I don't care about trophies... I am were I am.

I also max everything before I move up.

I would say I next about 50% less on my TH9 account because I don't have to skip all these TH7 n TH 6 that I would never attack anyway. My TH8 I get bout 25% less nexting

How the game was designed to be played and how the game is played have taking many different directions.

When you first DL the game. It told you to protect your TH. Someone figured out that if I leave my TH I get a free shield. This lead to tons of folks doing that. That lead to TH sniping, which means you could take a TH 5 to champions league. That was never suppose to be how the game was designed to be played.

"There is no elevator to success, you must take the stairs"

Nobody wants to have to work at something anymore. Everybody wants the quickest, shortest way to the top.

I think this update was just a patch to get the game back to the way it was designed to be played. We really need a CoC 2.0 and many things need to be revamped. But this was a good start.

I just hope that not to many of the "rushers" or "TH 8.5" quit. I need an ez loot base every once in awhile 😎
May 1st, 2015
Gendel

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Originally Posted by jbn12380

I am a nearly maxed TH9 and farm in silver and gold leagues. There I attacked TH8 predominantly with Giants, Archers, and Goblins. My Lvl10 Hero's were glorious. It did take a few next's to find the loot but that was no problem. In the past few months I was looting 200K Gold + 200K Elixir +between 500 to 1,500 DE per raid, raids were easy, my strategy flawless. I could go hours logging on every 20 minutes to make a quick attack without anyone being able to take my loot. Once a week I got attacked for greater than 300K cumulative loot lost. Dirty!

That strategy is sadly trashed now...

At all levels there are predatory TH10s lying in wait for loaded TH9s. Now they can find me with ease. I have dropped all the way to Bronze and still cannot log off for 20 minutes without losing 400K in loot and 2K in DE. I almost always offer max loot b/c if my storages aren't full I fill em. I do not know yet where I will go but it is becoming clear that I must find where the majority of TH9 exist in the trophy range and try to blend in there.

My expectations for attacking every 20 minutes now have to be tempered. That will be an uphill battle as each gain I make will get offset by the amounts I will be raided by TH10s. It is a NEW game now and I need more than ever to find time to raid with barracks boosted for 2 straight hours to make progress. There is hope because I will soon be a TH10 where I can be the unrivaled hunter but this MM is horrible for players who found ultimate success in efficiently playing this game.

There is a lot of work to be done at TH8 and TH9 to max them out...thats going to be brutal to do as compared to the way i accomplished it...folks will quit on it, SC will lose dedicated players that would have had to be playing at least 9 months.

This game is exceedingly frustrating when you get smashed by stronger players...there used to be trophy levels where any TH level could find a sweet spot, but now that is gone, its a free for all with this new MM system.

From a business standpoint, SC should feel the effects in the following ways: There will be no need for spending gems on additional builders b/c you can't keep them busy...It seems ridiculous to me that anyone would spend the absurd amount of gems on buying upgrades, i can't see how that would increase their profits...BUT we will need to gem the barracks, aren't those the cheapest use of gems???...the game will most certainly fall if they raised the price of gemming barracks on us....

So what you're saying is that although you want to be able to attack other Lower level players with ease and fill your storages up, you don't want larger players to be able to attack you. And you have spent the time to put this post together, just to prove what? That you're a really bad sport:smirk:
May 1st, 2015
IIZII

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Originally Posted by ConanTheTrollarian

The only people complaining it seems are the ones who rushed, have an unbalanced base, or just plain didn't think things through.

For me, and most players I've talked to this new match making is awesome.

We get to go against people similar to us and we don't have to press next through do..he b's who are th6 trying to go into masters or even crystal where they have no business being. They snipe thereby giving shields to people we could farm.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Stay where you belong and there won't be any problems.

It's like the clown th10's who use to go down to low gold and complained when they got zapped. But they didn't mind steam rolling weaker players.

All of the nonsense SC try's spewing about fairness they finally did something to make things fair.

That's the good side. Have you consider the players experiences? Even you're in the right league for your TH, you always get raided. You can't farm nor produce enough resources to upgrade because there's always someone robbing you. Unless again, you don't have other things to do in life and just play and wait for your troops again to be trained. Another point, being sniped at TH 9 out by th 6, is better than being "ALWAYS" been raid by TH10 robbing you out of your resources. So we can't make progress. Even we farm and got lots of loots, someone will just robbed you and can't save enough for the upgrades. Kindly give consideration, and listen. Try to see the good and bad. Weigh if the good things is worth it for it's bad sides . It's up for the players to decide if the good and bad is balanced and fair.

Unable to make an upgrade by not playing hours and hours a day if not buying tons of gems VS easy search of match opponent.
May 1st, 2015
LisaDawn

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Originally Posted by itoslemma

Who is protecting you?? SuperCell is protecting you with the new matchmaking. TH10s will now only rarely see TH8s.

Define rarely? I'm TH8 and since the update I've been brutalized by th 10s 7 out of my last 10 attacks. I've gone from max gold and elixir to less than half trying to raid and keep my head above water. I have to next multiple times to find loot to cover a raiding army. I have zero chance at even getting 50% on a th 10. How is this fair??

This game quickly went from fun and challenging for me, to pointless and frustrating. It may be time to move on.
May 1st, 2015
itoslemma

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Originally Posted by IIZII

That's the good side. Have you consider the players experiences? Even you're in the right league for your TH, you always get raided. You can't farm nor produce enough resources to upgrade because there's always someone robbing you. Unless again, you don't have other things to do in life and just play and wait for your troops again to be trained. Another point, being sniped at TH 9 out by th 6, is better than being "ALWAYS" been raid by TH10 robbing you out of your resources. So we can't make progress. Even we farm and got lots of loots, someone will just robbed you and can't save enough for the upgrades. Kindly give consideration, and listen. Try to see the good and bad. Weigh if the good things is worth it for it's bad sides . It's up for the players to decide if the good and bad is balanced and fair.

Unable to make an upgrade by not playing hours and hours a day if not buying tons of gems VS easy search of match opponent.

Why don't you stop guessing at what is going to happen and actually get out there and experience it first. What you are saying is absolutely not what most people are experiencing. Leave your TH out, get in the right league, and farm yo! You will get sniped most of the time. You may get raided occasionally. If you are a premie, then more than occasionally, but then that's the cost of being a premie.

It is hard to give "consideration, and listen" when it is clear that you are just doing a lot of guessing. Go out there and see what happens. If you only see tiny trophies, you are too high. If you see huge trophies, you are too low. There are tens of thousands of bases similar to yours, plenty inactive or casual, to be found.
May 1st, 2015
itoslemma

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Originally Posted by LisaDawn

Define rarely? I'm TH8 and since the update I've been brutalized by th 10s 7 out of my last 10 attacks. I've gone from max gold and elixir to less than half trying to raid and keep my head above water. I have to next multiple times to find loot to cover a raiding army. I have zero chance at even getting 50% on a th 10. How is this fair??

This game quickly went from fun and challenging for me, to pointless and frustrating. It may be time to move on.

What is your trophy range, LisaD. Is your town hall out? Since you have been raided 10 times, you are active. As a TH8, you must only be showing 100k/100k if you pop bubbles. So your TH must be in?
May 1st, 2015
Sebjoker

New MM-Systen with Walls/ Heroes and Traps in CW - Experiences?

Does anybody has some experiences about the weight of heroes, traps and walls in cw mm-system?

Did you level up in cw-ranking cause of your walls? Do you have the feeling the new opponent is harder since the "air sweeper"-upgrade?

Thanks
May 1st, 2015
CoCGamerDexs

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Originally Posted by itoslemma

I was merely replying to someone who stated that the point of the game is to go up as far as you can. Let's not get carried away that you are providing a service to TH10s. In fact, it was quite the opposite. In the end, it is precisely the stopping of the sniping done by lower THs of higher THs that is going to solve a ton of farming problems.

You are right. There was no law and it was smart. But let's face it, a TH7 doesnt yet stand a chance vs a TH10, yet were allowed to greatly profit off of them by being allowed to snipe them. TH10s have no business feeding off lower THs, much like TH7s have no biz snacking on higher THs. Pretty simple.

You're the one who doesn't get it! Yes we don't stand against TH 10 that's pretty basic! But Why would a TH 10 put their THs outside? mainly because they need someone to snatch it for them giving them shield to protect their loots in exchange of a few trophies! TH sniping is not one sided relationship it's more on mutualistic! A TH 10 in need of a Shield will meet a TH 7 that's looking for trophies! Let's face it we won't be able to snipe them if they don't want to be snipe right??

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